Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2022 April 4

= April 4 =

Edit summary
Do we need to sign an edit summary? How? I could not find the current button (Signing) when I was about to add a reference to an article.اربابی دوم (talk) 08:45, 4 April 2022 (UTC)


 * No. The history has the editor info. Clarityfiend (talk) 09:07, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

How do I add a userbox to my User page? — e.g., en-5
I copied the double-curly brackets version onto my User page, but I can’t figure out how to copy the formatted box. FYI, I am using a mobile phone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Left Central (talk • contribs) 13:20, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
 * - I've taken the liberty of editing your user page to display the userboxes correctly, which is what I think you meant you wanted when you posted here. Mjroots (talk) 13:41, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Production companies
Is there an SNG for production companies (i.e. film companies, record labels, podcast networks) that I've missed somehow? I'm asking because I'm looking into improving a few pages for podcast networks (I was recently working on Luminary (podcast network) and QCode), and notability has come up as an issue a few times. Particularly, for Talk:QCode, Articles_for_deletion/Bald_Move, and now Articles_for_deletion/All_Things_Comedy. I've been on both sides of the keep/delete argument and I'm legitimately interested in following Wikipedia guidelines, but I've been unclear what the guidelines are in this case. I know that notability generally isn't WP:INHERITED, however, there are instances like WP:NENTERTAINER where a person can be notable because they played a major role in multiple notable productions. Is there something similar for production companies where a production company is notable because it has produced multiple notable shows? I'm also curious what the differentiation is between a company and its products. I voted to delete Bald Move on the basis that the coverage was only of its podcasts not of the company itself, but in the end the page was kept. I'm not sure if that's because the coverage was deemed an appropriate amount of coverage of the company or if it was deemed okay to have coverage of the podcasts instead of the company. Can I demonstrate notability for a production company by providing sources that discuss the company's shows? I've also noticed a lot of pages for production companies end up essentially becoming list articles that contain wikilinks to their shows. Sometimes these lists contain short paragraphs for each show such as WNYC Studios and Maximum Fun while other times they adopt a list or table format such as All Things Comedy or Parcast. Would WP:NLIST apply in these cases or would it be appropriate to move the page to something like "List of Parcast shows"? TipsyElephant (talk) 15:21, 4 April 2022 (UTC)


 * I'm not particularly experienced in this area, but wouldn't Notability (organizations and companies) be applicable? A production company is not its productions, it's just a company. -- R. S. Shaw (talk) 20:37, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Why is there a rule in Russian Wikipedia that is Russian racism?
There is a rule in Russian wikipedia, which is a Russian racist thing, that implies that Ukraine is not a country, but just a part of Russia - it shows that it is correct to say not "in Ukraine" but "on Ukraine". According to the rules of the Russian language: "on *some territory*" refers only to areas of the country, not to a separate country. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GoldNotGod (talk • contribs) 15:43, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid that no one here can speak to what is happening on other Wikipedia projects. You'll need to ask at ru.wikipedia.  -- Jayron 32 15:49, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
 * And please don't raise the same question in multiple places as it wastes people's time. (I replied at the Teahouse). ColinFine (talk) 16:12, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Because that's the correct idiomatic expression in the Russian language? I don't speak Russian, but it's like that in Czech: "na Ukrajině", and "na Slovensku" as well. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 16:16, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
 * It's difficult to say whether such a point is some sort of ideology (although I would say that the term "racism" is here rather carelessly used) or just some peculiarity of grammar. I do know that in the German language, when you go to a country, you go "nach" most countries--nach Deutschland (Germany), nach Frankreich (France).  But there are a few countries--their names are grammatically feminine, and you do use the article "die" before them--when you go to those countries, you go "in" those countries--in die Schweiz (Switzerland), in die Turkei (Turkey).  I don't think it reflects any common attitudes or national ideology.  Uporządnicki (talk) 18:29, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

I do not agree with the GA reviewer
One of my pages is being reviewed but I do not agree with the reviewer. If I still don't agree with him, what could I do? Dr Salvus 19:04, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
 * According to the GA reviewing instructions, you can post at Wikipedia_talk:Good_article_nominations to get more input. RudolfRed (talk) 19:09, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

F-16
The ceiling listed on Wikipedia says 58,000 feet, every other source says it has a maximum ceiling of 45,000 feet. I've changed it numerous times but it keeps going back to 58,000. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FEA8:88A1:6160:FC4B:B75F:C385:5A83 (talk) 20:48, 4 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Multiple IP users have changed the ceiling value for sometime without providing source(s) or or even explaining why they are changing it. -Fnlayson (talk) 20:57, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
 * This article has been subjected to disruptive edits for years, and has been semi-protected repeatedly. I have semi-protected it for six months this time. IP editor, please discuss the sources on the article's talk page, and make a formal edit request there. Cullen328 (talk) 00:11, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

about a deleted article
Hi!

I wanted to create a article by the name"transparent hands'.

could you please how to make one effective with proper guidance." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scholarcss (talk • contribs) 22:24, 4 April 2022 (UTC)


 * What reliable sources would such an article be based on? AndyTheGrump (talk) 22:48, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Well the first step would be to log into your original account,, and appeal the block that MER-C placed on it. You should not be editing Wikipedia while a previous account of yours is blocked. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 23:06, 4 April 2022 (UTC)