Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2021 September 7

= September 7 =

Trying to update my own information
Good morning,

I am trying to update the information which someone has placed on Wikipedia about me, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lidia_Morawska, but every time I try to submit it, you don't seem to approve of it. The information here is out of date and and I'm trying to update the information which is also not necessarily correct about me. It seems strange to me that people who don't know me can write this about me and you publish it, but you won't let me correct my own information?

How can we resolve this?

Many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by LidiaMorawska (talk • contribs)
 * Hello, please read WP:COI before editing anything about yourself. I recommend that you submit an edit request and providing a source to get your information corrected. Happy editing (or lack thereof on your page),  Heart  (talk) 02:22, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * @LidiaMorawska: While you are not forbidden from doing so, you are strongly discouraged from editing an article about yourself. You may want to proceed through Wikipedia's edit requests system; mention exactly what in the article needs changing, what it should be changed to, and provide a reliable source to back up your claim. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:30, 7 September 2021 (UTC)


 * You are welcome to point out factual errors and we will correct them in short time. However, you are not welcome to edit your own biographies to add terms such as She has conducted ground-breaking research in this field since 1991. This is peacock wording and will not be found in any proper article. Tigraan Click here for my talk page ("private" contact) 09:28, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

How could I see statistics on the number of 'edit by mobile?'
Hello. I suddenly wondered how many people have contributed wikipedia by phone, and how many edits have been did by mobile. However, I could not search their data at wikistats; unfortunately, there is just stats on "view by PC of Mobile". Then, how could I see this type of stats? Where could I search the number and type of wikipedia edits by phone? Reiro (talk) 06:13, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * This is a good question. I'm also wondering if there is a statistic measuring how many editors contribute via mobile. –– FormalDude  talk  08:39, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Isn't that stats served anywhere? Reiro (talk) 10:36, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * , may know.  S Philbrick  (Talk)  12:05, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * and, it has been several years since I looked into that issue. I do 99% of my editing using an Android smart phone logged in on the desktop site. I have been told that there is no way for anyone else to determine that my edits were made from a phone. The real expert on the technical aspects of various types of mobile editing is and there is ongoing discussion about mobile editing problems at Village pump (WMF). Cullen328   Let's discuss it  14:41, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * OK. Thank you so much. Reiro (talk) 05:59, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Umbrello
I am wanting to write a brief article on Umbrello, an architectural feature. However, Umbrello is currently a redirect to KDE Applications. They have obviously used the term as the name for a software application. Am I ok just to overwrite the redirect? I've done this before, where, for example, X House in Y town was a redirect to Y town, as we didn't have an article on the individual building. However, I've not done this where the redirect points to something else entirely. As an aside, we do have a Wiktionary entry,. KJP1 (talk) 08:27, 7 September 2021 (UTC)


 * You would want to either take the redirect to WP:RFD if you think it warrants discussion, or, if you think one is obviously more notable than the other, you can keep that one and add a disambiguation. In this case, if you wanted the article to be under Umbrello, you could overwrite the redirect, and add the tophat Not to be confused with Umbrello (software). If you wanted the redirect to stay under Umbrello, you could create your article under something like Umbrello (architecture). –– FormalDude   talk  08:32, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * - many thanks, very helpful. I shall consider both of those options. I doubt the issue is such that an RFD would be appropriate. KJP1 (talk) 10:41, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Translation from Korean
Hello I'm from korea. Can you tell me a  user who can translate Korean Please ping me please ShineyMoon (talk) 08:43, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Listed at Category:Translators ko-en. --David Biddulph (talk) 08:51, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * You can also try asking at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Korea. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:43, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Question regarding COI when the author/editor concerned has a deleted account
Hello, I have been helping to edit Moses Hacmon. Since this article was created in 2016, it shows a very obvious appearance of being either self-authored or authored by someone who has a close relationship with the subject. The user in question is [] Much of the article was and still is formatted like a resume, with sections for Exhibits, Performances, Lectures (now removed on the decision of another editor) and Accomplishments (also removed). The former Accomplishments section listed personal achievements not conventionally applicatory on WP, like being on the Dean's List and earning a scholarship. In addition, all of the items listed under Exhibits, Performances, and Lectures provided no sources, with the exception of a couple that were a link to Moses' personal youtube page. The Lectures section was a complete duplication of the Exhibits/Performance Section. Though the article has improved incrementally with the help of editors, it still fundamentally problematic, as all the material was written by the first author who seems to have an obvious connection with the subject, if they are not the subject themselves. This article would need drastic changes in order to be non-biased.

I was going to create a new discussion on the COI noticeboard and tag the offending editor, user Anotheraccount, but their account is now deleted. I am wondering what course of action can be taken in these circumstances. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Verbotenvampire (talk • contribs) 10:01, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * They aren't deleted, they simply stopped editing. You would be better placed to either edit the page in question and fix issues, comment on the talk page about what errors you've found, or tag the article for eventual cleanup. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:05, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Draft review
Hi, I uploaded a contribution in Draft space two months ago titled "Journal of Language and Law", how would I be able to submit it for a review? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Júlia Rocosa (talk • contribs)
 * Your draft lacks the information required to submit it for a review, I will add it shortly. Before you submit it, I might work on properly formatting the citations, please see WP:REFB for information on writing citations. 331dot (talk) 11:06, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * If you are associated with the journal in some way, please review conflict of interest for information on formal disclosures you may need to make. 331dot (talk) 11:07, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Help to log in without authentication device
I do not have access to authentication device, because I lost my phone; how can i log in to my wikipedia account without that? I had to creat a new account to ask this question, i hope someone would be able help. Thank you:) --Wadan21 (talk) 11:23, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * What is the username? User:Wadan21 says you are Khan but there is no User:Khan at the English Wikipedia. Special:CentralAuth/Khan shows an account which edited the Kazakh WIkipedia over 10 years ago. Most accounts only require a username and password. If the account has stored an email adress then you can use Special:PasswordReset. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:35, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

my username is User:Af420, and i cannot log inn to my account by using user credentials, 'cause every time i do that, it asks me for a Token, that is only possible if i have my stolen so that i can get access to authentication device on that phone. So my Gmail, username and password is not enough. --Wadan21 (talk) 14:08, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * The information on two factor authentication is at Meta:Help:Two-factor authentication. The email address to contact appears to be ca@wikimedia.org according to that page- they look like they're able to remove the two factor authentication, which will let you login. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:15, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I see you are an administrator at the Pashto Wikipedia. That explains why you have been able to enable two-factor authentication. It's not available to regular editors unless they request to be part of a test. Have you stored the scratch codes mentioned at Help:Two-factor authentication? PrimeHunter (talk) 19:00, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

vandalization of my page
Hi,

A year or more ago someone vandalized the Robert Frodeman page. Some type of lock was put on it. Now someone wrote me to tell me that 'interdisciplinarity' was replaced with 'astrology'. I fixed it last night. So, 2 questions:

1. can the page be locked or monitored? 2. can we tell who did the vandalizing?

Robert Frodeman — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frodeman (talk • contribs)
 * Robert Frodeman was semi-protected for a month in 2019 when there was persistent vandalism. The astrology vandalism was made in July 2021. The IP address geolocates to Austin, Texas. Special:Contributions/2603:8080:1001:6100:704E:9252:A3B6:EB9E shows no other edits. It's unfortunate the vandalism was not detected and reverted but it generally takes more before we protect an article. I have placed the article on my watchlist but I have thousands of pages there and cannot promise to spot vandalism. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:40, 7 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi there! Requests for page protection is where someone can request that the article be protected. There are several levels of protection - see Protection policy. Each editor chooses which articles they choose to monitor. You can see who made which changes by clicking the "View history" link at the top of the article. In this case, although we can see the vandalism was made in, we cannot tie the IP address to a specific person.
 * Because you have a conflict of interest, you should not be editing the Robert Frodeman article directly (except to revert obvious vandalism) or adding your book to other articles such as Transhumanism. Instead, you can submit suggestions on the article's talk page with the request edit template and a reliable source. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 13:43, 7 September 2021 (UTC)


 * It would also be wonderful if you disclosed your conflict of interest on your user page - you can use UserboxCOI to do so, or just write a sentence or two. Thanks!  GoingBatty (talk) 13:48, 7 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Also, please don't think of Robert Frodeman as "my page", but as an encyclopedia article about you - see WP:OWN. GoingBatty (talk) 14:03, 7 September 2021 (UTC)


 * We are all unpaid volunteers. If you wish to monitor the page, feel free to do so. Use the "watchlist" features to place this article on your watchlist, and even to to get a notifications when any change is made. -Arch dude (talk) 15:23, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

How should I submit an article for the "help out" page
The article for Groan Tubes has the first source broken. How can I help show it on the Help Out section? WashyLieshy (talk) 12:53, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi there! I confirmed that the first reference was broken, and could not find a new page on the same web site, so I added an archived URL to the reference.  You could have called attention to the broken source by adding dead link to the reference.  What is the "Help Out section" you're referring to?  Thanks, and happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 13:56, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I forgot to specify that I was referring to the Help Out page in the community portal. Thank you! WashyLieshy (talk) 14:05, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

A reason for delete
Nice day. Please, can you help me. I've written an article about one not so big company. It made a little revolution in their field, considered to mud events. After publishing it was delete for "promotion". After I've seen a message to delete I've edited this page, delete everything seems to be promotional and left a teg "advert" to ask everyone help me to improve this article. Also I've written message to other editors to help me to improve this article and have asked them not to delete it. Also I've checked all the page to make it maximally neutral. After a couple of hours it was deleted. That's this page: Draft:Finntrail. Please help me to improve it to be published. Thanks for your attention.

Greetings, Michael tok (talk) 14:23, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi there! It seems that the draft has been deleted, so we cannot help improve it.  I suggest you spend some time improving other articles before trying to create a new article.  If you have not done so already, I also suggest reading Help:Your first article.  Happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 16:15, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * The second deleted version was still hopelessly promotional and advertising-like. It could not be salvaged. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  16:22, 7 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Please, can you tell me what can I make to improve it. I've obeyed all the rules from Help:Your first article. I've written just about the history and products, learned from magazines, not tabloids. But it's still promotional...??

Thanks for your answer. Michael tok (talk) 16:41, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * @Michael tok: It's possible that your words were puffery. If you work in sales or PR, this is a place where you shouldn't utilise any ad copy skills you may have. The Manual of Style has a section on words that trigger users' ad sense, so make sure you use those with extreme caution (if you must use them). It should portray the content from a neutral point of view. Don't make it exciting or lead the reader to anticipate; state the facts as dry and bland as they are from reliable sources. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:41, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

2022 Major League Baseball season article
What No Article Yet there suppose to have team articles for the 2022 season and there is only 3 teams there needs to be more than that. But when will it be ready. 98.186.54.177 (talk) 14:58, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi there! I see you are working on Draft:2022 Major League Baseball season, which still has some sections with no references.  Articles for each team will be ready when volunteer editors choose to create them - there is no deadline.  GoingBatty (talk) 16:19, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Receiving Notifications when my page is edited without permission.
I happened to go look at "my" page - Suede (singer), and see that it was updated recently without my knowledge - written well, thank you, but also adding back the rest of my birth name (Suede is my middle name, not a stage name) after I've removed it several times -- and which I try to keep at least somewhat private, due to inappropriate fans, hate mail from the British band London Suede's fans (yes, even 28 yrs after a settled lawsuit against Sony Corp) and even bona-fide stalkers, causing me to hire security.

1) I prefer to not disclose my birth name. Yes, it's findable if one dig's hard enough but I prefer not making it readily available on sites like Wiki, please.

2) How can I be notified when an edit is made to my page so that I can track it and make any changes needed?

Thank you. Suede Suedewave (talk) 17:34, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * @Suedewave: Before going any further, please redact your listing them as Suede anywhere on your site is a violation of a settled lawsuit, as that is a legal threat which will lead to your account being indefinitely blocked. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:43, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm not certain it is a legal threat if there is indeed a lawsuit that requires Wikipedia to display or not display certain content. I'm not certain how such a lawsuit would apply to Wikipedia if Wikipedia is not a party to it, but.... 331dot (talk) 17:48, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * @331dot: The way I read it is that it's a settled lawsuit against Sony Corp, not Wikipedia; I'm not aware of any ruling that extends to Wikipedia itself. Checking this article it seems that what happened is that the band was ordered by the judge to change their name. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:23, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * (ec) First, it's not "your page", but an article about you. You cannot grant or deny permission to edit it, as it belongs to Wikipedia.  You can monitor the article by additing it to your watchlist; on a computer, click the white star at the top, this will turn it blue and add it to your watchlist, where the most recent changes to it will appear.
 * If your birth name is not widely and publicly available, it doesn't have to be in the article about you. You may wish to make that clear on the article talk page(Talk:Suede (singer)) You may also wish to confirm your identity by sending an email to our volunteer response team at [mailto:info-en@wikimedia.org info-en@wikimedia.org] so we know you aren't impersonating you.
 * If the terms of a lawsuit require Wikipedia to display or not display certain content, you will need to communicate that to the Wikimedia Foundation's legal department, please do so by contacting the Wikimedia Foundation. 331dot (talk) 17:47, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Hello @Suedewave, Wikipedia takes the privacy concerns of living persons very seriously, but other than that, cares least what the subjects think about an article about themselves, since they're not independent. That said, I had a look at it, and marked the article for deletion, which would address the privacy concerns which you can find here: Articles for deletion/Suede (singer). Your implication that Wikipedia is violating the law, by using a COMMONNAME can be construed as a legal threat. Please do not that. Best ~ Shushugah (he/him • talk) 17:50, 7 September 2021 (UTC)


 * There is no such thing like 'permission to edit' on Wikipedia. One of basic rules here is:
 * Wikipedia is free content that anyone can use, edit, and distribute
 * - see Five Pillars WP:5P3.
 * You can watch a page (H:W) and get notified when someone changes it, but you have no control over the contents other users add. Everyone can edit. --CiaPan (talk) 09:22, 8 September 2021 (UTC)


 * You are not any kind of authority over the article Suede (singer) just because you are Suede. Editors don't need your permission to edit the article. Still, if your birth name really is confidential information and not published in reliable sources, then it should not be disclosed in the article. The article can be edited to remove the information about your birthdate. But note that the reason to remove that information is that your birth name is not published in reliable sources, not because you tell us to. J I P  &#124; Talk 21:45, 8 September 2021 (UTC)


 * "your listing them as Suede anywhere on your site is a violation of a settled lawsuit" As far as I know, Suede (band) was only forced to change their name in the USA. They can still be called Suede everywhere else, so this claim was wrong. Wikipedia is not a USA-only website. J I P  &#124; Talk 10:38, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Changing display title of page
Hey there!

I’m trying to stylize my user page. I can’t seem to get the DISPLAYTITLE magic word working. My input is

which seems to have no effect on the title. The hidden category suggests that my input is bad, but I don’t see where.

Thanks! 𝙰𝙶𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚝𝚄𝚜𝚎𝚛𝚗𝚊𝚖𝚎𝙲𝚑𝚘𝚒𝚌𝚎 (ramble) 19:03, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * The DISPLAYTITLE magic word requires that the displayed title be identical to the actual title after stripping all formatting. The DISPLAYTITLE you attempted to use is not identical to the actual title, because it uses Mathematical Alphanumeric Symbols instead of ASCII letters. * Pppery * it has begun... 19:12, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Uploading collegiate logo under free use policy
Hi all, relatively new to Wikipedia so still trying to understand the requirements for images and media usage so bear with me. I am trying to upload the collegiate logo to be used at the bottom of the Infobox at the top of the article as can be seen on many college wikipedia articles. Not sure how to go about this since I am using it under fair use as it is a copyrighted logo. Since it is copyrighted I am pretty sure I cannot upload it to the commons but I cannot for the life of me figure out how other contributors have managed to upload other collegiate logos to be used in the infobox. I hope my question is clear, advice is much appreciated! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zoz0716 (talk • contribs) 20:38, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * File Upload Wizard is probably what you are looking for. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 20:41, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * @Zoz0716 What Lee suggested is right. It will be a file uploaded to Wikipedia under Non-free content criteria for Logos. Since it is uploaded to English Wikipedia, it cannot be used by other Wiki projects. ~ Shushugah (he/him • talk) 13:46, 10 September 2021 (UTC)