Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2022 April 17

= April 17 =

Question
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Miss_Teen_Universe

How does this article appear on Wikipedia officially urbanization that is now standing out and appearing in international media — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jfinfluencer (talk • contribs) 04:28, 17 April 2022 (UTC)


 * The article (currently a draft) won't 'appear on Wikipedia officially' at all. It contains bogus references, and does absolutely nothing to demonstrate that the subject meets Notability requirements. Or that the subject (a supposed beauty pageant) even exists. The only reference that even purports to refer to the subject is to a 2020 press release from the supposed organisers which supports none of the content, and the link to the website this pageant is alleged to be streamed on is dead (even after correcting the typo). AndyTheGrump (talk) 04:43, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
 * @ notice that the editor's username contains "influencer". 73.127.147.187 (talk) 07:01, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
 * It does. And the photo of "Miss teen universe crown" in the infobox is one of a series of images uploaded to Commons by a 'User:Miss teen universe corp" in 2020. Whether the 'influencer' has any connection with the 'corp', or indeed whether either have any connection with real 'Miss Teen Universe' pageants that may possibly have taken place is however rather irrelevant, since the draft contains absolutely nothing to support its inclusion on Wikipedia. If and when actual citations to valid third-party sources even approximating to evidence of notability are produced, the question of conflict of interest/paid editing may well need discussing, but for now all we have is an unverified claim that a 'pageant' occurring in an unspecified place is being streamed on unidentified media at an unspecified time. If this is an attempt at promotion, it is an exceptionally inept one. AndyTheGrump (talk) 12:36, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
 * @AndyTheGrump, "a pageant occurring in an unspecified place is being streamed on unidentified media at an unspecified time"... well put! I would watch it, if I only knew when and where and how... 73.127.147.187 (talk) 04:08, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

A page has been redirected and is incorrect
Our condominium building is one of the oldest and most famous in the Chicago skyline. "Outer Drive East" It is in the New Eastside of Chicago. The page was redirected to the building page being under the address and not the building name. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/400_East_Randolph 400 E Randolph is the address. I have many documents including the articles of incorporation and all the condo declaration docs which state that this is the Outer Drive East Condominium building. The association's name is the 400 Condominium Association. The association governs the Outer Drive East Condominium building. There is nothing we have ever seen calling our building the 400 E Randolph building.

Can we please undirect it and have all of our wonderful information restored as "Outer Drive East"??? In the New Eastside - there is a development of Lakeshore East. That development is in the New Eastside neighborhood and Outer Drive East was the first building in the New Eastside. This is important because when it was built in 1963 - it was the only building built east of the outer drive (East of Lakeshore Drive) There is a long rich history of Outer Drive East. We were updated on all the pages we use to be on now as an address... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakeshore_East

Please Help. 05:28, 17 April 2022 (UTC)05:28, 17 April 2022 (UTC) (am I to post my name or will admins know?)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by TicklingTiger (talk • contribs)
 * Hi there! I suggest you post your suggestion on the article's talk page: Talk:400 East Randolph.  Happy editing!    GoingBatty (talk) 06:38, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
 * "Outer Drive East" is indeed the name preferred by the only source cited., you could strengthen your case by finding and adding a couple more references to the article. Maproom (talk) 07:45, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Circoncision des femmes
Causes conséquences ans solutions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.138.104.100 (talk) 07:54, 17 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Are you looking for information about Female genital mutilation? Shantavira|feed me 08:46, 17 April 2022 (UTC)


 * In French here.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 09:38, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Requests at admins' noticeboards which don't get a reply
If I make a request in an admins' noticeboard (such as: AIV or RPP) which doesn't get a reply, can I request an admin to do that in their talk page? Dr Salvus 11:49, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes. The admin will appreciate it if you link previous requests (and may take offence if you don't). -- zzuuzz (talk) 12:55, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Oxford Art Online
Am I the only one who has been unable to access Oxford Art Online through the Wikipedia Library (https://www-oxfordartonline-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/) for the past few days? Is the site down? Ficaia (talk) 12:02, 17 April 2022 (UTC) Ficaia (talk) 12:08, 17 April 2022 (UTC)


 * it's not working for me either. It looks like it's a problem on the Oxford side of things, as https://www.oxfordartonline.com/ is also down. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 00:53, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * looks like it's back up again. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 19:29, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

how do curly apostrophes take more characters‽
A few hours ago, edited the article We begin bombing in five minutes, replacing curly with straight apostrophes IAW MOS:'. That's all well and good, but how did a one-for-one replacement of curlies with straights reduce the page's character-count by six‽ I'm not seeing any other edits, though please correct me if I'm wrong! Thanks, all! —  Fourthords  &#124; =Λ= &#124; 12:10, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
 * The numbers you see are byte counts, not the number of characters. Characters in computer language are basically numbers, represented as a series of bytes. The right single quotation mark, in Wikipedia's UTF-8 character encoding is represented by the bytes: 0xE2 0x80 0x99 (which is 8217 in decimal). The Apostrophe is represented by a single byte: 0x27 (39 in decimal). The edit therefore removed two bytes, in three places. The Interrobang you used in this section (0xE2 0x80 0xBD = 8253) could have saved one byte each time by using ?! (0x3F = 63, and 0x21 = 33) instead. Basically, in unicode, basic characters are smaller in size. Hopefully that's a bit clearer. -- zzuuzz (talk) 12:48, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I knew the edit-counter was by byte, I actually thought that&mdash;by and large&mdash;all characters = one byte. Tom Scott taught me that things get weird with emoji and such silliness, but I thought that if I was looking at regular, old, ASCII-lookin' text, it was still just one byte per character.  Thanks!  —   Fourthords  &#124; =Λ= &#124; 13:20, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
 * One byte can hold 256 different values (0 to 255). But Unicode defines tens of thousands of characters, so clearly one byte cannot suffice to represent any Unicode character. There are several ways of encoding a Unicode character into a sequence of bytes; the one used on Wikipedia is UTF-8, which is by far the most common nowadays. UTF-8 uses between one and four bytes to represent one character. So replacing a single character in an article with another single character can cause the article's byte count to increase or decrease by up to three bytes. CodeTalker (talk) 23:49, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

dsd and high resolution player
I have tried a sample dsd (dsd?) download from High resolution and it downloads to c users Roger downloads. how do I setup JRivers to play DsD and how to get Jrivers to find the download. As you can tell totally green at this. Roger — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.171.171.58 (talk) 14:32, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not clear on what this question has to do with Wikipedia. This page is not a general question asking forum, but a place to ask about editing or using Wikipedia. 331dot (talk) 14:37, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

False information about me
Hello,

I've tried to correct some factual errors about me which exist on a page about a political organization. Specifically, it says I'm a Russian citizen, which I am not. When I go in to edit this to say US citizen, the truth, the editors revert it back. Yet there's no evidence or news articles that verify I'm a Russian citizen (I'm not) and I also can't get a news link that says I'm not a Russian citizen. Kind of a ridiculous and politically motivated smear.

What can I do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.205.70.167 (talk) 21:25, 17 April 2022 (UTC)


 * If what you say is correct, the article shouldn't be making such assertions, but we can't do anything about it until you tell us which article you are referring to. AndyTheGrump (talk) 21:31, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
 * They came into help, they're referring to Yes California, specifically the part about Marinelli being a russian citizen. CUPIDICAE💕  21:41, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
 * One of the sources cited (Bloomberg ) is paywalled, and I don't have access. If someone can check whether it supports the claim of Russian citizenship, that would be helpful. The other source cited (KQED ) seems not to. AndyTheGrump (talk) 22:02, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
 * The Bloomberg article doesn't mention it. Qzd (talk) 22:10, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
 * In which case. I'll remove it from the article. Thanks. AndyTheGrump (talk) 22:18, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
 * [Edit Conflict] I concur with ; neither article makes any suggestion that Marinelli has acquired (or wants to acquire) Russian citizenship, though he is married to a Russian citizen and resides in Russia (having moved there "for visa reasons"), working as an English teacher. Also, the lede text is supposed to summarize referenced information in the main text (and thus does not necessarily require its own citations), but his citizenship is nowhere mentioned in the main text: the uncited lede assertion should be removed. (Aaand I see has done so in the last few minutes :-).) {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.197.101.71 (talk) 22:30, 17 April 2022 (UTC)