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= August 18 =

Multiple addresses in the infobox
I edit high school articles, and it isn't rare that I come across a school with multiple addresses (e.g., multiple campuses such as North Campus and South Campus, or different campuses for different grades such as an elementary, middle, and high school campus):
 * In the infobox, would it be appropriate to list all addresses, or should only the common aspects of the addresses, such as country, state/province, and city? (e.g., if not all the schools have the same city in common, but have the same province and country in common, only write the province and country in the infobox)
 * If all addresses should be listed, what is the limit for when addresses shouldn't be listed in its entirety (e.g., perhaps when an organization that has schools across the country)?
 * If the addresses shouldn't be listed in the infobox, should they be listed in the body of the article?
 * If there is ever a time multiple addresses should be listed in the infobox, how should it be formatted? Is the example below an OK way to format them, and is there a better way to format this?:

Campus 1 1234 Example St A city, state Country Campus 2 567 Example Rd A city, state Country TheGEICOgecko (talk) 06:29, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi . You might want to ask about this WT:WPSCHOOLS, but I personally think adding too much of this type of information might be contrary to the purpose of MOS:INFOBOX and run afoul of WP:NOTDIRECTORY. A Wikipedia article infobox isn't (at least not in my opinion) intended to be an "About us" or "Contact us" type of section you might find on an organization's official website. It seems (again in my opinion) only appropriate to list the main address for the school and not the address of each campus. If the other information is on the school's official website and there's a link to that website in the infobox or in the External links seciton, then that seems more than sufficient from a Wikipedia standpoint. Finally, I'm wondering whether anyone has previously brought up your choice of user name before. It could possibly be seen by some as being promotional since there is after all the The GEICO Gecko advertising campaign. I might be overthinking things a bit, which is why I wondering whether it ever came up before. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:36, 18 August 2022 (UTC); [Note: Minor copyediting made to original post by Marchjuly to add some words (indicated by underlining) that were left out by mistake. -- 21:30, 18 August 2022 (UTC)]
 * I decided not to bring it up to WikiProject Schools because it seemed to be more so about a general rule on infoboxes/addresses.
 * What if they don't have any particular main campus? Should there be no address, or only the common aspects of the addresses, like the country?
 * My username has been brought up a couple times in the past. I have addressed it on my user page, of which I have stated I will not interact with articles related to car insurance to avoid any conflict of interest or action potentially seen as promotional, and that I am in no way affiliated with the company. TheGEICOgecko (talk) 13:32, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
 * That infobox has a plural parameter called . It's not clear from the documentation page what it actually does though. - X201 (talk) 13:29, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
 * It says it's only for the names of the campuses TheGEICOgecko (talk) 13:33, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I would agree with Marchjuly that the infobox should not generally not contain multiple addresses/locations. For a school, use the main location, or that of the most notable location (usu. the high school). If there is no main campus, it may be a private school organization that would still have a headquarters location. If that is unknown, I would just use the place they operate (e.g. county, state, province, etc). The school infobox does not require using the address/city/state/zip parameters; there is an alternative field location that implies a less specific location is acceptable when appropriate. The infobox is supposed to a quick summary of "key info" and should not be cluttered up with too many details. MB 16:11, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

Grand Arcade (Leeds)
refs number 3 and 5 are the same - can they be "doubled up" please? thanks in advance 49.198.41.28 (talk) 08:07, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ Recommend using an wp:edit request instead. Cheers Adakiko (talk) 08:13, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

Martha Mitchell
Martha Mitchell massively factually contadicts https://www.encyclopedia.com/women/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/mitchell-martha-1918-1976 - a reliable source. VANDALIZING uses an offline reference: "" 0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 10:08, 18 August 2022 (UTC)


 * This is article related, so it should be raised at Talk:Martha Mitchell.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 10:13, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Please read Vandalism, specifically WP:NOTVANDALISM. Relying on a source that you, personally, do not approve of, does not constitute vandalism. It may be wrong, bad, immoral, or just plain misguided, but it is not vandalism. —  Wasell ( T ) 🌻 14:28, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

Hide and seek
I recently created the template by tweaking an existing template. The template has a hide/show option, which appears to "show" as the default. Is it possible to change this to "hide" by default without sabotaging the base Routemap template? thanks Jimfbleak - talk to me?  10:58, 18 August 2022 (UTC)


 * &#128156; melecie   talk  - 11:01, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
 * @Jimfbleak: You can use Routemap's collapse parameter (documented at ), taking into account MOS:COLLAPSE. Rummskartoffel 11:10, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
 * , thank you! I set |collapsed=0, and it did exactly what I wanted Jimfbleak - talk to me?  12:45, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Any value works as the documentation says but 0 is a confusing choice because it usually means false/no/off. true/yes/on/1 are the common values to enable something. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:37, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
 * PrimeHunter, thanks, I'd already set it to "yes" having stumbled across another page indicating that you should use "yes" ("no" is the default) Jimfbleak - talk to me?  08:21, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

Student publishing journal articles
My name is Victoria ,a Master's student at United States International  University-Africa. I am studying Marriage and Family Therapy. I would like information about student articles and if you allow students to publish their articles on Wikipedia. 41.212.116.242 (talk) 13:46, 18 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello, Victoria. I'm not quite sure what you mean by "student articles"; but the answer is that anyone can contribute to Wikipedia. In principle that means that anyone can write a new article; but editors with little experience who try to create articles often have a frustrating time, and I always advise them to get a few months' experience improving some of our six million articles before they try it.
 * Note that Wikipedia does not allow original research: all articles should summarise what existing reliable published sources say about a subject, no more. If your studies are leading you to new discoveries, new insights, or new conclusions, Wikipedia is absolutely not the place to publish these.
 * I suggest reading Introduction; and when you're ready to contemplate creating a new article read your first article.
 * By the way, you do not have to create an account in order to edit articles (or even to create them, if you go through the draft process) but there are some advantages in doing so. ColinFine (talk) 14:25, 18 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a journal, so our articles are very different than journal articles. the biggest difference is that an encyclopedia articles is not permitted to contain original research, While original research is usually the entire purpose of a journal article. We will gratefully accept you help if you wish to improve our articles, but you must find another place for your journal articles. -Arch dude (talk) 01:54, 19 August 2022 (UTC)


 * WP:ACADEME is a great essay for academics who are interested in editing Wikipedia and common pitfalls academics fall into. Happy editing and please ask more questions if you have new ones! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 18:30, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

Editing
I want to know how to edit on Wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lihleikhayalethu (talk • contribs) 13:52, 18 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello, Lihleikhayalethu. Please see Help:Introduction.
 * The reason your edit to Shri Krishna Sinha was reverted is that you inserted two words in an unhelpful place, without giving any idea of why you had inserted them, and without citing a source. Your edit summary said "the name": Whose name? Why does it belong in the article? Why does it belong at the top of that section? What reliable published source says that it is the name (of whatever it is)?
 * For many edits, it is obvious why the editor has made them, but they may still be removed because they are uncited, or another editor thinks they are not appropriate for the article (see WP:BRD). But in the case of your edit, I have no idea why you inserted it or what it means, and I suspect that the editor who reverted it also didn't know. ColinFine (talk) 14:33, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

New user homepage feedback
Hey! So I went to provide some feedback for the new user homepage, however I didn't see a button allowing me to do so. Does anyone have a link for where I can provide feedback on it? ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 16:04, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia talk:Growth Team features is probably the best place. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:06, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks! ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 16:08, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

page published
published page Singhsatwinder9 (talk) 18:39, 18 August 2022 (UTC)


 * If this is about User:Singhsatwinder9/sandbox there is no chance in hell an unreferenced biography will be accepted. —<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>  v^&lowbar;^v  a little blue Bori 18:42, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

WRITING ON WIKIPEDIA
When I join Wikipedia for the first time, what is the best decision to make? what are the best topics to also write on as a newbie? Independent Ghana official (talk) 21:23, 18 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello, Independent Ghana official. Welcome to Wikipedia. Please have a look at Help:Introduction. I suggest you take it slowly: find some existing articles of interest to you, and see what small improvements you can make. I advise you not to try the challenging task of creating a new article until you have acquired some experience editing.
 * You might like to have a look at WP:WikiProject Ghana as well. It's not clear it is an active project, but there are probably some useful resources there.
 * I'm not sure whether or not your username is in accordance with our Username policy: generally names which suggest that you might be editing on behalf of some organisation are forbidden (the elements 'official' and 'independent' in your user name seem to contradict each other, so it is possible that this will be acceptable).
 * Happy editing! ColinFine (talk) 21:45, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for deciding to contribute to Wikipedia! You can view the task center for a list of useful tasks you can do, ordered by difficulty. Also, see the community portal, which has other opportunities to help out. If you are confident in your English skills, I would recommend starting by copyediting articles, which is editing through articles to increase their conciseness and clarity. — PerfectSoundWhatever  (t; c) 15:36, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

Hello
Please help us maintain the page of our teacher Ogyen Trinley Dorje, the 17th Karmapa. Some people, most likely friends of China, are maliciously putting in wrong information and unfounded information into it. Bodhisato (talk) 21:48, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
 * FYI It looks like there's an edit dispute, but CodeTalker has been editing for a long time. Perhaps discuss on the talk page. <b style="color:#7F007F">TimTempleton</b> <sup style="color:#800080">(talk)  <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  22:02, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

CS1 errors
Hi, I'm brushing up an article, and in the hidden category it tells me there are some CS1 errors and maints, namely generic author (which I can see), but the ones I can't see is missing periodical, multiple names: authors list, and url-status. What do these mean? Does missing periodical refer to missing volume and issue? Thanks X-750 List of articles that I have screwed over 23:33, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I guess it's about Oil refinery. Please always be specifc and link to any page or article your question involves. See Help:CS1 errors for how to see hidden error mesages. The "Case Studies Of Corrosion Failures In Oil Refineries" reference (currently number 81) says "Cite journal requires |journal=". PrimeHunter (talk) 00:32, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh yes sorry,, it is Oil refinery. Thank you very much. X-750 List of articles that I have screwed over 01:13, 19 August 2022 (UTC)