Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2022 June 24

= June 24 =

Source of information.
I read the wiki page on racism in Israel. How do you know that this is not just opinion? It is clearly bias, racist, anti Zionist article. What are your methods for clarification? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:7000:1300:8B95:61E9:3E85:E243:BF2 (talk) 01:58, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
 * The content on the article is based off of the citations that follow them. If you have concerns about the reliability of the sources, please discuss them at either WP:RSN or the article's talk page. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:55, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Tang Xianhu
I created this page Tang Xianhu and it passes the review. But on Google, it still shows a draft and then redirects to the main page. Can you help to publish it as a main and not as a redirect? Oahid (talk) 02:42, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
 * @Oahid: New articles aren't indexed by search engines until 90 days have passed or a new pages patroller approves it, whichever comes first. It's already in mainspace. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:56, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
 * okay got it, thanks! Oahid (talk) 03:04, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Is there a way to not mark rollbacks as minor
Somehow, when I rollback, it is marked as a minor edit. Is there a way to disable this (so that Huggle rollbacks won't be minor)? I can't find anything in the preferences that enables this. weeklyd3 (message me | my contributions) 06:23, 24 June 2022 (UTC)


 * I don't think so: see WP:MINOR. If you really don't think a rollback is minor just undo the last edit the old fashioned way and add an edit summary. Shantavira|feed me 08:21, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Logo picture sizes
Hello Dear Sir/Madam,

I hope you are having a great day/night, depending on your time zone.

Writting this letter in order to explain an issue i recognized earlier. I was reading through articles in wikipedia and i recognized that some logo pictures on numereous amount of pages are sized wrong: some of them are too big to fit in the frame, some of them are too small and lose quality. My question is - what should be a perfect size for picture to be fully optimized in frame of wikipedia, so there wont be any size issues and lose of quality?

Looking forward to your reply,

Best Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Denzo9909 (talk • contribs) 07:19, 24 June 2022 (UTC)


 * It would help if you could give some examples. The aspect ratio can affect how an image appears in the infobox. It is possible to adjust the size manually.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 07:32, 24 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi Denzo9909 - Logos are, almost always, copyright, so can only be used under a claim of fair use. As stated at WP:FILESIZE "If the image is copyrighted and used under fair use, the uploaded image must be as low-resolution as possible consistent with its fair-use rationale". I can't find the guideline at the moment, but somewhere it states that, for free use, it should be not more than 300 px on one side.  This means that very detailed logos will lose some of their detail.  Conversely, if uploaded less than 200 px wide, it will not display in the infobox correctly, without using an image size parameter. This then magnifies a less detailed image, giving poor quality. - hope that helps - Arjayay (talk) 14:17, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
 * However, these days fair-use files are automatically shrunken by a bot after awhile, so uploading a whetever res logo works too. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:43, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

When will be my page publish?
I have created an account with the name of Zorawar Singh (Jump Rope Expert). Cab you please help me out to resolve the issue if there is an issue. PLease review the page and try to update it soon either provide the sufficient information how many time it takes to update. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zorawar Singh (Jump Rope Expert) (talk • contribs) 07:34, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
 * @Zorawar Singh (Jump Rope Expert): You are strongly discouraged from writing about yourself and many of the sources you have used aren't appropriate as reliable sources. I suggest you use another website, as Wikipedia is not something to promote yourself. It is virtually guaranteed to be declined or rejected. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 13:55, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
 * You created a draft article on your userpage. That is not allowed and the draft was liable for speedy deletion (under WP:U5, "blatant misuse of Wikipedia as a web host"). To avoid this, I moved it to Draft:Zorawar Singh.
 * If you are not Zorawar Singh, you will need to change your username (see WP:REALNAME for why, and go to WP:CHUS to request the change).
 * You will need to provide suitable references that show this person is "notable". See WP:GNG for the details, but 99% of the time (for living people), that means newspaper articles that were written without relying solely on what the subject says. Online newspapers that just link to or reproduce an Instagram video do not count. If you cannot find such sources, you should not spend any more time working on the draft, it will not be accepted no matter how polished it is.
 * If you are Zorawar Singh, you should avoid editing the draft yourself (see our advice about autobiographies). Similar advice applies if you are related to them (family member, friend, colleague...) - see WP:COI. Tigraan Click here for my talk page ("private" contact) 13:56, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
 * @Zorawar Singh (Jump Rope Expert) - Please see Help:Your first article for lots of helpful information, and instructions on submitting your draft for review. Happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 20:09, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

MfD question
I noticed that an MfD showed up in the Article Alerts at WP:POD. So I commented at the discussion here, but as far as I can tell no one opened it and there was no rationale for deletion. Since I commented the Article Alert now says "MfDed was closed by TipsyElephant", however, I've never closed a deletion discussion before and don't even know how. What happened and why? TipsyElephant (talk) 13:18, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
 * WikiProject Podcasting/Assessment transcludes Content assessment/A-Class criteria which was MfD'ed in . The next edit added noinclude tags to avoid side effects on other pages. Is it OK if I delete Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Podcasting/Assessment? PrimeHunter (talk) 14:01, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
 * yeah, go for it. Will it continue to show up in the Article Alerts? TipsyElephant (talk) 15:15, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I have deleted it and removed it from WikiProject Podcasting/Article alerts. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:26, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
 * The bot has readded it to WikiProject Podcasting/Article alerts. I don't know where the bot gets the data from now. Maybe it was saved offline earlier. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:18, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Saint-Antoine-l'Abbaye
Hi, I need help for Abbey of Saint-Antoine-l'Abbaye and Abbey church of Saint-Antoine-l'Abbaye, specially about style, spelling and grammar. Both articles are translated from the French. We had a workshop last week-end, where we took more than 1000 pictures of the church and the village, so pictures will be added soon. I will add references when I find them (not easy). Thanks, Yann (talk) 16:15, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
 * The church article is almost entirely unreferenced. Have you considered slimming it down somewhat and merging it into the Abbey's article, in a section entitled Church? TimTempleton (talk)  (cont)  22:51, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi! I looked over the articles and did some editing. I also started some threads on the Abbey talk page. Birdsinthewindow (talk) 03:11, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Jackie DeAngelis
In her Wikipedia Biography - you have two (2) mistakes:

1). On one (1) it is stated that Jackie is of SPANISH origin.

2). On another page it is stated in a      that Jackie is Black.

Both wrongful mistakes are egregiously inaccurate. The SUR NAME “DEANGELIS” is of Italian Origin - not Spanish or Black. Please correct her Bio.

Thank You Jerry Coccoli Hudson Yards, NYC — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:7000:4B3E:318E:CCB1:50D8:FD80:3666 (talk) 17:32, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Please direct these comments to the article talk page. Note that a black Spanish person with an Italian name is not an impossibility, especially for a woman. 331dot (talk) 18:12, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what content the IP editor is referring to. Do we have an biography on Jackie DeAngelis? That article was deleted in 2012 as copyright infringement. RoxySaunders 🏳️‍⚧️ (talk · contribs) 18:53, 24 June 2022 (UTC)


 * [Edit conflict] Hello, Jerry. English-language Wikipedia does not have an article titled Jackie DeAngelis (which is why that 'wikilink' is red). Can you clarify who you mean (for me, online search results for the name are dominated by a US journalist) and where you have seen this 'Wikipedia biography'? (A link would be helpful.) {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.201.73.76 (talk) 18:56, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
 * No trace of her, after a sock-related deletion in January 2021. And the "another page" comment makes me think this isn't a Wikipedia issue. TimTempleton (talk) (cont)  22:58, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

C-Class Articles
Hello! I have an article that I have created titled Igoeti that is currently graded as Start-Class. Recently, I have been editing this article thoroughly and feel that it may qualify as a C-Class article. Is there any way to have this checked? Thanks! 𝙷𝚎𝚕𝚕𝚘𝚑𝚎𝚊𝚛𝚝 (𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔) 22:07, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Perhaps ask at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Georgia_(country). -Arch dude (talk) 22:13, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Adding Vega chart to article
Hi, I've made a stacked bar chart of electricity usage in Victoria using the Vega graphing tool to add to Energy in Victoria here User:Robert Merkel/GraphTest. Obviously, I could just cut and paste the markup into the article, but it might be nice to able to reuse the chart elsewhere, and I'd also like to add captions and sourcing. Can I add the chart to Wikimedia Commons, and then use it in the article, and if so how? --Robert Merkel (talk) 23:15, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
 * What is the "Vega graphing tool"? if you are trying to replicate your work at User:Robert Merkel/GraphTest, then I do not think you can directly use the syntax of a English Wikipedia template in a Commons file. If I were trying to do this, I would use gnuplot on my home computer, emit an SVG file, and upload the SVG file to Commons. Converting your template into a gnuplot input file should be straightforward, gnuplot should allow you to create an output that is visually very similar to your template. You can document your work by adding the gnuplot input as part of the file description at Commons. -Arch dude (talk) 15:16, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Here is an example of documenting a file on Commons generated using Gnuplot: c:2012_meningitis_cases.svg. There are probably better ways to do it.-Arch dude (talk) 15:24, 25 June 2022 (UTC)