Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2022 April 1

= April 1 =

"Error: Invalid time" for the Merge-from template
Hello. At Talk:Abibon "Error: Invalid time" is displayed, and I have no idea how to fix if. Could someone help? Thanks in advance. Veverve (talk) 05:24, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * It might be related to what's being discussed Template talk:Merged-from. Perhaps can help sort this out? -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:46, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I just fixed it by removing the left-to-right mark. Still not done is upgrading Merged-from to just ignore such marks. In lieu of that, I periodically work to clear pages from Category:Pages with parser function time errors. – wbm1058 (talk) 10:24, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

How to take credit for a couple of edits?
I made two seperate edits but forgot to create a account to do so. I also want to undo one edit and/or merge those two edits without undoing other contributors' edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CanTheChatter (talk • contribs) 06:26, 1 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Once an edit it saved, it cannot be changed as this would mess up the edit history. Any changes that you want to make will have to be done manually.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 06:32, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Also, the credits: it just shows my ip address. How to take credit? CanTheChatter (talk) 07:02, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * The IP address takes "credit". Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 07:03, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Normally there is no keeping track of credit for edits. There are some that keep track of the total number of edits, but not credit in the sense of course credit. There are some schools that assign some work for class credit, and in that case one might want to be sure to get the appropriate name in the edit summary. Some edits have an undo link, which generates a new edit with the opposite change. With a little work, you can undo (which will have your name on the edit summary) and then redo the edit, again with your name on it. But normally one just makes more edits that need to be made. Gah4 (talk) 07:15, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * The notion of "taking credit" for edits that you made while logged out is very much at odds with the Wikipedia ethos. No experienced, productive editor ever says "editor A gets credit for those edits". The standard is whether or not a specific editor is improving the encyclopedia or not. Who wants credit for mediocre or bad edits, after all? Cullen328 (talk) 07:25, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Normally there is no keeping track of credit for edits. There are some that keep track of the total number of edits, but not credit in the sense of course credit. There are some schools that assign some work for class credit, and in that case one might want to be sure to get the appropriate name in the edit summary. Some edits have an undo link, which generates a new edit with the opposite change. With a little work, you can undo (which will have your name on the edit summary) and then redo the edit, again with your name on it. But normally one just makes more edits that need to be made. Gah4 (talk) 07:15, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * The notion of "taking credit" for edits that you made while logged out is very much at odds with the Wikipedia ethos. No experienced, productive editor ever says "editor A gets credit for those edits". The standard is whether or not a specific editor is improving the encyclopedia or not. Who wants credit for mediocre or bad edits, after all? Cullen328 (talk) 07:25, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Deleted page or just redirected?
Hi,

I'm looking for a page I created years ago. The name is Raju Menon. It's not there anymore and when I tried to check the deleted log there's no data as well. Can you please help me to find where that page now and what happened? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Morisonmenon (talk • contribs) 10:04, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * According to your deleted contributions(the log of which you can view at ) it was deleted per Articles for deletion/Raju Menon (2nd nomination). 331dot (talk) 10:06, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * This is a WP:CORPNAME account, and should have been blocked as a spamusername a decade ago. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  12:56, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Special:DeletedContributions only works if you have admin rights. If you don't, you cannot access deleted revisions, even if it are your own (and a proposal to change that wouldn't get any consensus) Victor Schmidt (talk) 07:41, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Oops Guess I've done this too long. :) Thank you 331dot (talk) 10:17, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

afds on april fools
hi, i would like to make a humorous afd for today, but cant figure out how to add a new afd. could i get some advice? -a really self-degrading name(speak of the devil)- 12:58, 1 April 2022 (UTC)


 * See Rules for Fools. Nominating an article for deletion as a joke is likely to be seen as disruptive. AndyTheGrump (talk) 13:11, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * In particular, All jokes and pranks must be kept out of the "article", "help", "talk", and "help talk" namespaces. If you list something for AFD, then the article will get tagged by a bot, which is disruption to article space. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:14, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Actually, there is a way to avoid doing so. You have to remove the text  which will prevent the bot from adding the banner to mainspace. You also can't use Twinkle to do so since it will automatically add the templates needed. ― Wolf BlazeAwooBlaze Wolf#6545 15:39, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Image in infobox
So I do not understand how to put it in, it just comes out as a file name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Itsernedj (talk • contribs) 13:18, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * New users cannot upload images, you must be "autoconfirmed" meaning your account must be four days old with 10 edits or more. You are short on both counts.  If you cannot wait, you may visit WP:FFU to work with others on uploading your image. 331dot (talk) 13:25, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Also note that images are not necessary for the draft approval process. Certain images also cannot be in drafts period. 331dot (talk) 13:26, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi Itsernedj! If you're using Template:Infobox person, you'll want to insert the image in the "image=" parameter. For example, if you wanted to add the image currently in your draft, you'd add the line somewhere in your infobox template. Firefangledfeathers (talk | contribs) 13:29, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Mouseover link to show preview of Wikimedia image?
Mousing over a media:image_filename.ext link yields a popup showing "image filename.ext", but is there any way to create an Wikimedia image link with a mouseover that will show a thumbnail of the image itself, as happens with links to Wikipedia articles? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pontchardon (talk • contribs) 13:56, 1 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Please don't ask the same question in more than one place. You asked this at the Teahouse fourteen hours earlier. Speaking for myself, I didn't answer it because I have no idea what you are talking about. What's a "media:image_filename.ext link"? Where have you seen one? What are you looking at at the time? I don't know if you're talking about Wikipedia or something else, or whether you're talking about a browser or an app.
 * Actually, having berated you for posting in more than one place, I am going to suggest you try somewhere else: questions about the technical aspects of Wikipedia (assuming that's what your question is about) are more likely to get answered at WP:VPT. ColinFine (talk) 14:24, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * When you mouseover this example link: [[Media:Sampler_-_Google_Art_Project_(4091397).jpg|Example]], you get a popup of the file name. Is there any way to set up a link to an image that shows a preview of the image when moused over? Or should I ask at a third location as you suggested. Pontchardon (talk) 15:16, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Pontchardon, now I understand what you're talking about. If you use a Wikilink (with a leading :, so that it displays the link rather than the image, so  displays as File:Sampler - Google Art Project (4091397).jpg. Is that what you want, or is there a reason why you have to use an external link (URL) for it? (The hover shows a load of file-description source too, but it does show the thumbnail.) ColinFine (talk) 17:03, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Only with Preferences→Gadgets→Browsing→Navigation Popups...
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 17:57, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you, ColinFine, for your patience. Wikipedia's help information pages are usually so, er, helpful that I'm not used to asking for more. I should have been more fulsome in my original question. I had started out with the Pontchardon (talk) 21:55, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry if I got a bit snappy, Pontchardon. As I said above, for questions about the user interface (as opposed to editing) WP:VPT is a better place to ask. ColinFine (talk) 09:37, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Thumbnails not showing up in Firefox
Hello!

Yesterday, all of a sudden, Firefox stopped displaying thumbnails in WP articles. It works fine on other computers using FF (current version: 98.0.2) and it works fine on this one using Chrome.

I've never seen this before. It happens whether I'm logged in or not.

Is this issue one with which you are familiar, and if so, how do I fix it? Thank you! --Neopeius (talk) 14:35, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * When you view a Wikipedia article, most of the images are downloaded from a domain named "upload.wikimedia.org". Is it possible that you've accidentally asked Firefox, or an adblocker extension, to block images from that domain? -- John of Reading (talk) 15:47, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't think that's the case. If I click on the thumbnail, it opens the image page just fine, and if I change the code so there's no "thumb" in the code, it displays fine, too. It's just pictures when thumbnailed on a page. I just whitelisted upload.wikimedia.org, and it didn't do anything. --Neopeius (talk) 16:47, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Do you see an image above with "This is just an example"? It's shown at original size and not as a thumbnail but it's still hosted at upload.wikimedia.org. Do you see logos with "a WIKIMEDIA project" and "Powered by MediaWiki" a the lower right of pages? They are hosted here at en.wikipedia.org. See https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/fix-problems-images-not-show for general Firefox help. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:49, 1 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Sorry for the delay! Yes to both. And that domain is specifically whitelisted. --Neopeius (talk) 00:05, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

Where do I find pages that NEED edits?
Like the title, where do I find them? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bradley Atchley (talk • contribs) 15:09, 1 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi Bradley Atchley! You might get some ideas at Task Center. I see that some of your first edits have improved links in articles. I enjoy doing that as well, and can recommend joining the neverending work laid out at Disambiguation pages with links. Firefangledfeathers (talk | contribs) 15:16, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * @Bradley Atchley If you like research, WikiProject Unreferenced articles would love to have you! ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 15:21, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Change Page Title of my organization
Hello,

I'm trying to move a page from The Urban School of San Francisco to Urban School of San Francisco (no "The"). The articles I keep reading keep spinning me in circles. What I gather is that the page is protected. Can you help me move the page?

Urban School (talk) 18:38, 1 April 2022 (UTC)


 * All set, I moved it. Also, if you plan on sticking around you'll probably want to have your account renamed so you're not blocked as a WP:ROLEACCOUNT. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:50, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Also, you should not be editing an article with which you have a declared WP:COI. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:11, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Buggy filters
I'm a WP:RCP, and I use the filter which sorts out possibly problematic edits and only shows them. However, sometimes, when I load recent changes, I see lots of edits that clearly AREN'T problematic (which is why I hate seeing "Dm" before an edit so much). When I check the filter menu to try and reactivate it, the filter's just gone. Literally. Gone. Not even if I search for it will it show. And the strangest thing is that it only happens to this filter and the bad faith filter. Why is this?  InterstateFive  (talk) - just another roadgeek 21:43, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Flag of Czechoslovakia
The flag of Czechoslovakia is a rectangle, divided into a blue triangle and red and white trapezia. But if you hover over that link, you see that the blue triangle has become a pentagon. Is this a bug? or just an expected consequence of how hover links work? Maproom (talk) 21:57, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * It's an expected consequence. The feature often removes the top and bottom (like here) or left and right of an image to get a wanted height-width ratio. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:51, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you, . That makes sense. Next question: if I hover over the link, and then move the cursor a bit to the left or right so that it's still over the hover text, I see a tiny triangle of blue protruding from the top side of the rectangle where the cursor used to be. It's nothing special about the Czechoslovak flag, France does it too. The hover text has to be in the top half of the browser window for this to happen. Maproom (talk) 08:01, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * There should always be a protuding triangle pointing to the link around the place you first activated the feature. Sometimes your cursor covers the triangle. The triangle uses the background color of the adjacent part of the hover box, e.g. a blue part of a flag. It's white like text background when there is text and not an image in that part of the hover box. To me in Firefox and Vector, the white triangle is quite different from the normal background on wiki pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:52, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you again, . (For the Czech flag, the edge of the protruding triangle just happens to line up with the edge of the triangle in the flag, which added to my confusion.) Maproom (talk) 17:11, 2 April 2022 (UTC)