Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2022 May 10

= May 10 =

WP:VANDAL
My IP is blocked. How can I report a vandal to a page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.229.154.182 (talk) 09:19, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * That you were able to post here shows you are not blocked. Vandal reports may be made at WP:AIV. Mjroots (talk) 10:02, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Mjroots, I believe the IP is questioning edits made to the Ted Stamm article by this 185.167.77.136 IP - which is under extended protection, so it's entirely possible they are unable to edit that particular article which they (assuming a new user) may have mistaken for being blocked. Chaheel Riens (talk) 12:47, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * @Chaheel Riens: 185.167.77.136 has been blocked under suspicion as a proxy. There are instructions on the block notice if the block was applied in error. — Tenryuu 🐲  ( 💬 • 📝 ) 13:03, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * 185.229.154.182 - if an article is semi-protected, such as the Ted Stamm article is, then the talk page (in this case talk:Ted Stamm) should be available for you to use. Mjroots (talk) 13:04, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Tenryuu, I knew that, but it wasn't pertinent to the OP's original comment. I was just pointing out the reasoning as to why the IP may have thought they were blocked if they were trying to edit an EP article, which also has relevance to Mjroots' comment above - if they thought they were blocked, it may not have occurred to them to try the talk page.  Chaheel Riens (talk) 13:34, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

I want to publish my page
I want to publish my page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ngplm (talk • contribs) 11:53, 10 May 2022 (UTC)


 * The standard advice of your first article applies here. Please bear in mind that Wikipedia is not Facebook or LinkedIn, so if the article is about yourself, your organisation (such as Draft:Naveena Group) etc it is unlikely to be published unless it meets Wikipedia guidelines.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 12:15, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * OP blocked as a WP:SOCK. Mike Turnbull (talk) 22:12, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Inconsistent Editing templates
When I edit pages, it is inconsistent which templates I have above the edit window. I always have the template in grey brown that is two rows for which the top row starts out Undo arrow, redo arrow, B in Bold, I in Italics, U in Underline S with strike. *Sometimes* I get the light grey template above that that has a single row that starts Bold, Italics Signature and timestamp, Link, images and media and ends with "Advanced" "Special characters" "Help" "Cite" with menu arrows on the four. Any idea what I can do to make the light grey template occur always?Naraht (talk) 13:24, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * They are called toolbars. The first you describe is wikEd. Registered users can enable it at Special:Preferences. It's disabled by default and unregistered users don't have it. The other toolbar is the default RefToolbar/2.0. Both toolbars use JavaScript and can fail if there are issues with JavaScript in the gadgets you enable, or the scripts in User:Naraht/common.js, and either User:Naraht/vector.js or User:Naraht/monobook.js if your skin is Vector or MonoBook. What is your skin at Special:Preferences? If you log out (just temporarily for testing without saving edits) then does the default toolbar appear consistently? What if you are logged in but disable wikEd in preferences? PrimeHunter (talk) 17:48, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * My skin is Vector Legacy (I've been working here since 2005. :) ). WikEd doesn't appear to be giving me problems. RefToolbar appears to be the one not showing up all of the time. It seems to be worse when I open multiple windows for editing in quick succession. I'll trying updating to the new Vector and move things over to see if that helps. If it doesn't I'll try logging out and seeing if that makes it show up consistently.Naraht (talk) 18:09, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I've moved to Vector 2022. Not sure if it was true before or not, but it appears that my browser simply can't handle if the RefToolbar is loading into two tabs at the same time. If I edit source an article and wait for it to fully come up before I edit source another one then it appears that RefToolbar comes up consistently. May be worthwhile to see if this is a Chrome issue or something else. With the knowledge you have given me and my results, it might be worthwhile to go over to WP:VPT for more info.Naraht (talk) 18:22, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Rules i guess
Am i allowed to make an article on my own short story or even youtubers? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DevDrawn (talk • contribs) 14:18, 10 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello Dev! The answer to your questions are, for your own short story, definitely no. Per WP:FORUM and WP:1DAY, Wikipedia is not for things you just made up one day. Youtubers, while some do have articles here on Wikipedia, usually they haven't been determined to be notable enough to get their own article. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 14:20, 10 May 2022 (UTC)


 * The most fundamental "rule": Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. If a subject is notable by our definition (WP:N), then we want to have an article about it. If a subject in not notable by our definition, then we do not want an article about it and we will delete any attempt to create such an article. We have evolved a lot of secondary "rules" to support this basic rule. -Arch dude (talk) 15:19, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Your short story would have to be talked about in published, reliable sources, independent of you, and you would have to ask somebody else to write it, as writing with a conflict of interest is not encouraged. It would probably sound like an advertisement. The same applies to YouTubers, but also with the biographies of living persons guidelines. I would also recommend on your first article to go through the articles for creation process, so people can review your potential articles and give you suggestions for improvement.
 * Asparagusus  (interaction)  18:33, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

edit draft title
Hello Wiki Community: I can use some assistance to edit a draft title. One word needs to be changed and I haven't been able to figure it out yet. Thanks for your help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by AvonMooch (talk • contribs) 16:18, 10 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello, AvonMooch. In general, you change the title of an article or other page by moving it. But in general, it's not worth bothering about moving a draft to a better title: the title won't affect the review process, and the reviewing editor who accepts the draft will move it to an appropriately-titled article. I guess this is about Draft:David J. Brown (artist)? ColinFine (talk) 16:51, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi ColinFine: Correct on the draft DJB (artist) in question and thanks for the info. I'll leave it be. AM AvonMooch (talk) 15:17, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Making edits to someone's information
I am tasked in my job with updating my new Director's Wikipedia page. I have submitted some changes via the Talk tab. How can I get the page updated? The article is Deborah Frincke. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Almacka (talk • contribs) 18:35, 10 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello Almacka! All you must do now is wait for an editor to see your request. I've added a COI edit request template to it which will help bring attention to it. In the meantime, please read WP:COI and WP:PAID. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 18:39, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

I have edited your post replacing the bare URL with a wikilink. --CiaPan (talk) 19:09, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Almacka, BTW, you--and perhaps more importantly, your director--need to know this. It's not your "Director's Wikipedia page."  It is an article about your Director, ideally written by people with no connection to your Director, and neither owned or controlled by your Director.  Anybody may edit the article, and as long as the rules are followed (the rules ARE particularly strict for articles about living people), those edits are likely to stand at least until the next person edits.  And that will have nothing to do with whether your Director likes the edits or not. Uporządnicki (talk) 14:26, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Article for Deletion - Done Wrong Mestizos in the United States
The editor User:Koire292 has attempted to nominate Mestizos in the United States for deletion. They are a new user so they are not yet registered. They have already added the Deletion Template on the page and linked it to an page named Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mestizos in the United States. I had thought about nominating the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mestizos in the United States for a SD and then removing the Deletion Template on Mestizos in the United States, but that does not feel like the right thing to do. I'm not great at the coding part of Wikipedia and I am unsure of what to do from here. I feel the user has a right to express their opinion that they want this article deleted. I just don't know how to help them from here. Can someone else provide assistance? Thank you,-- VViking Talk Edits 22:52, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Your comment here and on the user's talk page is confusing. Why do you think this user is not registered and logged in?  RudolfRed (talk) 23:54, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * The AfD is malformed, which needs fixing. Other than that, you can't prevent an article from being nominated for deletion... Although it seems that the user is more looking for the term to be removed. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 23:58, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I've gone ahead and fixed the nomination as a courtesy, though I strongly suspect that the nominator won't get the result that they're looking for. --Finngall talk  00:27, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
 * @Viewmont Viking Right, since Koire292 has a username, they are "registered". And Finngall is probably right. 73.127.147.187 (talk) 07:26, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
 * @User:RudolfRed, @User:Lee Vilenski, @User:Finngall Rudolfred, my apologies for stating they did not have a registered account, for some reason when I saw registered account I was thinking it meant a Confirmed account. Vilenski, as for me preventing User:Koire292 from nominating the article, that was never my intention, my intention was to ensure the article got nominated for them. Thank you Finngall, I appreciate you correcting it as a courtesy, I also don't think it the nominator will get the result they are looking for, but at least they have the opportunity to try. -- VViking Talk Edits 13:18, 11 May 2022 (UTC)