Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2022 July 14

= July 14 =

revert an article to previous version
hello, i want to revert an article to its previous version, how do i do that? InfiniteSword (talk) 05:02, 14 July 2022 (UTC)


 * I am not very experienced neither, but I usually just copy and paste the source or use WP:Twinkle. QiuLiming1 (talk) 05:27, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * To revert to a previous version, go to the article's history and click on the version your wish to revert to. This will display it. you can then click the "restore this version" in the "this is an old version" box at teh top of the displayes article. Please make sure you really want to do this: all the later edits will no longer be there. Also make sure to leave a meaningful edit summary to explain why you did this. -Arch dude (talk) 05:36, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * But if you just want to undo the most recent edit, go to the article's history and click on the "undo" at the end of the most recent history entry. Again, please explain using a meaningful edit summary. -Arch dude (talk) 05:40, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * thanks arch dude! i will make sure to only revert articles when actually necessary and provide a reason in edit summary InfiniteSword (talk) 09:31, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Would it be a good general idea to convert "audio" templates to "listen" templates?
Here's an example using the template &lcub;&lcub;audio&rcub;&rcub;:

Here's the same thing using &lcub;&lcub;listen&rcub;&rcub; instead:

The first example has a link which says "play", but it's irritating because it doesn't. For reasons explained at Help:Media (MIDI), it will download the midi file to your machine instead, which will then play when located and opened if the machine is set up to play midi, which Windows computers typically aren't. Android seems able to play midi files by default, but it's still annoying to leave the browser to do so. If you click on "info", that leads to a page with the file embedded a third way, using &lsqb;&lsqb;File:&rsqb;&rsqb;, which works like &lcub;&lcub;listen&rcub;&rcub; without the decorations. I guess an argument could be made about server load, but other than that it seems to me really bad to present these frustrating non-functional links to the reader. I think the &lcub;&lcub;audio&rcub;&rcub; template is just out of date (by ten or twenty years). Card Zero (talk) 10:49, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I suggest you start a discussion on the talk page of audio, and add a pointer to your discussion at the talk page of listen. The folks who are watching those pages, if any, will be your best source of informed opinions. After a week or so, If nobody comments, change a few of the pages that use audio and wait another week or so to see if anyone objects. -Arch dude (talk) 20:08, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that sounds like a plan. I see the audio template talk page already has a relevant section, "What to do with MIDIs?" from 2019, with no replies. (Hi User:Nardog.) Card Zero  (talk) 21:56, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Use of Wikipedia text content
Hi We have an educational website. In a free English vocabulary training course, we have used the text sections of Wikipedia. Of course, Wikipedia's name is mentioned in the course description in the sources section. This course is free, but to use this course and its information, you must become a member of our site. (Membership is free). Is this allowed? And there is no problem with copyright? Thank you in advance. MHE78 (talk) 12:24, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * You can reuse Wikipedia text as long as you provide attribution. Images are more complicated.  It doesn't matter if you charge for the course or not, Wikipedia's license allows reuse for any purpose(including commercial). 331dot (talk) 12:31, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * See Reusing Wikipedia content. You must give a url or list of authors for the specific pages you use. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:40, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

NUMBER OF USERS EDITING THE PAGE IN A SPECIFIC PERIOD OF TIME
Hello

In a specific page, I would like to know how many users edit it, in a period of time. How is the best form to extract this data? 190.144.212.54 (talk) 13:19, 14 July 2022 (UTC)


 * You should be able to use Quarry to accomplish this. WelpThatWorked (talk) 13:34, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * xtools has this functionality, e.g. https://xtools.wmflabs.org/articleinfo/en.wikipedia.org/Main_Page has the info for the main page. 163.1.15.238 (talk) 16:07, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Economics
Duties of consumer rights — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.252.79.10 (talk) 17:39, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello. Do you have a question about editing Wikipedia? Cullen328 (talk) 17:54, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

External Link
What are Wikipedia rules when I want to add a link to a book that resides on archieve.org? The book is not a reference but to list the literary work of a dead person. SULNOUR (talk) 17:58, 14 July 2022 (UTC)


 * You can use Template:Cite book to add citations referencing books. Where you found the book shouldn't matter, as that's just where one copy of the book is from. You can see Citing sources for more detailed information. WelpThatWorked (talk) 19:10, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * , that template can be used without reference tags to simply present complete bibliographic information about the book, without creating a reference. Cullen328 (talk) 20:00, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

sandbox page gone
What happened to the sandbox page I was editing a few days ago? I didn't finish, so it was not published. Why can't I find it again to continue editing it? Dcdan4 (talk) 23:11, 14 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Because you never published it. (The "Publish page" button used to be "save page", but people complained that what they saved was visible to anyone who knew where to look, hence why it was changed. Now we're getting complaints in the opposite direction. C'est la vie.) —Jéské Couriano  v^&lowbar;^v  a little blue Bori 23:20, 14 July 2022 (UTC)