Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2021 October 22

= October 22 =

What template or action causes this?
After taking along break from Wikipedia, I have forgot how to use a few tools and templates. I am currently trying to find out what tool or template causes something like :


 * Note: WikiProject Disambiguation has been notified of this discussion. blank (talk) 15:05, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

I copy and pasted that from a page that already had that notification. The question is what tool is used. Can someone please help and explain to me. Aceing_Winter_Snows_Harsh_Cold (talk) 03:50, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
 * The Notified template is probably what you're probably looking for, though I believe the specific example that you mentioned comes from the script User:TheTVExpert/rmCloser (used for requested move discussions). DanCherek (talk) 03:58, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Malicious Commons: deletion request has removed current logo from infobox
I received a notice from a user called Flalf that the coat of arms in the infobox at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholic_Archdiocese_of_Chicago is tagged for deletion, saying "Not own work as indicated, website logo ripped off archdiocese website. https://www.archchicago.org/ Flalf (talk) 02:53, 22 October 2021 (UTC)" This was not "ripped off" the archdiocese website. There are no SVG files on the archdiocese website. Wikipedia prompts me to respond at the entry, but the only way to do so is to edit the comment, so I added to it: "This is an .svg file which is the official coat of arms of the Archdiocese of Chicago, and needs to be restored to the page immediately." Meanwhile, someone (I presume this Flalf) removed the current coat of arms from the page and replaced it with one that is over 5 years old. This does not represent the Archdiocese of Chicago and is incorrect. The correct coat of arms file does exist but I cannot seem to restore it to the infobox. Please advise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WaterWish298 (talk • contribs) 05:33, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I see that you've now made the relevant edit to the infobox. --David Biddulph (talk) 08:07, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Confirmed User
I have been in Wikipedia for 4 days and edited more than 100 times so why I have not become Auto Confirmed User UserABCXYZ (talk) 05:37, 22 October 2021 (UTC)


 * @UserABCXYZ you have not quite yet been here for four days, the  group will be applied when four days exactly have passed since registration.  firefly  ( t · c ) 06:41, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
 * According to, your account was registered at "2021-10-18 10:15". Which means you should become autoconfirmed soon after 10:15 UTC today (2 hours from now, though it doesn't always happen immediately to the minute when 4 days has elapsed). Joseph2302 (talk) 08:19, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Flow Chemistry
Information about "Flow Chemistry" is like telling the world that Earth revolves and it is a new revelation.

Every time a liquid is charged to a vessel whether it is used in a batch or continuous process it has to flow. So "Flow" is not a new revelation.

For Batch process, liquids are charged to a reactor and stopped before the reaction is started. It is an intermittent flow of liquids i.e. stop and go. So it cannot be called "Flow Chemistry".

For continuous processes liquids flow continuously 24x7x52 hours per year.

These two definitions have existed since humans could think. Thus most of the information on "FLOW CHEMSITRY" Wikipedia is nothing new for chemists and chemical engineers.

It seems whosoever has added subject matter needs to think. 2+2=4 will remain a fact.

Not a single example of a commercial process that is being used is given.

There are only Batch Processes or Continuous Processes and THERE ARE NO FLOW CHEMISTRY PROCESSES.

Most information is relates to use of "micro reactors" that due to they being a huge investment have NO VALUE. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.100.214.110 (talk) 13:10, 22 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Did you have a question about editing Wikipedia? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:02, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Hello, IP user. If you have suggestions to make about an article, please make them on the talk page of that article; in this case Talk:Flow chemistry. Wikipedia is not a publisher of new ideas, but a summariser of what has already been published: some of that will appear obvious to some readers. Having said that, I'm inclined to agree that the article does not establish that "flow chemistry" is (yet) a topic which meets Wikipedia's criteria for WP:notability - i.e. that "flow chemistry" has specifically been written about much. But again, the place to discuss this is on the talk page; WT:WikiProject Chemistry would also be a good place. --ColinFine (talk) 14:06, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
 * The IP editor may like to read the 2020 review article "How to approach flow chemistry" from the RSC available as a .pdf here Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:14, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Ref Page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chhota_Shakeel
Greetings,I am new here and from Romania.I did some research online and I would like an editor to correct this article mentioned in the Subject-

I have sources below which back my claim

I am very bad at editing Wikipedia and it' my first time-I need help as I am just trying.If someone can help me out I would be grateful.

The subject is deceased when the page says he is alive. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Freenewsnetwork (talk • contribs) 14:26, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
 * The place for discussion of the article is Talk:Chhota Shakeel. You will see that there has been much discussion of rumours of his death.  --David Biddulph (talk) 13:46, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

A message of adding as 'not constructive'
Sir Edward Tierney was a slave owner. It appears adding this fact on Wikipedia is no constructive. Could you please explain why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.19.54.217 (talk) 13:28, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
 * The problem was that your edits were unsourced. See WP:Verifiability.  --David Biddulph (talk) 13:38, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
 * The text that you added appears to be a direct copy and paste of copyrighted text taken from the Admiral Sir Edmund Nagle page at the Centre for the Study of the Legacies of British Slavery website. See WP:COPYVIO.
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 13:43, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Hello, please provide a link to the edit concerned, there does not seem to be an edit in the history of the IP address used to post here and Wikipedia does not appear to have an article in the name Edward Tierney. There is an explanation in respect of edits to Edmund Nagle (that they are unsourced) at your talk page. Thank you. Eagleash (talk){ec}}
 * IP editor made at Edmund Nagle which was reverted by Editor Serols.  I can't speak to Edward Tierney.
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 14:26, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Hello 78.19.54.217, your edit Slave owner was without sources. Regards --Serols (talk) 14:39, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Can this be resolved by someone helping the new user add the information in line with Wikipedia's rules? It seems as though the source is reliable. I don't understand the topic well enough to do this well. Thanks, John Cummings (talk) 19:54, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Per the BOLD, revert, discuss cycle, the editor can discuss their suggestion on the article's talk page to come to a consensus with the reverter and other interested editors. GoingBatty (talk) 21:11, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Per the BOLD, revert, discuss cycle, the editor can discuss their suggestion on the article's talk page to come to a consensus with the reverter and other interested editors. GoingBatty (talk) 21:11, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

English language
What is the meaning of criticism — Preceding unsigned comment added by 105.112.66.243 (talk) 14:41, 22 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Have you looked at our article on Criticism? (It's not very good, but it gives some idea). Or if you just want a dictionary, see the entry in Wiktionary. --ColinFine (talk) 16:01, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

How to make a page
To whom it may concern,I'm wondering how I could make my own page,A response would be appreciated,Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brian j Willemse (talk • contribs) 19:08, 22 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi there, and welcome to Wikipedia! I see you've already created a user page, and suggest you first review Guidance for younger editors. Next, to learn how to edit the encyclopedia articles here at Wikipedia, I suggest you review Help:Introduction and run through the game at The Wikipedia Adventure. Creating a new article is one of the hardest things to do at Wikipedia, so I suggest lots of experience editing existing articles first. Creating an article about yourself is strongly discouraged: see Autobiography and An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. If you want to create an article that meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, called "notability", then you can follow the instructions at Help:Your first article. Hope this helps, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 19:38, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
 * thankyou for your response and advice highly appreciated.

Are all species considered notable?
Hi

Is there a specific rule for the notability of species on English Wikipedia? Are all species considered notable, if so where is this written?

If all species are considered notable what rules would apply in terms of the minimum length of the article and the number of references needed?

Thanks very much

. John Cummings (talk) 19:37, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi there! See WP:SPECIESOUTCOMES.  Hope this helps, and happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 19:40, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi thanks so much for this, very helpful, if there are any other relevant policies you're aware of please do let me know. Thanks again, John Cummings (talk) 19:44, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Depending on the species, the related WikiProject may have its own article guidelines. See WikiProject Tree of Life for links to many WikiProjects. GoingBatty (talk) 19:50, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much . John Cummings (talk) 19:53, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

stuff
is are brain big or small — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123456790abbi (talk • contribs) 19:57, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi there! "big" and "small" are relative terms.  You might find your answer at the Human brain article.  This Help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia, not for general knowledge questions. If you have any factual questions, please use the search box or post them on the Reference desk.  GoingBatty (talk) 21:14, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

How to remove hateful comments from talk page?
To whom it may concern, A user who goes by 2600:8801:8109:A700:E074:93A7:C26F:3532 (or at least has that IP address) left the following comment on my talk page: "Your a misinformation pos" and commented (Lies) in the section to describe changes. Can something be done about that? Could the comment be removed from my talk page or you cannot revert it? I feel like it's a hurtful/hateful comment that shouldn't be there. Please contact me with how you would proceed. Thank you in advance. Losipov (talk) 20:03, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
 * @Losipov: With the exception of a few things, anything can be removed from your own user talk page. The act of doing so is taken to mean that you have read and acknowledged the matter. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:07, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
 * - I've removed that comment and edit summary from your history under WP:RD3. As that was the IPs only edit to Wikipedia, I can't justify any further action against the IP, such as a short block. Mjroots (talk) 08:31, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

Have I been booted off Wiki I am sure I used to have a page?!
Hello! I am pretty sure I used to have a Wikipedia page and it has been deleted? For what reason would I have been got rid of do you think? I am not trying to be obnoxious, I am just trying to relaunch my career in my chosen field and it would help if I was able to have my page back with who I have worked for. I don't want anything fancy or dramatic just a list of people that I have written for. Help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:8000:FE02:83C6:BC90:FCEB:45C9:A325 (talk) 21:09, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi there! If you tell us the name of the article (or draft or user page), we would be able to tell you if it existed and if it was deleted and why.  In general, it could have been a copyright issue or not being neutral or not meeting Wikipedia's notability requirements.  GoingBatty (talk) 21:18, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi Going Batty (I have gone batty) I tried to reply I am not sure if it worked though. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:8000:FE02:83C6:BC90:FCEB:45C9:A325 (talk) 21:37, 22 October 2021 (UTC) Ok me again. I think out of all those reasons you gave it must be I don't meet Wiki's notability requirements. Cringe. Please could you let me know? It is Emma Parker Bowles 2603:8000:FE02:83C6:BC90:FCEB:45C9:A325 (talk) 21:44, 22 October 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:8000:FE02:83C6:BC90:FCEB:45C9:A325 (talk) 21:39, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
 * The article about you was deleted after a discussion here Articles for deletion/Emma Parker Bowles, you were not considered notable in Wikipedia's terms. Theroadislong (talk) 21:49, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Just had a read on the discussion - lol. A bit harsh. I absolutely don't think I should have had a page for any tenuous links to the RF BUT in my defence I was the UK's top female motoring journalist for many years where i kicked ass in a male dominated sphere.(Vicky Butler Henderson was the Queen of the Screen I just wrote a lot but we were both really successful.) I had a weekly motoring column in the Sun newspaper for years, a motoring column in a women's lifestyle magazine for 8 years and I wrote for Top Gear magazine, Sunday Times, Robb Report etc etc. And did a motoring show called Vroom Vroom. 2603:8000:FE02:83C6:BC90:FCEB:45C9:A325 (talk) 22:07, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

And this nugget from that discussion is grossly unfair, untrue and unkind. "I get the feeling it was merely paraphrasing press releases for those companies as a 'hey it's that person' type of personality, and hardly any kind of investigative journalism" You don't keep a weekly motoring column on the Sun newspaper by paraphrasing press releases trust me. But glad to see that is where my (modest) Wiki donations went to - people being mean!!! 2603:8000:FE02:83C6:BC90:FCEB:45C9:A325 (talk) 22:11, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi Emma, I've just read Articles for deletion/Emma Parker Bowles and I'm fairly embarrassed that some editors decided to make comments like that. You may not meet our notability requirements, but that's no excuse for rudeness. I'm very sorry. 22:24, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, I appreciate that. It was disappointing because it was not what I imagined the Wiki community to be all about. But no hard feelings. One love! 2603:8000:FE02:83C6:BC90:FCEB:45C9:A325 (talk) 22:50, 22 October 2021 (UTC)


 * In addition, it's worth noting that Wikipedia has quite specific notability guidelines which might not exactly correspond to common understandings of notability. Not having an article about yourself does not mean that you are not notable in your field, and if you are relaunching your career I would suggest that it would be far more useful to have your own website where you can control all the content, rather than relying on a Wikipedia article. And the deletion discussion unfortunately might be an example of why An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. ClaudineChionh (talk) 23:53, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Claudine for your sage advice and for your gracious comments. Much appreciated. 2603:8000:FE02:83C6:BC90:FCEB:45C9:A325 (talk) 00:31, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I was the UK's top female motoring journalist for many years where i kicked ass in a male dominated sphere. (...) I [wrote some columns for a long time] and did a motoring show called Vroom Vroom. Writing articles is not what gets you on Wikipedia, but the "top female motoring journalist in a male dominated sphere" might have been written about, which would warrant a page. Have you got any sources to that effect? I tried searching but there is too much royal family stuff and it’s hard to exclude all keywords. Tigraan Click here for my talk page ("private" contact) 12:51, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

How do I properly point a citation to a specific location in a book
How do I cite a location in a book without page numbers that is in the style of an encyclopedia? The book in question is



The book is structured like an encyclopedia with different entries under headings, but without page numbers. I don't think these entries are really "chapters". Does cite book have a parameter that can be used in such case, i.e., that I can use to point to one of the orange "headings" in the book? Would the "chapter" parameter be the correct parameter to use here and, if not, which parameter of the template should I use? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 21:24, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
 * According to the the look-inside view at Amazon, the print version of encyclopedia has page numbers. Were I citing the print version I would write:
 * For the kindle version:
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 22:09, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
 * From the title index in the sample on Amazon I could deduce that the page number I am looking for is 859, so I added the corresponding parameter with this value to the citation in question. Thanks for the help. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 09:23, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 22:09, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
 * From the title index in the sample on Amazon I could deduce that the page number I am looking for is 859, so I added the corresponding parameter with this value to the citation in question. Thanks for the help. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 09:23, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 22:09, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
 * From the title index in the sample on Amazon I could deduce that the page number I am looking for is 859, so I added the corresponding parameter with this value to the citation in question. Thanks for the help. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 09:23, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

Side-channel attack

 * Header inserted by ColinFine (talk) 08:54, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Side-channel_attack — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.62.246.200 (talk) 22:29, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Hello? Have you got a question about our article Side-channel attack? --ColinFine (talk) 08:54, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

How to Create A Wikipedia Page
Please help me figure out how exactly(on the page) to upload or make a wikipedia page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Indomitable1 (talk • contribs) 23:37, 22 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Take a look at WP:FIRST Girth Summit  (blether)  23:38, 22 October 2021 (UTC)


 * But please be aware,, that this question is a litte like "Please help me figure out how exactly to build a house". The best answer is "Start by learning the building trade". Spend at least a few months learning how Wikipedia works, by improving some of our six million existing articles before you even think of doing this. You are likely to have a much less frustrating time. --ColinFine (talk) 08:58, 23 October 2021 (UTC)