Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2022 August 15

= August 15 =

Daryl McCormack, actor
His birthday is wrong in Wiki. You have it as Dec 20 1992. It is really Jan 22, 1993. He is currently 29. The following is an interview where he states this. He has said it in other interviews too. youtube.com/watch?v=RnRBJJB12Fs 2601:42:C102:ABD0:0:0:0:B663 (talk) 02:12, 15 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks for finding the error! I removed the incorrect and unsourced birthday (Dec 20) and left it blank for now. Would you like to edit the article to add the correct birthday? Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 02:17, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I went ahead and added it. Thanks again! Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 03:00, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

Regarding protected pages
I would like to edit a protected page which provides wrong information. How can I do it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dheeraj L D (talk • contribs) 04:34, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
 * @Dheeraj L D: Assuming that the page in question is semiprotected, you just need to make one more edit to get autoconfirmed user rights. Be sure to have a reliable source handy. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 04:39, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
 * @Dheeraj L D You added additional info just before a pre-existing citation. Does that citation also support your added text?  If not, you need to move your text and add your citation.
 * Wait ... another editor @Wasell has reverted it. Thanks. 71.228.112.175 (talk) 09:32, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

Article wikiprojects?
I created an article (Katherine Deves) and would like to register it for Wikiproject Australia and Wikiproject Politics. Do I just add the template, or is there a specific way of doing so? JML1148 (talk) 08:40, 15 August 2022 (UTC)


 * @JML1148: According to and, respectively, you can just add the templates. Rummskartoffel  10:37, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your response! JML1148 (talk) 11:21, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

Donald Machholz Death Location
My husband’s page has the incorrect death location.

I am Michele Machholz, spouse of Donald Machholz, astronomer and visual comet discoverer.

He died at our home in Wikieup, Arizona.

Please help correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Washedlikeadish (talk • contribs) 13:04, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I am sorry for your loss. Please understand we cannot just take your word for it; this information must be published in a reliable source such as a news report or independently written obituary. Please direct concerns about that article to its talk page, Talk:Donald Machholz. 331dot (talk) 13:09, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

Undisclosed paid tag.
Hi! I've noticed that a user has tagged an article that i have spent alot of time building, editing, and sourcing with an Undisclosed paid tag, I cannot speak for other contributors to the article but I myself have not been paid, I dont even have a COI, I just am passionate about the topic... I don't know what to do, I am fairly new so I am not sure what the procedures would be to get this resolved. do I have any recourse? is there anyway to prove that I'm not a paid editor? I don't think that me just saying "trust me bro! I have no COI" really accomplishes anything, nor does me just deleting the tag. is this just the end of the line for me editing that article? Seigerman (talk) 14:26, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
 * If you have no paid editing relationship with the subject, just discuss that on the article talk page and explain that you aren't paid and have no COI. You can also ask the person who added the tag directly to see if it was added with regards to your edits. How did you come to edit about Mr. Krane? 331dot (talk) 14:29, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

Getting around post-expand include size limit using excerpt template with section begin/end labels?
I have hit the post-expand include size limit on a list article.

I am trying to use the excerpt template to get around this. which seems like a great solution as it would eliminate some duplicative articles. The only way I can see to get the right content is by using and.

But I can't get this to work. It transcludes perfectly using #section but not with the excerpt template. Can someone take a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Peacedance/sandbox ?

Thanks. Peacedance (talk) 16:09, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
 * You need to pass yes to excerpt. Also, as a general rule, doing things with excerpts will make the post-expand include size worse rather than better. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:01, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I have been trying to convert the page from a mix of some wikitables and some Lua Module:Episode table/lists to all episode list. Is my only option if want to do this to split the article?
 * Also should the table be using the Lua invoke:Episode table/list directly, as it currently is, or should it be using the Episode table/list templates?
 * Thanks. Peacedance (talk) 13:12, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Using the module directly has a lower post-expand include size than using the template, although the later is preferred by custom when post-expand include size is not an issue. I've brought the post-expand include size down on List of The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson episodes with Special:Diff/1104713086, so the current approach can be made to work (as, probably, can using episode list/table templates fully), although adding more layers of templates (by transcluding every year from the corresponding year page) will likely cause it to break again. Consider this: what is the purpose of separate articles like List of The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson episodes (2005)?. Why not redirect it and its brethren to List of The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson episodes? * Pppery * it has begun...  13:51, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Submitting Content
Hi! So, I'm super new to Wikipedia so I am worried that I maybe submitted my article incorrectly. I am trying to get a page up about a music artist that my company manages, so I don't think that necessarily counts as an article with secondary sources, it's more of a bio. Would you mind pointing me in the right direction so I can get this up ASAP? Thank you! Ecfam (talk) 16:40, 15 August 2022 (UTC)


 * @Ecfam, Wikipedia does not host bios - it hosts articles with secondary sources. You'd be better off using social media or your own website. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 16:58, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello, Ecfam. Judging from your question it looks as if, like many people, you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is, as you appear to be intending to use if for Promotion. Promotion (which is interpreted more widely than in normal use) is forbidden anywhere in Wikipedia. If your client meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability (and not otherwise), there could be an article about them. Irrespective of who writes the article, it will not belong to you or your client, it will not be controlled by you or your client, it may be edited by almost anybody in the world except your or your client (you can make edit requests on it, but should not edit it directly), it will not necessarily contain material that you or your client approve of, and it should be based almost entirely on what people wholly unconnected with your or your client have chosen to publish about them, not on what you or your client say or want to say.
 * If, given this, you decide to continue with the (much harder than it looks) task of writing an encyclopaedia article about your client, and you can find the necessary sources that are substantial, reliably published, and wholly unconnected with your or your client, then you may try. You must first make a formal declaration of your status as a paid editor, and then you should study your first article, and use the articles for creation process to make a draft. ColinFine (talk) 18:05, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
 * , my Google search uncovered no evidence that Sarah Cothran is a notable musical performer at this time. What is required is significant coverage in multiple reliable sources that are independent of the performer and your company. All I see is the usual array of social media and music sharing sites, and one or two pieces that are obviously the direct result of promotional activity. Cullen328 (talk) 18:41, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

How do I get a page un-deleted?
Hi there! A client of mine had their personal bio page deleted, and we have no idea why. The page has existed for years and is regularly updated. How do we get this page reinstated? Thank you! -Andrea Andreahrizk (talk) 17:59, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello, . The first thing that you should do is comply with the mandatory Paid contributions disclosure. If you give us the name of the deleted article, then an administrator can look into the circumstances, and see whether it might be restored as a draft. Articles deleted due to copyright violations or other legal issues will not be restored. Deletion review is the formal procedure. But complete the disclosure first. Cullen328 (talk) 18:24, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
 * , if this is about Wes Moss, then please read Articles for deletion/Wes Moss (2nd nomination). That was an unreferenced biography of a living person, and that is a policy violation. The deleted article failed to make the case that this person is a Notable person by Wikipedia's standards. Cullen328 (talk) 18:29, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello, Andreahrizk. A more accurate statement of what you said would be that a Wikipedia administrator applied Wikipedia's policies and processes and decided to delete Wikipedia's article about your client. It was never "their personal bio page". As others have said, it is possible that it could be undeleted, but only if it can be shown that the subject meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability. ColinFine (talk) 18:38, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

My talk page
Hi, there appears to be a problem when I use the [reply] feature on my own user talk page but I can't seem to find the problem.

Whenever I click the Reply button on the bottom right of my screen, the red box with the text "Your comment could not be published to the most recent version of the page. To see the latest changes, copy your drafted comment and then use your browser to reload the page." comes up. Hopefully someone knows this problem and can be rectified so I can use the [reply] feature on my user talk page properly. Thanks, Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 18:38, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
 * You have an unclosed table at the top of User:Iggy the Swan/TPHeader. Is that deliberate (intending to indent the entire content of the page somewhat), or is it accidental? Removing it should fix the problem. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:45, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I can't seem to find the unclosed table when checking the code properly. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 18:54, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I've spotted the problem and fixed it, I've also done a test [reply] and that worked. Thanks for at least finding which page the problem was located. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 19:36, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

Reporting inappropriate remarks
How do I report a comment on a Talk page for racist comments? CFLeon (talk) 19:37, 15 August 2022 (UTC)


 * WP:AIV for really obvious stuff, or WP:ANI of it needs much explaining. Girth Summit  (blether)  19:40, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

HElp
help 90.240.18.101 (talk) 21:20, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
 * With? We can't read your mind. —Jéské Couriano  v^&lowbar;^v  a little blue Bori 21:23, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

How to email or text Mrs Cheney
e-mail or text for Liz Cheney 2600:1700:FD0:2220:4A8:315C:C9B5:3B3B (talk) 23:51, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6.5 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  23:54, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
 * We also cannot and will not provide contact information for someone. Any such information would be suppressed due to the risk it would lead to harassment, and in this case given Cheney's status as a pariah within her own party we have a moral obligation to not subject her to the resultant toxicity. —Jéské Couriano  v^&lowbar;^v  a little blue Bori 01:19, 16 August 2022 (UTC).
 * That is not correct, . Liz Cheney, like the articles for most serving members of Congress, includes external links to her website twice, once in the infobox and once in the external links section at the end of the article. Her website allows people to email her, although many members of Congress only respond to emails from people who state that they reside in the member's Congressional district. Cullen328 (talk) 05:21, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Linking to her website isn't equivalent to directly providing contact information. Her website isn't personally-identifying information; phone/fax numbers and email addresses are. —Jéské Couriano  v^&lowbar;^v  a little blue Bori 06:26, 16 August 2022 (UTC)