Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2022 April 22

= April 22 =

Sandbox Question
Can you make multiple user sandboxes for different subjects? I'm trying to make something, but I would have to clear my current sandbox. Thank you. TatiVogue (talk) 02:04, 22 April 2022 (UTC)


 * You may create as many subpages of your user page ("sandboxes") as you need, named as you wish. You can create a new one for you new article on the belubious at User:TatiVogue/Belubious. -Arch dude (talk) 03:02, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you. TatiVogue (talk) 11:05, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Change picture -- Jeffrey James
Hello, I have attempted to upload a current picture from 2022 of Australian television presenter, Jeffrey James. I have added it to the Wikipedia files for images and released the copyright. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jeffrey_James-2022.jpg#filelinks But it does not attach to the profile https://en.wikipedia.org  /wiki/Jeffrey_James     Can someone please assist me in publishing the image on the selected page. I hold the copyright of the image as advised in the license release. Thank you. (PS: My attempt to do this resulted in the deletion in an earlier photograph from seven years ago.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gweiloasiaguy (talk • contribs) 12:30, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * To hold the copyright, generally you must have taken the image. If you took the image, do you have an association with Mr. James? 331dot (talk) 12:39, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi . Some sort of formal verification is going to be need to confirm that you own the copyright of this image. Generally, it's the person who takes a photo who is considered to be the copyright holder in most cases. Did you take this photo? If you did, then just follow the instructions given in the template I added to the file's page. If you took this photo and you've already published somewhere on line (for example, on your personal webiste), then if you can provide a link to that website which shows that the image has been released under the same license that you used for Wikipedia, then that could be another way to verify your copyright ownership. If you didn't take the image yourself, then you can't really upload it to Wikipedia without having the copyright holder email their consent to Wikipedia or providing a link to a website that shows they've released the file under a license acceptable to Wikipedia. Just for reference, most of the images you find online are going to be considered to be under copyright (even if there's no copyright notice) unless it clearly says they're not; moreover, many websites host images that aren't the original content of the website which means the website doesn't own the copyright over such images. So, if you didn't take this photo yourself, you'll need to find out did and then get that person to release the photo under a license that Wikipedia accepts. -- Marchjuly (talk) 13:01, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * @Gweiloasiaguy, the picture source is listed as "email from subject's organisation". As 331 and Marchjuly said, receiving a picture by e-mail from the subject's organisation does not give you ownership of the copyright. 73.127.147.187 (talk) 00:49, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

How to create an article directly?
I've been on Wikipedia for a little while now and have even made my own article through AfC. I'm autoconfirmed, so I'm allowed. I looked at the FAQ and was led to user subpages, but the tutorial was 12 years old and I don't know how I could create an article directly through that. So basically, how do I create an article without going through AfC?

Asparagusus (talk) 13:30, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * If the subject you want to write about is already mentioned in another Wikipedia article, you can turn that mention into a link, which will appear red after you click Publish. You can then click the red link to begin creating the article.  You can also edit your personal sandbox and then move its contents into the encyclopedia yourself with the Move function(not a bad idea as you can then save your progress gradually and have less fear of deletion). 331dot (talk) 13:35, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks!
 * Asparagusus (talk) 14:40, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * The way I have created every article I've written has been by creating a user space draft. Type the title you want to create into the search bar. You will be told that the page doesn't exist - click on the link to create it, and it should give you the option to create a draft in your user space. Work it up until you're done, then move it into article space. Sure, you can create it in article space if you want, but it will be out immediately into the review queue, so if you don't get it finished in one go and come back to it an hour later, you might find a bunch of tags on it - better, in my view, to knock it into decent shape before releasing it to the perils of review. Cheers Girth Summit  (blether)  17:27, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * You could also simply use the following form, thanks to the InputBox mediawiki extension:


 * Hope this helps, Victor Schmidt (talk) 05:45, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Thomas Edward John, Jr
How do I edit my husbands page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Baseball25indiana (talk • contribs) 14:27, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * You shouldn't, but you may request changes on the article talk page, Talk:Tommy John. If you tag it as a formal edit request(click for instructions) other editors will be more likely to see it and respond.  Please read WP:COI for best practices when contributing in an area where you have a conflict of interest. 331dot (talk) 14:35, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * An IP is now edit warring to restore unsourced information (added by the OP) about a divorce/remarriage. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 16:29, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Link to WP research resources
A couple months ago I received a notification that I qualified for access to various research resources, such as JSTOR, newspapers, etc. I registered with a few of these; however, I've lost the link to the main page of listings, and I'm not sure whether these are stored in Wikipedia or the Commons. Would someone be kind enough to provide the link? From there, I'll be good to go, meaning I don't need any other information. Thanks. Allreet (talk) 15:19, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * You are probably thinking of The Wikipedia Library (https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/). DanCherek (talk) 15:20, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * @DanCherek: Perfect. The title escaped me. I'll be sure to save the link. Thanks. Allreet (talk) 15:55, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

COI determination sought
Iam seeking advice or, better still, a determination as to whether my direct edits to the article on Joseph DeCarolis would constitute a WP:COI. Having read that policy, Ido not remotely believe they could. But another contributor, on limited information, has stated that there is indeed a conflict of interest situation. Iwould therefore like to resolve this question before proceeding, lest events deteriorate. Most of the necessary background can be found at Talk:Joseph DeCarolis. Beyond that, Ihave a general desire to improve the coverage of significant persons in the energy domain, as evidenced by having started articles on Carl-A. Fechner and Hartmut Bossel. My edits to the page on Professor DeCarolis fall into that camp too. Iam also happy to expand on the background that Ihave provided as required. Finally to reinforce that there is no friendship involved and my academic contact has been negligible. The sum total of that contact is acknowledged in Morrison (2018:62) (doi:10.1016/j.esr.2017.12.010) thus: "Mark Howells and Joe DeCarolis kindly conﬁrmed their motivations for releasing OSeMOSYS and TEMOA respectively." And that was five years back. Looking forward, Iam highly unlikely to collaborate academically with Professor DeCarolis given his current move from academia to public service. Itrust a satisfactory resolution can be found— and Ido value the privilege of being able to contribute to Wikipedia in my subject area of energy system analysis, open data, and rapid decarbonization. RobbieIanMorrison (talk) 16:12, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello, . I do not think that you have a COI that should prevent you from editing that article. The best place to involve other editors in that assessment is the Conflict of interest/Noticeboard. Cullen328 (talk) 16:54, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi, many thanks. RobbieIanMorrison (talk) 17:11, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * FWIW, I agree that having once had an email exchange with someone, and working in the same academic discipline as them, is not enough to give you a substantive conflict of interest for the purposes of editing here. Girth Summit  (blether)  17:22, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Have added a message here as suggested: Conflict of interest/Noticeboard. Best, RobbieIanMorrison (talk) 17:34, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * For completeness, I carefully checked my email client and Ihad some brief traffic with Professor DeCarolis 15months ago to check the accuracy of the TEMOA entry on Wikipedia. Professor DeCarolis wrote the TEMOA model in 2010.  RobbieIanMorrison (talk) 18:36, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * In the interests of prudence, Ihave decided not to edit directly. More on the COI Noticeboard.  Thanks to those who contributed their views:  and .  RobbieIanMorrison (talk) 13:19, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

redirecting one existing Wikipedia article to another
I'm having difficulty understanding the process for redirecting one existing Wikipedia article (i.e., Latromirus) to another (Parioscorpio). I also want to delete the content of the Latromirus article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kennethcgass (talk • contribs)
 * I'm not sure if you mean you don't know how to perform the action, or if you mean you don't know how to determine when it is appropriate/when there is consensus to perform the action. From a purely technical standpoint if you wanted Latromirus to redirect to Parioscorpio, (and you are using a computer instead of a mobile device) you would push Edit on Latromirus, click in the edit window, hit CTRL+A to select all the text of the article, delete it, and then type #REDIRECT Parioscorpio, then publish the page. That said, there is obviously more to it than that.  For example, Latromirus is not mentioned anywhere in Parioscorpio, so someone searching for information on Latromirus would be confused at being redirected there. I would start with a merge discussion on Talk:Latromirus, wherein you lay out your reasoning for wanting it to redirect to Parioscorpio, see if there is consensus among editors of the two pages, and talk about what needs to be merged where.  ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 18:45, 22 April 2022 (UTC)


 * My question pertained to how to perform the action. See my response to R. S. Shaw. Kenneth C Gass (talk) 03:58, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

After looking at some of the material, I agree with ONUnicorn that the appropriate thing is to start a merge discussion on the talk page. It looks like Latromirus doesn't currently warrant a separate article, as it is not officially described or named in the literature. The situation seems confused about the material described in the unofficially published writing: a part of the fossil material is claimed in a published paper to belong to Parioscorpio ( Anderson et al. 2021) leaving one to wonder about the rest. The shown reconstruction to my inexpert eye looks different enough to be a different species, although perhaps of the same genus, but the whole supposed Latromirus may be a melange of several different organisms and perhaps not reliably reconstructed. I think the two unofficially published papers and the associated name should have a mention somewhere (hence a merge), but maybe in Waukesha Biota instead of Parioscorpio. OTOH, maybe the two papers were too preliminary to warrant mention anywhere. (I note the authors of the preprint are 4 of 5 authors of one of the Parioscorpio published papers.) --R. S. Shaw (talk) 22:51, 22 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Braddy and Dunlop 2021 (i.e., the most recently published peer-reviewed study covering this subject) attributed all of the material that Wendruff assigned to "Latromirus" in his dissertation to Parioscorpio, and B&D fully explained the rationale. It therefore makes most sense to redirect Latromirus to Parioscorpio, and to make an appropriate statement in the Parioscorpio article. Kenneth C Gass (talk) 03:43, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

How to edit the heading of a page?
Hi, I recently updated the page about Stoney Squaw Mountain (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoney_Squaw_Mountain). The derogatory word has been dropped, and the mountain is now called, "Stoney Mountain." I've updated the content to reflect that, but I'd like to re-name the heading for the page as well. I couldn't figure out how- can you please help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.193.82.252 (talk) 22:31, 22 April 2022 (UTC)


 * That article has no inline references. 73.127.147.187 (talk) 00:51, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

You can’t move the page as you are not logged in and therefore you cannot have autoconfirmed rights (they’re required). You can either make an account and get autoconfirmed, or you can request a move here-

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves

Asparagusus (talk) 22:48, 22 April 2022 (UTC)


 * It's been renamed, but not to "Stoney Mountain", but rather "Anû Kathâ Îpa" (Bald Eagle Peak). Wrong renaming. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:29, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I can't find anything that says the mountain has been renamed, only that efforts are underway to do so. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:33, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Ladd Vance
Ladd Vance is the son of singer, songwriter and record producer Kenny Vance (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenny_Vance) and film costume designer Marilyn Vance (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marilyn_Vance).

Ladd Vance is a vocalist and has been a member of Kenny Vance and The Planotones for 5 years.

https://kennyvanceandtheplanotones.com/about/ladd-vance/

Ladd has also had an extensive career in the film industry working on numerous film productions

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0003780/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:8001:A53D:4DB2:444B:8F4B:A9CA:F6F0 (talk) 22:46, 22 April 2022 (UTC)


 * None of the links you provide help to justify having an article about Ladd. —Jéské Couriano  v^&lowbar;^v  a little blue Bori 22:50, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Why is this on the help desk?

Asparagusus (talk) 22:49, 22 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Because people commonly post stuff here, at the Teahouse, or at AfC/HD assuming that either Google or another editor will pick it up. It never works (these pages are NOINDEXed, and they never provide usable sources). —Jéské Couriano  v^&lowbar;^v  a little blue Bori 22:52, 22 April 2022 (UTC)