Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2022 June 13

= June 13 =

My edits are never saved
I am trying to edit this page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viber, and I am adding words/sections that are updated and relevant about the company, including sources, and it's still always reverted back to the way it was and not saved. Why it is not saved despite the fact that I am always providing the reasons and links? Who can I speak to in order to solve this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by CKWiki1818 (talk • contribs) 07:09, 13 June 2022 (UTC)


 * An edit will not save if it has an external link on the spam blacklist. However, could you give some more detail or a screenshot showing what is happening here?-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 07:12, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Please do not ask for help in multiple places. Look for a response at the WP:TEAHOUSE MB 07:15, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Vandalism help request from Tbeut
I have noticed some vandalism at []. Namely, the link to the Calf Creek Texas History website http://www.calfcreek.net/calfcreek.html. goes to a pornographic website. Would an editor please assist me with fixing it? Thank you, Tbeut (talk) 11:56, 13 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi u|Tbeut! The link you have copied here does not do that for me, not does the one in the article (which has not been edited in the last 4 months). Perhaps there is malware on your own device?.
 * Edited to add – now the destination page is showing up blank. I suspect that the website itself is undergoing some kind of attack and/or maintenance issue. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.193.131.154 (talk) 12:44, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

KwaZulu Natal Floods
In April 2022, days of heavy rain across KwaZulu natal in Southeastern South Africa led to deadly floods. Particularly hard-hit were areas in and around Durban.At least 435 people died across the province with an unknown number of people missing as April 22. Several thousand homes were damaged and destroyed. Critical infrastructure, including major roads, transportation, and electrical systems were also impacted by the flooding, and this damage greatly hampered recovery and relief efforts. It is one of the deadliest natural disasters in the country in the 21st century. The floods have caused more than R17 billion in infrastructure damage. Rescuers are in search of dozens of people who are still missing in floods. After floods and mudslides friggered by heavy rains recent days killing more than 500 people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.116.242.160 (talk) 12:33, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Why are you copypasting the lede of our article 2022 KwaZulu-Natal floods to this editing helpdesk? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.193.131.154 (talk) 12:38, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Images
How could i add images to my articles while editing by source please tell me — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rrbigdog1 (talk • contribs) 13:47, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
 * see Extended image syntax. The most basic form is Example.jpg and looks like on the right. Example.jpg Hope this helps, Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 14:14, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
 * For an image that is not already uploded to Wikipedia or Commons, the single most important step is to ensure the image copyright is acceptable. If it is not, then we will delete the image.
 * find or create an appropriate image on your computer. If you did not create the image yourself, make sure the copyright holder has provided an acceptable license.
 * use the upload wizard to upload the image to Commons.
 * Add the correct "file" syntax to the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arch dude (talk • contribs) 15:26, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

I can't view images
For some reason I am unable to see images on either wikipedia or at Commons, but can see pictures everywhere else I go. This is after 15 years (or whatever) of being able to see them. Is there a setting or something I can do to change this. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 15:43, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
 * It is a bit of a long shot, but have you accidentally blocked the images within the settings on your browser? MS Edge and Chrome (I think) have a "Cookies and site permissions" entry which you can deliberately single out a particular site/domain and block things like its ability to geolocate you or to activate your camera (for example). It would be possible to block images entirely using these settings. Mike Turnbull (talk) 10:39, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks - my tech brother is comming over later today.   We'll give this a shot. Carptrash (talk) 15:41, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

Help on citing
In the article Lakeside, Ohio, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakeside,_Ohio, I saw the error message in my citing, problem = External link in | =, and I went to the help page, but when I looked through and went back to the original article, the parameter that I was using to hold the URL wasn't on the list of non-URL-holding parameters on the Help: page (I think!). So currently I am stuck on what to do! Am I wrong? I'm definitely not a tech person, so if this could be explained that would be great, Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mozart12345678910 (talk • contribs) 15:46, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
 * @Mozart12345678910 - has fixed the error with .  The error is that the "website=" parameter is not supposed to contain a URL, but rather the name of the website hosting the content (see here for more information about what that parameter is asking for).  That said, I don't think Kiddle meets Wikipedia's requirements for a reliable source as the disclaimer at the bottom of the website notes that, "Kiddle encyclopedia articles are based on selected content and facts from Wikipedia, edited or rewritten for children."  In other words, using this as a source for a Wikipedia article presents circular referencing problems. ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 16:21, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for spotting that (I didn't!) I replied to the OP here but they deleted their first post while I was doing so. Hence I got an EC. (!) Eagleash (talk) 17:31, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 17:31, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Moving a page over a redirect
I was curious whether moving/accepting Draft:Blind Landing to Blind landing would cause issues. I've never come across a draft with a pre-existing redirect in mainspace. Based on WP:MOR, I think it would be fine, but I'm not sure how the AFC helper script differs from just moving the draft. I'm also not sure whether to move or accept the draft. I found it after it had been rejected and made improvements to it, which is okay to do before accepting a draft. However, I was also the one who resubmitted it to AFC. I just don't see the point of waiting any longer for another AfC reviewer to accept it when the backlog is so long and I am confident it should be published to mainspace. TipsyElephant (talk) 19:23, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Or perhaps I should move Draft:Blind Landing to Draft:Blind Landing (podcast) and then accept it or move it to mainspace. I suppose I could have asked this at WP:AFCHD. TipsyElephant (talk) 19:47, 13 June 2022 (UTC)


 * @TipsyElephant There is a speedy deletion criteria just for that situation, CSD G6. Tag the redirect with page to be moved, include in your reason that it is holding up an accepted AFC submission, and wait for an admin to come along. You should do everything else that needs to be done for it to be mainspace ready, including removing the AFC templates, etc., so all the admin has to do is delete the redirect and move the page.  You should also make sure there is no history behind the redirect that needs to be preserved (in this case I already checked and their isn't, but if it was ever merged and the history needs to be retained the process is more complicated). ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 20:40, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
 * You (or someone) will need to fix all the incoming links to Blind landing, and also place hatnotes on the new article and on Instrument approach. -Arch dude (talk) 21:41, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't have a ton of experience with hatnotes either. Was the hatnote I used for Blind Landing appropriate? What would you recommend for Instrument approach? TipsyElephant (talk) 18:43, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Now that I look at it, maybe no hatnote is needed in Instrument approach, because the term "blind landing" does not occur there. That's odd, given the old redirect. Your hatnote in the new article looks good to me, but I'm not an expert either. -Arch dude (talk) 21:17, 14 June 2022 (UTC)