Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2022 December 24

= December 24 =

Moving a page to a title with significant content
I seem to remember, that a move request should not have a destination with significant content. If such a guideline exists, can you please point me to this page, and ping me when you respond? --Jax 0677 (talk) 01:26, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
 * If I think that the article "Tweedledee" should be moved to "Tweedledum", and if the latter exists, then moving "Tweedledee" to "Tweedledum" will (by deleting its content) effectively delete the latter. We're not supposed to delete articles without going through this or that prescribed process. Perhaps there's a guideline that says that merely wanting the title of an existing article doesn't justify deleting or blanking that article, but if so then this guideline seems rather superfluous. (Or do I misunderstand the question/situation? Anyway, ping!) -- Hoary (talk) 05:20, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
 *  Reply -, there is a discussion about moving Howl at the Moon (piano bar) to Howl at the Moon, but there is no discussion about moving Howl at the Moon to Howl at the Moon (disambiguation). The latter should be listed as part of the move request. --Jax 0677 (talk) 10:16, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

fake calls
we are getting some fake calls from the naukari help desk and they are sending fake mails and offering money 2405:201:C00C:3BEE:159A:AAF6:B229:4F7D (talk) 10:52, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the "help desk" for matters related to English-language Wikipedia. If your predicament is related to English-language Wikipedia, perhaps you can explain it in a different way. (If it isn't, you'll have to ask about it elsewhere.) -- Hoary (talk) 11:38, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
 * You should easily be able to block unwanted callers and report them to your service provider and report "fake" emails to your email provider. Shantavira|feed me 11:52, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

Notability References
Hi, If one article is completed and, It requires notability.. Then, What things should be added at the {AfC Comment} section. Only three best independent source's hyperlinks or only the website links.? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Perfectodefecto (talk • contribs) 15:09, 24 December 2022 (UTC)


 * @perfectodefecto: don't edit the comment section. (hold on, this seems wrong) see help:referencing for beginners for how to cite statements. lettherebedarklight晚安 15:19, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
 * @Perfectodefecto while not required, I do think that leaving three best sources in the comments section can significantly speed up the reviewing process. (hyper)Linking to the specific article that you are referencing for the draft and not the entire website would be best if I'm interpreting your question correctly.  Just ' i ' yaya  15:24, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

@lettherebedarklight thanks for the help.

@ Just  Thank you so much, I was exactly asking for this... Now it's clear. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Perfectodefecto (talk • contribs) 15:34, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

Navbox at "List of mass shootings in the United States in 2022"
Do you know why the navbox at List of mass shootings in the United States in 2022 is not displaying? Please ping me when you reply. --Jax 0677 (talk) 16:10, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Because the article is exceeding the post-expand include size limit * Pppery * it has begun... 16:19, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
 *  Reply -, so, how do I fix this issue? --Jax 0677 (talk) 16:32, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
 * As far as I know, the only way to fix it is by reducing the number and complexity of templates in it, either by removing some of them, or by splitting the article up. ColinFine (talk) 17:38, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
 * @Jax 0677 - The problem is that the article has over 700 citations. That.. breaks the software pretty hard. Perhaps a WP:SPLIT is in order? casualdejekyll  17:45, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
 *  Reply - I have proposed a split to a previous year before, but was shot down. Would you like to give it a try? --Jax 0677 (talk) 14:09, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
 * by itself contributes about 568,810/2,097,152 bytes to the PEIS. That's more than a quarter of the allowance.  I got that number by editing the template and commenting out the  template and then Show previewing.  The numbers come from the Parser profiling data dropdown.  Inside  are  and 690  templates.
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 18:43, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I have made a fix with  instead of template calls in Map of United States mass shootings/2022. It works now but the list still uses 94% of the template limit so it could happen again in the future. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:23, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
 * We encountered this problem on one of the COVID-19 pandemic pages a while back. We solved it by splitting the article into more manageable ones, and stopped transcluding huge templates and instead provided accessible links to them in a sidebar. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:09, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
 * We encountered this problem on one of the COVID-19 pandemic pages a while back. We solved it by splitting the article into more manageable ones, and stopped transcluding huge templates and instead provided accessible links to them in a sidebar. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:09, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

List building help
Hi. I am wondering if an editor experienced with lists could drop on my talk page for advice. Climate fiction is basically one big, unformatted list after it's lead. I would like to shuffle the list of books out into a proper list article, leaving the main article to focus on definitions and criticism. Thank you! Greenbound (talk) 18:25, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I disagree with your description of the article in its current state, Greenbound. But my disagreement and my opinions for improvement aside, I suggest that the best place for you to put forward your opinions (perhaps tentatively at first, and concretely only later) would be Talk:Climate fiction. -- Hoary (talk) 04:00, 25 December 2022 (UTC) ... as you have already done. -- Hoary (talk) 04:11, 25 December 2022 (UTC)