Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2022 June 16

= June 16 =

what redirects here?
It used to be that What links here would also show redirects. Now it doesn't. Or at least I don't know how. We could have a What redirects here, though. Gah4 (talk) 01:45, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * @Gah4 It does show redirects and transclusions. The options to show/hide redirects, links and transclusions are in the collapsible box at the top of the page. 192.76.8.94 (talk) 01:47, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * OK, I was used to the not collapsed form, and couldn't figure out where it went. But the reason I asked, is that I knew it was supposed to be there. Some people might not, and also might not know to look in the collapsed box. I wonder how many other things I don't know where are. Thanks, though. Gah4 (talk) 05:09, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * "What links here" is a poor title for hidden options on a what links here page. It's discussed in T310014: "Improve the title of the whatlinkshere filter control box". PrimeHunter (talk) 20:47, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Well you might have noticed the title of this section. I had thought along with the "What links here", we could have "What redirects here" on the left side of the page. Gah4 (talk) 21:54, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * "What links here" is a poor title for hidden options on a what links here page. It's discussed in T310014: "Improve the title of the whatlinkshere filter control box". PrimeHunter (talk) 20:47, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Well you might have noticed the title of this section. I had thought along with the "What links here", we could have "What redirects here" on the left side of the page. Gah4 (talk) 21:54, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Well you might have noticed the title of this section. I had thought along with the "What links here", we could have "What redirects here" on the left side of the page. Gah4 (talk) 21:54, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Well you might have noticed the title of this section. I had thought along with the "What links here", we could have "What redirects here" on the left side of the page. Gah4 (talk) 21:54, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

How to change an article/topic identifier
Folks:

I'm new to the program. I've been updating the 'drawback' page to ensure it provide the most accurate and up to date information. However, the title itself, 'Drawback,' is lacking. It should be 'Duty Drawback.'

How do I change it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Drawback&oldid=1092055448

Tks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lauren1453 (talk • contribs) 01:46, 16 June 2022 (UTC)


 * @Lauren1453 To change the title of a page you need to move it. To move pages you need to have made 10 edits and had an account for 4 days. Since you don't meet those requirements yet you can go to Requested moves and ask another editor to move it for you, you can use technical requests if you think the move is uncontroversial, or you can use the controversial moves section to start a discussion if you think other people are likely to disagree. 192.76.8.94 (talk) 01:53, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello, . In order to change the title, you will need to provide evidence that "Drawback" is somehow inaccurate, misleading and not frequently used by reliable sources discussing this topic, and that "Duty drawback" is by far the more common term used by reliable sources. So, assemble your evidence. Be rigorously objective and do not skew the evidence in favor of your preferred outcome. Cullen328 (talk) 04:07, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Google 'drawback' and 'duty drawback' and see which inquiry returns relevant content; that alone will demonstrate how the trade community at large uses the term. 'Drawback' alone is not accurate, plain and simple. Lauren1453 (talk) 14:22, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * As a Brit, I had never heard of the term "drawback" used in any other sense than "a disadvantage", as per wiktionary or "draw back" meaning "withdraw", so I think that moving to Duty drawback, with the existing disambiguation for drawback would be sensible. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:03, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Template:Commons Category
On Teasmade, this template appears correctly placed, at the head of the References section. Viewed on my mobile device (iPhone SE type 2), references text is constrained into a column 2-3 characters wide and therefore totally unreadable. How do I fix this? Thanks Nick Levine (talk) 07:16, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Which browser are you using? It looks fine in Safari on my iPhone 8 in both desktop and mobile view. - X201 (talk) 08:15, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Desktop view in Safari. Would you like a screenshot? Nick Levine (talk) 09:07, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I've just noticed that the references in that article are just bare URLs that are actually in the reflist template. I wonder if that could be interfering with text positioning and line breaking etc? - X201 (talk) 10:06, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I can confirm this on narrow screens, both in Monobook and in the standard Vector skin. —Kusma (talk) 10:21, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * @Nick Levine: Fixed. See Template:Commons_category for instructions. —Kusma (talk) 10:24, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I’d read the template page but that setting wasn’t clear. Nick Levine (talk) 22:40, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Restarting account.
Help me in the restarting account process, I am stuck. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 105.160.12.163 (talk) 13:09, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Please clarify what you are referring to. 331dot (talk) 13:11, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Actual question section
hi everyone. I have a simple formatting question, about our old friend, template:navbox. how would I put a simple horizontal bar across the navbox, with some text inside it, to delineate a separate section?

please note, this bar does not need to be the top of a collapsible section; it is simply for visual purposes only, in separating one part of the navbox from the other parts.

appreciate any help. if you want, you can simply link me to an existing navbox which would have this feature. thanks! --Sm8900 (talk) 13:25, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * @Sm8900 You can use a "list" without a group to do this, e.g.

produces

192.76.8.94 (talk) 13:57, 16 June 2022 (UTC)


 * hm, ok, that looks excellent, IP editor. one question; is there any way to add just a bit of shading to that bar? thanks!! Sm8900 (talk) 14:03, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

yes, you can use the list"n"style parameters to set the colouring of particular groups, e.g.

will make the bar silver

192.76.8.94 (talk) 14:10, 16 June 2022 (UTC)


 * holy smokes, that's brilliant, IP editor. thanks so much! by the way, can I please suggest that you add your great advice above to the documentation for template:navbox? I think your info is highly useful. but anyway, this is truly helpful. great info! thanks! --Sm8900 (talk) 14:13, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

sample coding
copying your helpful sample code, below for experimentation. --Sm8900 (talk) 14:08, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * ok, I tried the code below for shading, but as you can see it changed shading for all of the groups./ hm. I would be open to any tips you may have. thanks! --Sm8900 (talk) 14:09, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

| liststyle = background: silver;

sandbox section
produces

--Sm8900 (talk) 14:05, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * You can set  to change the background for list2 only. -- John of Reading (talk) 14:10, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * As the IP demonstrated, just five seconds before I saved that comment... -- John of Reading (talk) 14:14, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * @John of Reading, lol, yes, I guess that great minds think alike. it's truly helpful to have your input here as well. thanks! by the way, I left our IP Editor friend some thanks of sorts, on their talk page. I appreciate your help. are you highly familiar with editing and coding for navboxes? maybe I can use your help, actually. are you active at all at the wikimedia site? --Sm8900 (talk) 14:19, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Not "highly familiar"; I found "list2style" by reading the documentation. I'm not active at meta. -- John of Reading (talk) 14:25, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

New question re color codes
hi all. ok. sorry, but here are some new questions. FYI, I am trying to review the page Help:Using colours, in order to learn some of this, but I could still use some assistance. thanks very much.

edit: ok, I found some useful data here: Help:Using_colours. feel free to answer below, though. thanks!


 * (A) where would I find a list of names that i can use to indicate the color, for the formatting shown above for a horizontal bar?
 * (B) how would I use a numerical color code for the formatting above, eg such as the color code 708ECF?

I appreciate any help. thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 15:44, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * You should find all that you need at color, . Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:51, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi @Michael D. Turnbull. well I appreciate your reply, but what I need is a full, specific detailed list of the actual names to be used for colors. i don't happen to see that data at the link above that you provided, so please feel free to clarify further. however, I did find the page Manual of Style/Accessibility/Colors, and there does seem to be a list of that sort, so I am giving that a try to see if I can use that data.
 * if you have any other links or info, I could use that as well. thanks! --Sm8900 (talk) 16:02, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * The article at web colors has everything under the sun (or at least, those capable of being rendered in browsers!). Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:06, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * @Sm8900 Web colors lists all the named colours. To use a hex colour code you need to preface it with a hash like so: . 192.76.8.94 (talk) 16:14, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * ok, that si very helpful data, from both of you. much appreciated. i think I'm getting there, thanks to you. thanks! Sm8900 (talk) 16:18, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Login.
Help in loging in to my account. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 105.160.12.163 (talk) 13:38, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * What is the nature of the difficulty you are having? 331dot (talk) 13:42, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Does Help:logging in contain anything that helps? 192.76.8.94 (talk) 13:59, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

A move request?
Hello all! I just edited on American Journal of Physical Anthropology, the scientific journal has been renamed some weeks or months ago. I do not understand Requested moves and the things related to it (i am de-N, en-2). Can You help me? Thanks in advance. --Himbeerbläuling (talk) 17:23, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Your can be bold and rename the article yourself. Ruslik_ Zero 20:46, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I have renamed the article and changed a few things (everything that said Physical Anthropology now says Biological Anthropology, but I think you should go through it again. I noticed a *lot* of the links to Wiley were http: links, they should be replaced with the new locations which are https: (and it isn't just adding an s, the https locations are in different places). Let me know if you have any questions.Naraht (talk) 14:18, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Language Codes
Where is there a list of what languages the usually-2-character language codes represent? I know that, for instance, .en is English, .de is German, .fr is French. If I see a link to .he or .bn, how do I look up what languages those are? Robert McClenon (talk) 21:18, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * List of ISO 639-1 codes. Since that (and ISO 639-1) is hard to remember, it's linked from language code.  In Wikimedia-specific context, m:Template:List of language names ordered by code. —Cryptic 21:26, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * For lists of all language tags (ISO 639-1, -2, -3, IETF forms, and 'special') supported by cs1|2 templates see: Template:Citation Style documentation/language/doc. These are all the tags supported by MediaWiki; they are a small subset of all possible language tags.
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 22:06, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 22:06, 16 June 2022 (UTC)