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Hello Wikipedia Help Desk.

I need your help!

I haven't used my account for a number of years and now I am really confused about my gmail, username and password.

To make things worse, I tried to set up a new account and confused myself further.

Would you help me please. I want to add to "Rudy Buttignol".

Many thanks.

Sofiabrampton — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:3D08:447F:AEA0:0:0:0:8071 (talk) 02:31, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
 * User:Sofiabrampton has not specified an email address. Passwords never expire. If you don't know the password then you cannot gain access to the account. You can create a new account with a different name and say on the two user pages that you are the same user. Most articles including Rudy Buttignol can be edited without logging in. This will show your current IP address in the page history. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:04, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

how to create Wikipedia Page- Guinness World Record Holder
Dear Team,

I am Guinness World Record Holder for longest laughter yoga marathon 36 Hours 2 minutes how can i make page for myself

Could you please guide me step by step process how to create Wiki Pedia page for Guinness World record Holder.

Thanks Dr.Harish Rawat — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clinicalharish (talk • contribs) 07:49, 20 May 2022 (UTC)


 * I doubt very much whether that would be appropriate for Wikipedia. If you still want to try, please first carefully read WP:AUTO and WP:YFA. Shantavira|feed me 08:47, 20 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia does not have "pages", it has articles, typically written by independent editors. While not forbidden, autobiographical articles are highly discouraged(see the policies linked to just above this message), as people naturally write favorably about themselves. It is also difficult for people to set aside what they know about themselves and only summarize what independent reliable sources say about them, showing how they meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable person. There would need to be significant, in depth coverage of you that is not just interviews with you, about your life and your record-holding(not just an announcement). 331dot (talk) 08:53, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks you so much for your valuable response.
 * Please suggest me can i write Notable person if yes then what are basic step need to follow
 * This is my link who authenticate about my record.
 * Link : https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/95825-longest-marathon-laughter-therapy-class
 * https://ndtv.in/zara-hatke/special-story-on-laughter-yoga-guru-and-gunnies-world-record-holder-dr-harish-rawat-2514662
 * https://www.bepositive.online/dr-harish-rawat-laughter-yoga/
 * Please guide me
 * Regards
 * Harish Rawat Clinicalharish (talk) 08:37, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Creating a new article is the hardest task one can attempt to do on Wikipedia, and it's even harder for those in your situation. Typically, an article is written by an independent editor that takes note of a topic receiving significant coverage in independent reliable sources and chooses on their own to write about it. That occurring is usually a strong indicator of notability. A topic trying to force the issue- as you are doing- is not often successful. The best thing you can do here is abandon attempting to write about yourself and let independent editors wholly unconnected with you do so in time.  You should also be advised that an article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing.  There are good reasons to not want one.  Someone could vandalize an article about you to say bad things about you, and although it would be removed, it would still be visible for a time. Any article about you could have any and all information about you from independent reliable sources, whether it is good or bad. Any article about you will not necessarily say what you want it to say, and you cannot prevent others from editing it just because.
 * I don't doubt that you hold the record that you say you do. You need, however, independent reliable sources with significant coverage of you, and not just telling that you obtained the record. That coverage can't be just an interview with you, but a news outlet that decides to write about you and study your life on their own. If you really think that you have the sources that do that, you may draft and submit an article at Articles for Creation.  331dot (talk) 08:58, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Really appreciate your efforts to respond me .Gratitude for that.
 * Hope one day I will be in Wikipedia ,
 * This is just humble request if you know some one who can write on me its really appreciated.
 * sending my profile :


 * Full Profile:
 * Dr.Harish Rawat is an international  Laughter Yoga Guru and Founder of Lot of Laughter Yoga Foundation in India; who engaged in conducting Laughter wellness sessions in different sections of society including school, colleges, corporate, slums, defense, societies and even prison .More then 60 k people took beneficially from his sessions.
 * Dr. Harish Rawat is Phd in alternative medicine, Masters in Pharmaceutical Bio tech ,Bachelor in Pharmacy.
 * Research Paper:  Dr. Harish Rawat had also published a research paper on Yoga “HOW SUDHARSHAN KRIYA HELPS TO REDUCE THE HABIT OF SMOKING AND MOTIVATE TO QUIT SMOKING”- International Journal of Pharmaceutical Sciences Review and Research
 * Author Of Book
 * 1) Laughter Therapy For Depression by Dr. Harish Rawat
 * 2) The Magic of Laughter in positive affirmation by Dr. Harish Rawat
 * Dr. Harish Rawat’s  Laughter yoga sessions are covered by various media platforms such as  DD Sports National TV ,Anjan TV (National TV),TEN News, MS TV,Gee News, Navbharat Times , TOI ,HT , News18 Hindi, Khabardaar TV ,Viral india ,Kalki News and Delhi Darpan news channel..
 * He has an intense passion to connect with people, creating opportunities for inner peace and global peace.
 * *Few Achievement* :
 * 1) Guinness World Record Holder –Longest Laughter Yoga Marathon  36 Hours 02 Minutes For Mission World Peace
 * 2)Tata Volunteer Champion Award (TVW7)-March 2017 Tata Sustainability Group
 * 3) Rx karmveer chakra Award silver Global Fellowship Partnership with United Nation
 * 4) Limca Book of World Record Holder
 * 5)Best of India Record  Holder
 * 6) International Certified Laughter Yoa Coach
 * 7) Art of Living Teacher ( Last 9 years)
 * 8) AMBASSADOR OF CHANGE  AWARD 2018 BY Nidhi Foundation
 * 9) Speaker @Midas Talks
 * 10)Laughter Yoga Facilitator in Speak out solutions
 * 11) Society Development Award 2019
 * 12)Speaker @Ignite Talks
 * 13)Appreciation Award for conducting laughter yoga in Well Being NGO
 * 14) Corporate Appreciation Award from Tata Group
 * 15) Weaving Dream Excellence Award For conducting laughter yoga session 2019
 * 16)Kerala Book of  Record
 * 18)Yoga Certify from PMKY (Pradhan Mantri Kaushal Vikas Yojana, Ministry of Skill Development and Entrepreneurship (MSDE)
 * 19) Mentor and key Speaker at Socio story Platform
 * 20) Speaker at ITalks Circle
 * 21) Appointed as Peace Ambassador at Gandhi Peace Foundation Nepal
 * 22) Laughter Speaker @Holistic Insight Forum
 * 23) Awarded by Yoga Lover Trust for Spreading Laughter yoga 2019
 * 24) Guest Speaker@ENNOGY2k19Delhi Institute of Tool and Engineering Govt of India
 * 25)  kalki News Gaurav Award jan2020
 * 26 ) Laughter speaker @YES Ngo (Guest of Honor)
 * 27) Certification of Appreciation for conducting Laughter Yoga Session@ Rotary Club Delhi
 * 28) Laughter Yoga Facilitator in Zorba the Buddha Delhi
 * 29) Indian star Book of Record Holder
 * 30) World Book of Talent Record for conducting laughter Yoga session
 * 31) Guest Speaker-Laughter empowering minds society for research & development
 * 32) Awardee For Skill Minds Appreciation Award 2020 (skill Mind Young India changemaker Award 2020)
 * 33) Fitness Icon Award 2020 Uttar Pardesh Pardesh World Record s
 * 34) Hounorable doctorate from Hope International World Record
 * 35) Appreciation certificate from National Association of Blind
 * 36) Certification of Appreciation Conducting online laughter yoga session by Dashansh NGO
 * 37) Certification of humanity From Maisewa Foundation for conducting online laughter yoga session (Corona warriors)
 * 38) Certification of Appreciation Corona Warriors For conducting online laughter yoga session by Anand Birat Trust
 * 39) Certification of Dedication to conducting online laughter yoga session from Sports &Culture Development Foundation Punjab
 * 40) Certification of appreciation for conducting online laughter yoga session from International Institute of Lifestyle Management kolkata india
 * 41) Certification of appreciation for conducting online laughter yoga session from WSTR DAAN FOUNDATION
 * 42) Certification of appreciation (Peace Ambassador)for conducting online laughter yoga session from Sach ki Dastak Magazine
 * 43) Certification of appreciation for conducting online laughter yoga session from Skill Mind Special Foundation
 * 44) Certification of appreciation for conducting online laughter yoga session from Young Mind and HR India Group
 * 45) Certification of appreciation For conducting Online yoga class @6th International Day of Yoga by Yoga certification Board Ministry of Ayush Govt of India
 * 46) 3rd Icon Excellence Award Certification of Excellence For valuable contribution to spread Health Wellness in Laughter yoga by Yoga Lovers Trust Delhi july-2020
 * 47) Eminent Speaker Appreciation Certificate @Virtual International Education summit 07-Aug2020
 * 48) Appreciation Certificate From GD Goenka University for conducting laughter therapy session on Mental Health Day 2020
 * 49) Certificate of Recognition For conducting Laughter therapy session @Poetric Atma supported by Atmanirbar Bharat (Dan utsav-Mental Health Series)
 * 50) Eminent Speaker @The 1st online Mental Health Awareness Carnival 2020
 * 51) AMBASSADOR OF CHANGE  AWARD 2018 BY Nidhi Foundation
 * 52) Best of India Record Holder
 * 53) Guest Professor @Bada  Business pvt Ltd Dr. Vivak Bindra Foundation
 * 54) Fitness Icon Award 2021 Uttar PardeshPardeshWorld Record s (21-Jun-2021)
 * 55)International Humanitarian Award  By Jiwandayini Multipurpose Foundation 23-Jun-2021
 * 56)Yoga Volunteer Certificate  by The Yoga Certificate Board Ministry of Ayush#Certificate no:P25543 year-2021
 * 57)Yoga Appreciation Award  by The Yoga Certificate Board Ministry of Ayush certificate #CYAP25543 Year-2021
 * 58)Fit India Movement Appreciation Award  by The Yoga Certificate Board Ministry of Ayush certificate #FIT5586 Year-2021
 * 59)Corona Yodha Samman -By Samvad News 05-Jun-2021
 * 60) Corona Yodha Samman -By Quick News 02-Jun-2021
 * 61)Certificate of Humanity ( Corona Warrior Award) By Kanti Devi Smiriti sewa Sansthan 29-May-2021
 * 62)Certificate of Appreciation  for conducting Laughter Yoga session for German Health care conducted by Health Prax (HPX)German
 * 63) Certificate of Appreciation  for conducting Laughter Yoga session for SAT SHRI HARMILAP SAHI TRUST SOCIETY HARIDWAR UTTRAKHAND 22-Feb-2021
 * 64) Certificate of Appreciation  for conducting Laughter Yoga session or Guest Speaker @Radio Kshitij 3-Feb-2021
 * 65)THE WAC GLOBAL BOOK OF RECORD Holder  “Maximun participating chanting Hanuman chalisa Virtually
 * 66)Youth Leader Award by Hum Foundation
 * 67)Indian Professional Award 2020 “FOREMOST INTERNATIONAL LAUGHTER YOGA GURU” 2020
 * 68)Certificate of Participate as resource person on topic stress management in Atmanirbhar Bharat webinar online session conducted by Roots2 Bloom Lucknow &prakramika Vocational Institute ,Muscat Oman sep-2020
 * 69)Certificate of Recognition for conducting Laughter Yoga session @Daan utsav Oct2020
 * 70)DR.SARVEPALLI RADHA KRISHNA AWARD  by Mentrox 05-sep-2020
 * 71) Certificate of Appreciation  for conducting Laughter Yoga session @ Virtual International Education Summit 2020 held on 7-Aug-2020
 * Lifewithin Magazine
 * Article:Laughter is the best medicine – Lockdown Blues by Dr Harish Rawat
 * https://lifewithin.in/laughter-is-the-best-medicine-lockdown-blues-dr-harish-rawat/
 * Navbharat Times
 * https://navbharattimes.indiatimes.com/state/uttar-pradesh/ghaziabad/laughs-at-guinness-book-of-world-records/articleshow/66226370.cms
 * Patrika News
 * https://www.patrika.com/ghaziabad-news/laughter-world-record-by-dr-harish-rawat-in-guinness-world-record-book-3581148/
 * Hindi News 18
 * https://hindi.news18.com/news/delhi/meet-laughter-yoga-guru-dr-harish-rawat-2435575.html
 * http://m.hindi.eenaduindia.com/States/North/Delhi/2018/10/17113539/Dr-Harish-Rawat-make-a-Laughing-record-in-the-world.vpf
 * Story Cover :
 * BePositive
 * https://www.bepositive.online/dr-harish-rawat-laughter-yoga/
 * ViralIndiaDiary:
 * https://www.viralindiandiary.com/harish-rawat/
 * Positive India News
 * http://www.pozitiveindia.com/2019/02/28/%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%B2%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%8F-%E0%A4%B9%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%A8%E0%A5%87-%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%87-%E0%A4%B9%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%A8%E0%A4%B0-%E0%A4%B8%E0%A5%87-%E0%A4%B9%E0client B


 * Thanks Clinicalharish (talk) 09:36, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Please see WP:YFA. The help desk is not the right place to provide this information. -Arch dude (talk) 14:12, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

VC barre
Vc barre is kurdish, he is not turk, i want to change that information, everyone in sweden knows that he is kurdish, please change to kurdish origin, thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Husseinsweden (talk • contribs) 08:18, 20 May 2022 (UTC)


 * That information is supported by two reliable sources. In order to change it you would need to find a reliable source to support your assertion. Unfortunately "everyone in Sweden" is not a reliable source. Please see WP:RS. Shantavira|feed me 08:52, 20 May 2022 (UTC)


 * I am not sure about the sources, I can't see a mention of Turkish in the GP article and I haven't listened to the whole radio interview. TSventon (talk) 09:13, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Where should be placed?
At the top of the page with previously-infringing content? On the top of the relevant section? On the talk page?

(Whatever the answer is, please include it in Template:Copyvio-revdel/doc.) Tigraan Click here for my talk page ("private" contact) 08:55, 20 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Diannaa, can you advise on this? TSventon (talk) 09:24, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I've always placed it at the top of the entire page. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 11:43, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
 * The top of the page.— Diannaa (talk) 20:51, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Outline frame around map object area
Hello, how do I make the map show an outline around an area as seen here:

Klipriviersberg Nature Reserve

I tried copying the template but it doesn't work here:

Umtiza Nature Reserve Maqdisi (talk) 11:11, 20 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Maqdisi I found some Mediawiki guidance, which suggests that you need to link Umtiza Nature Reserve on Open Street Map to its Wikidata item. TSventon (talk) 15:49, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much for this, I wouldn't have found this. I added it but I probably have to wait until the maps are updated. Maqdisi (talk) 04:27, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Maqdisi, I think I was lucky to find the guidance. My reasoning was that I couldn't see any difference in Wikipedia, so I looked at Wikidata and didn't see anything there either. I then clicked on a map in Wikidata, clicked on a link to Wikimedia maps and found a link there on How to use objects from OpenStreetMap in your map.
 * If my suggestion doesn't work you could ask at Village pump (technical). TSventon (talk) 05:29, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
 * @TSventon I just saw this page:
 * Suikerbosrand Nature Reserve
 * and the openstreetmap entry:
 * https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/589157082#map=12/-26.4886/28.2486
 * which doesn't have the outline. It has the wiki tags for a year now it seems. So I suppose it's an additional thing that's required. How do I even ask a question on Village pump (technical)? Maqdisi (talk) 09:03, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Maqdisi, VPT works just like this helpdesk, you click on the link, start a new section and add your question. However, I think a more relevant venue would be Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Maps. TSventon (talk) 09:34, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Which person do I use for the SFN?
Hi,

On the Nazi racial theories I want to use the SFN to reference Mein Kampf. Do I use Hitler or Manheim (the translator)?

Thanks.--FriendlyFerret9854 (talk) 11:37, 20 May 2022 (UTC)


 * If you look at the documentation for Template:Cite book, you'll see that it has the fields translator-last1 and translator-first1 for Manheim's name to go along with the author's name. Oops. Clarityfiend (talk) 14:37, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
 * You'd use Hitler for the SFN and 1943 for the year. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 14:54, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Non-scientific language in some Psychiatry wikipedia pages
Hello,

I am a physician, and I volunteer some of my free time to review and update contents of wikipedia. I have noticed at least one page that include language that may be appropriate for lay-person level, however, the language is not necessarily scientifically accurate. Some of the sentences are quoting books that may have been written to general public, and they are obviously outdated. I shy out of correcting others, as I respect their contributions. However some of the sentences/statements are ambiguous.

My questions are: 1. Do you have subject matter experts who are in charge of reviewing those pages? 2. Is there someone who I can notify in case I come across those pages? 3. Is there a working manual or a specific protocol that explains how to deal with the issues mentioned above?

Thanks, Sarmad — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarmad.ghazi (talk • contribs) 17:26, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Honestly, the protocol is WP:SOFIXIT. Wikipedia is not run on a permissions or approval system.  If you have access to better general-use sources than the texts currently used, please feel free to add or update any relevant information by citing your sources.  If someone disputes your changes, discuss the matter on the article talk page and come to an agreement by discussing the matter civily.  You might want to read the Wikipedia guidelines for medical articles before proceeding too aggressively, but if you're confident something is wrong as currently written, you can update information with more accurate sources.  At the very least, if you want to be more tentative, you can add dissenting viewpoints from additional sources, while leaving the prior information in the article.  I hope this helps!  -- Jayron 32 17:34, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Duly noted. Thank you very much. SGhaziMD (talk) 18:20, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
 * @Sarmad.ghazi you can also get subject-specific advice and guidance at WikiProject Medicine. -- Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:55, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. SGhaziMD (talk) 18:19, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
 * First: Thanks for helping. As an MD, you are likely to be as "expert" as anyone else, and considerably more expert than many. Next: nobody at all is "in charge" of any article. Each article is the collective responsibility of all of the self-selected editors who have worked on the article. This chaotic approach has resulted in the largest and most comprehensive encyclopedia in the world, so I guess we must be doing something right, but we really need folks like you. who are willing to join our collaborative editing effort. -Arch dude (talk) 21:29, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi . As pointed out above, you can improve articles just like anyone else as long as you do so in accordance with relevant policies and guidelines. You may, however, want to take a look at WP:EXPERT and WP:JARGON for some general advice given the specifics of your situation. You shouldn't feel you need to automatically defer to others or shy away from editing articles about subjects that you know a lot about, but you shouldn't assume that your expertise gives you some sort of editorial control over such articles. As long as you don't try and win disagreements with other simply based on your expertise, you should be fine. You might also want to consider joining some WikiProjects about subjects you're interested in since I'm sure they'd be happy to have someone with your expertise as a member. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:49, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Deleting my own account
Hey Wikipedia,

Can you please tell my how to delete my own account, Loujost16? I created it by complete accident, and I want out. Right now.

Sincerely, Louis Jost — Preceding unsigned comment added by Loujost16 (talk • contribs) 18:07, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
 * You can't delete accounts - but you can simply abandon them.  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 18:13, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Accounts can't be deleted for technical and legal reasons, but as stated above you are free to just abandon the account. —Jéské Couriano  v^&lowbar;^v  a little blue Bori 21:24, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Changing a Page's Name?
Hello,

I am needing the ability to change a client's page's name. The page is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tahnee_Ahtoneharjo-Growingthunder and the page name should just be "Tahnee Ahtone" while the current name "Tahnee Ahtoneharjo-Growingthunder" should be listed as an alternative / other name in the right bio box.

Please let me know how to proceed to get this change.

Thank you. User4200 (talk) 19:37, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
 * @User4200: Please disclose your paid affiliation on your userpage. Wikipedia article titles go by the subject's common name, and you should probably discuss this on the article's talk page. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:41, 20 May 2022 (UTC)


 * , Wikipedia policy is to title an article using the name which reliable independent sources generally use for its subject. The sources cited in that article mostly use "Growingthunder" as part of his her name, so the title of the article should not be changed. Maproom (talk) 20:06, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello, User4200. Once you have made the mandatory declaration of your status, you are welcome to use the request edit mechanism to request changes to Wikipedia's article about your client (which is in no sense your "client's page"). Your requests are more likely to be honoured if you cite reliable published sources for any information you want to add or subsitute. ColinFine (talk) 21:08, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Template editing help
I made this edit but it didn't work as intended. Instead of only replacing the slash "/" with an "or" when 1, it replaced it for all instances. What did I do wrong? --- C &amp; C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 20:44, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Shouldn't you have written ?
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 21:22, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Juan A Figueredo please help, Draft needs to be published
The page which is clean, cited, formatted correctly has been in a "Draft" state for a week. Can you advise why when I press "PUBLISH"its still in a "DRAFT". Thanks!! Suzanne "Addie Pup" — Preceding unsigned comment added by AddiePup (talk • contribs) 22:40, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
 * "Publish changes" means "save changes", not "publish this to the encyclopedia". New users cannot directly create articles. You could submit it for review, but it is completely unsourced. Please visit Articles for creation and use the new user tutorial. 331dot (talk) 22:44, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
 * It's been nominated for deletion, which I find a bit odd as it's not doing any harm in draftspace. Pawnkingthree (talk) 22:50, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
 * needs to be published reeks of UPE and/or COI to me, and the draft is pretty much useless. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  22:53, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
 * It should just have been rejected (or declined) through the normal draft process. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:09, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Strange changes I did not make
Hello. I added a link to new page Sharon Lee Williams to Greatest Hits (Bob Seger album) here. You can see that there are a bunch of other changes made, but I did not make them. Any idea how this happened? Polycarpa aurata (talk) 22:54, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi, Polycarpa aurata, this tends to happen when users accidentally make their edit to a version of an article which isn't the current one. This causes all the later edits to be undone. I rolled the article back to the version prior to your edit. You may now make your edit to the current version of the article.--Quisqualis (talk) 01:35, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Indeed, you apparently edited a 2021 version. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:27, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, that would explain it. I thought someone had blanked the "Personnel" section and I started looking in the history. I figured out that you have to click to show the personnel information, but I guess I edited that old version. Thank you both!! It was very confusing. Polycarpa aurata (talk) 02:43, 21 May 2022 (UTC)