Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2022 June 14

= June 14 =

Threatened with being blocked
Help, some editors are against my edits and I am being threatened with being blocked with what I think are best to edit to keep on Wikipedia. It's my definitions against theirs and I don't want to go into this fighting, but rather, I actually want my edits published. The old edits were cruel and mean. 118.208.233.159 (talk) 00:10, 14 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Canvassing to win an edit war is a spectacularly bad idea. —Jéské Couriano  v^&lowbar;^v  a little blue Bori 00:13, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi IP 118.208.233.159. Another editor has opened a discussion about this at WP:DR/N and you're welcome to participate in it. If, on the other hand, you continue to try and force the changes you think should be made into the article despite the objections of others, your account is likely going to end up being blocked for edit warring by an administrator. When there are disagreements over content, users are expected to try and resolve them per Wikipedia:Dispute resolution; moreover, the WP:ONUS generally falls upon the user wanting to make a certain change to establish a WP:CONSENSUS that it should be made, particularly when others are in disagreement and the change has been reverted multiple times. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:21, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

My Saved articles
Hi, I have several hundred saved articles and I would access them with a saved icon at The bottom of the page. This icon does not appear on my new device. Help please, how do I find Saved articles?

John Naughton

User Naughton1237 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naughton1237 (talk • contribs) 01:43, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
 * What was your old device and what software (browser or app) were you using? What is your new device and what browser or app does it use? I have always used a browser, and Wikipedia has no "saved articles" in the brower, so I suspect this list was saved locally on your old device. -Arch dude (talk) 01:49, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Saved pages is a feature in some Wikipedia apps. It is not available in browsers. mw:Wikimedia Apps/iOS FAQ says it can be synced between devices but only if they both use a Wikipedia app. I haven't tried it. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:40, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Browsers can save links or "bookmarks". Whether those  are at the bottom of the "page" (the browser window?) or not depends on the browser and operating system you are using.  As Arch Dude says, if that is how you were saving articles (or pointers to articles), then the info is likely saved on your old device. 73.127.147.187 (talk) 07:10, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Naughton1237 has confirmed at User talk:PrimeHunter that it was about the app feature. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:23, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

How many contested speedy deletions are actually successful?
I've seen quite a few pages up for speedy deletion. Some of them have 'Contest this speedy deletion' buttons on their speedy deletion tags. However, when I go to the talk page, some of the contested speedy deletions don't address the reasons for deletion. Even if they do, most people who tag pages for speedy deletion understand the criteria. Most pages up for speedy deletion eventually get deleted, despite the existence of contested speedy deletion sections. So how often does a contested speedy deletion save the page from deletion? weeklyd3 (message me | my contributions) 02:17, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
 * In my experience: occasionally, but not often. When I evaluate a speedy I typically make my own decision about if the content matches the criteria. It's rare that anyone has contested it. Most of the time when they have, although I do read it, it doesn't change my mind. Only in borderline cases does it normally make a difference. That said, sometimes it can be used to highlight things the admin may not notice on their own. For example, one time there were a bunch of photos of Queen Elizabeth tagged as redundant duplicates. I would have deleted them because, at first glance they did seem like duplicates. However the talk page contestation pointed out that they weren't the same photo, but rather a series of stills from a video, and there were subtle differences between them. I would not have noticed that on my own. ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 04:04, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

How to make article in my sandbox live
Hi, I have created article/content (with proper sources & references) which is in my sandbox. How to make it live on Wikipedia ?

The article "Rajkumari Amrit Kaur College of Nursing, New Delhi" is about a public funded Nursing College established in 1946. There exit a wikipedia Blue link 'Rajkumari Amrit Kaur College of Nursing' but if you click it you get re-directed to the page of University of Delhi.

Please let me know regards Rathish — Preceding unsigned comment added by RathishN (talk • contribs) 04:57, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi . Unfortunately, your sandbox isn't ready (at least in my opinion) to be upgraded to article status. There are quite a number of formatting issues and style issues that probably need to be fixed first before it will even be ready for review. What I suggest you do is go to WP:AFC and click on . Since you've already been practicing in your sandbox, keep clicking on (make sure to carefully read through the information on each page) until you reach the "Common mistakes" page. This is an important page so make sure you carefully read through the information it contains and then click on whichever button applies to you. When you get to the "Draft creation" page, make sure you enter the name of the subject you want to create an article about where it says "Enter your draft name here". This will be, at least for the time being, the name of your draft; it can be changed later if needed. Once you've created the draft, it will be found at  . You can then copy-and-paste the content in your user sandbox into the new draft. After you've done that, I suggest you take a look at Help:Your first article, Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies), and Help:Referencing for beginners for some general information  that should help you understand (1) why certain subjects are OK to write Wikipedia articles about and (2) how articles are expected to be written and formatted. When you've straightened out the formatting and other issues of the draft and feel it's ready for review, just click on  and it will be reviewed. If the draft is accepted by a reviewer, they will take care of the redirect page issue. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:42, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

Redirect from misspelling
Hi, what is the policy on the English Wikipedia for redirects from misspellings? Is that done on purpose or did this happen by accident? --217.239.4.204 (talk) 05:49, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi IP 217.239.4.204. In some cases, a redirect may have been created if the misspelling is quite common as explained in the 12th bullet point of WP:RPURPOSE. My guess is that's what was done in the case of Mount McKinely, but perhaps such a redirect is no longer necessary since Mount McKinley now redirects to Denali. If you believe that to be the case, you can start a discussion about the redirect at WP:RFD. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:05, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Speaking as a mountaineer, it is clear to me that Denali is now the accepted name of the highest mountain peak in North America, located in Central Alaska. That being said, redirects of plausible misspellings should be maintained as a convenience to our readers. The existence of a redirect to the proper article title is in no way an endorsement of the incorrect name or spelling. It is an aid to readers. Cullen328 (talk) 06:16, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi IP editor. You may be interested to look at the history page of the misspelling, here. It was created in 2009 to assist readers searching using the wrong spelling and then in 2015 a bot came along to remove what are called double-redirects (i.e. it would be inefficient to go from "Mount McKinely" -> "Mount McKinley" -> "Denali"). Mount McKinley is itself now a redirect, of course. Redirects are cheap and tend to proliferate even when arguably obsolete, as in this case. Mike Turnbull (talk) 10:24, 14 June 2022 (UTC)


 * I marked it with R from misspellings. MKFI (talk) 13:18, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

Help clearing "check URL value" error
I can't figure out how to clear the "check URL value" error in reference number 6 in the article Kevin Van Winkle. It's a (valid) cite of a tweet. Can you help? Thanks and best wishes, Jeffrey Beall (talk) 10:31, 14 June 2022 (UTC).


 * @Jeffrey Beall The "user" parameter in the cite tweet needs to match the twitter account's username. In citation 6 it should be "ColoSenGOP" not "Colorado Senate Republicans". If you want to use the full name of the organisation as well this needs to go in the "author" parameter. 163.1.15.238 (talk) 11:11, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much indeed. This fix resolved the error. Jeffrey Beall (talk) 11:19, 14 June 2022 (UTC).

Specific policy or guideline about peacock links?
I'm sure I've read a guideline or policy many moons ago that basically said don't do 'fame by association' linking like in this example "Fred Bloggs was the camera operator on Wikipedia: The Movie starring Johnny Depp, Daniel Day-Lewis, Jack Nicholson, Dustin Hoffman, Tom Hanks and Directed by...etc" any ideas what I'm thinking of? - X201 (talk) 11:14, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
 * The closest I can find is the essay Identifying blatant advertising:


 * Name-dropping of more famous people, groups, media.
 * PrimeHunter (talk) 11:30, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I think it falls under WP:CONTEXT as even if Bloggs did operate the camera and it was relevant to his article to mention those he photographed, it would be over-linking and distracting to the reader to link all the names. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:33, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestions. My thoughts on it land in-between both suggestions. I wanted to succinctly point to something when trying to find a BLP editor to give a particular article a good shake. The article in question is Benson Taylor, which I've tried to prune the puffery out of every now and then, but now I think it needs an editor willing to attack it from the ground up. - X201 (talk) 13:28, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
 * It's not perfectly relevant to what you're asking, but could you be thinking of WP:INHERIT? CodeTalker (talk) 16:39, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

CREATING A WIKI BOOK
Hi. my brother has created over 1000 wiki pages, I know you can create a wiki book based on various subjects = how do I create on just based on who was the creator of the page? (basically -create an encyclopedia just of his pages thanks david — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.235.98.140 (talk) 12:04, 14 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, the book project was shut down last year. See Books for more information.  The box at the top of that page gives information on the shut down process.  ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 14:11, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
 * If you know his user name though, you can always look at his contributions and filter to page creations to see the pages he's created. You could then print those to pdf and save them that way. ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 14:13, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

template:pin section
I noticed several sections in some noticeboards that weren't being addressed for quite a while (such as this and this) and are pertty close to being automatically archived. Are there any rules about who is allowed to use or remove this template or when is it supposed to be used? Or is there anything else I should do to bring attention to these discussions? 67.21.154.193 (talk) 12:24, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

Linking Wikidata
Recently, I was attempting to replace a dead link and the only related information on any Wikimedia site was a Wikidata page. I attempted to use the regular format for linking Wiki articles but seemed to be unable to do so. How would I link a Wikidata article? And is it proper procedure to do so? --99.209.44.10 (talk) 13:33, 14 June 2022 (UTC)


 * If you were trying to replace a red link like this, and all you found was a Wikidata item, then probably the red link should be left, if it is a plausible subject for an article. There is general advice at Red link, but if you can provide the red link and the article, we could give more specific advice. TSventon (talk) 13:41, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Whoops, I had been removing red links, and will have to undo that. I promise it was in good faith, but it might take me/us a while to fix it because of unrelated reasons. -99.209.44.10 (talk) 13:48, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I believe red links were more useful when there were fewer articles and thus more gaps, but there is still WikiProject Women in Red, which aims to replace red links with articles about women. TSventon (talk) 14:16, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Unrelated article to that project -99.209.44.10 (talk) 14:22, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Redlinks are fine, they help people find articles to write. I find a high percentage of the articles I create as redlinks from other articles. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:25, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

Translation links conflict La Lupa (Swiss singer)
Hi people. This article is translated into for other languages, however the language linking is giving conflict with a Wikimedia page. Clould you please fix this, thank you. Equivalent pages in all five languages are: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Lupa https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Lupa_(cantante_suiza) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Lupa_(Swiss_singer) https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Lupa_(cantante) https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Lupa Neuralia (talk) 16:00, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I fixed this in Wikidata, so it links to those other articles. Seems like someone had created a duplicate in Wikidata. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:05, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

Change draft to official text
Hello, I'm creating the English page of a great Brazilian drummer, Tutty Moreno. However, I created in draft mode and now, to preserve what I've already done, I had to publish so as not to lose. I need to get out of draft mode and continue working on the text to actually publish the edited page. Can someone help me? I haven't finished it yet, maybe I need a few days to put all the references and information. Please, what do I do to withdraw from draft mode? ThanksRummiEnglish (talk) 18:06, 14 June 2022 (UTC)


 * @RummiEnglish "publish changes" should be interpreted as "save changes", it does not mean "publish to the main encyclopedia" (the button was renamed to this a couple years ago to remind everyone that pretty much anything here is publicly visible, provided that one knows where to look. I have added the appropriate information to allow you to submit the draft for review, as well as done a bit of syntax cleanup and removing an instance of that didn't apply. DISPLAYTITLE can only be used to do cosmetic changes to the page title, not change the title altogether. Changing the title completely requires a page move, which, in this case, is not generally recommended for new users. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 18:32, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok. Thank you. RummiEnglish (talk) 18:51, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

GETTING INFORMATION OR WRITE-UP IN WIKIPEDIA.
How do I get information about by socio-cultural organization in Wikipedia so that people can search and access information about this club? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:24A7:1410:D007:3E21:3827:603 (talk) 18:47, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello. You don't, because that's not what Wikipedia is for. Wikipedia is interested in what others say about your organization, not what it says about itself. 331dot (talk) 18:52, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

Shady Cove, Oregon
I am the City Administrator of the City of Shady Cove, Oregon. The information on your site describing our fair City is very old. IN fact, about 4 Mayors ago. :) What can we do to edit the information?

Thank you, Tom — Preceding unsigned comment added by City of Shady Cove (talk • contribs) 21:58, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
 * @City of Shady Cove: For one, change your username to something else, as it violates Wikipedia's username policy. Once that's done, please disclose your conflict of interest (and as you're doing it on behalf of the city, you must disclose a paid relationship. After that, you may make edit requests backed up by reliable sources on Talk:Shady Cove, Oregon. Please do not directly edit the article, unless it's to remove blatant vandalism. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:43, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
 * If you do not know how to change your username, follow the instructions at WP:CHU.  interstate five   23:02, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

How to "wrap" a table based on the device width?
The following table (with football kit box templates inside each cell) looks fine on desktop view. However, on mobile view, horizontal scrolling is needed to view all the cells. I've been told that scrolling is discouraged. How can I fix the issue? Nehme1499 22:23, 14 June 2022 (UTC)


 * The below uses Help:Table. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:41, 14 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Looks great, thanks! Nehme<b style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:80%;color:#27B382">1499</b> 23:49, 14 June 2022 (UTC)