Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2022 October 31

= October 31 =

Any guideline or convention for archiving Talk subpages?
Do we have a guideline or suggestion for the archival of Talk subpages? Talk subpages are used from time to time for a number of things; see for example, Talk:The Buddha/Tertiary sources, which was created in connection with the recently closed RM on the Talk page. I have two concerns: My question is actually about the general case, not just about the one illustration above; I'm wondering if we have guidance on what to do about Talk subpages in general. I can't find anything about this at the relevant Help or project pages about this. This is hardly the only Talk subpage, and they are not all used for the same kind of thing, so probably more examples would be helpful; I don't have any handy at the moment, but probably a clever advanced search or maybe a Petscan could find some more. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 01:34, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * should we archive the subpage when the RM is archived? It may have some additional value on its own, beyond the topic of the RM.
 * if we do archive it with the RM discussion, what would be the PAGENAME? "Talk:The Budda/Archive nn/Tertiary sources"?
 * I think if the subpage isn't being actively edited, there's no need to archive it; closing it should be enough. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:36, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Is paid-en-wp@wikipedia.org still monitored?
I'm trying to deal with a complex case of suspected WP:UPE that involves private information. Is paid-en-wp@wikipedia.org still monitored? Or would it be better to contact a functionary/ArbCom directly? Thanks for the help! —Ganesha811 (talk) 04:05, 31 October 2022 (UTC)


 * @Ganesha811 Advice at WP:PAID suggests that email address is still monitored. However, the section also gives alternative ways to proceed. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:02, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks! —Ganesha811 (talk) 14:55, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Article that is clearly written by the person AND is total self promotion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malik_Siraj_Akbar 2603:8000:A445:2D7A:B141:D89B:139F:26EA (talk) 05:14, 31 October 2022 (UTC)


 * so fix it! lettherebedarklight〔晚安 おやすみ〕ping me when replying 07:05, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

stc Telecom Company Kuwait - Page Creation
Dear Team,

We are the Digital Team from stc telecom company Kuwait. We would like to know what is process & procedures to create a wikipedia page for our company. Please do let us know.

Thank you, regards, 94.128.5.14 (talk) 06:46, 31 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you for asking. The simple if probably unwelcome advice is: "Don't". But if you're intent on an article, please digest Ownership of content, Help:Your first article, Reliable sources, Paid-contribution disclosure, An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. Sounds like a lot? Yes, it is! So again, my advice is: "Don't". -- Hoary (talk) 09:38, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Changing photo
Hey, I need some help changing the main photo on Stefflon Don's page. I've tried uploading and cannot continue onto the next stage of the upload. Can anyone help me change it if I provide the photo?

Thanks in advance! AbirH94 (talk) 11:14, 31 October 2022 (UTC)


 * @AbirH94 I agree that the current photo on Stefflon Don's article is poor as the microphone obscures her face. You should be able to upload a new photograph to Wikimedia Commons using the wizard at commons:Special:UploadWizard and following the instructions. Is that what you tried? Note that you must personally have taken the photo with your own camera and hence be able as copyright holder, to release it with a suitable Creative Commons license. If you run in to problems, please specify in detail what they are. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:11, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Hey, I work with Steff's management team and wanted to update it using one of the photo's we own. I tried going the route you suggested but it still doesn't seem to let me. Is there any way you can do this for me please?
 * Thanks in advance AbirH94 (talk) 10:37, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * @AbirH94 Matters get more complicated if you "work with Steff's management team", since you have a conflict of interest and may need to make a paid editing disclosure. I don't know what you mean by "photo we own", since possession has nothing to do with who owns the copyright, which is all that Wikipedia is concerned with. I suggest you look at the Commons email template page for instructions on how to donate copyright material. It is at Commons:Commons:Email_templates. However, the most straightforward thing to do is as I have already advised, which is for you, AbirH94, to take a new picture with your own phone/camera and upload it as your own work, which it will be in that case. If you need further advice, I suggest you ask directly at Wikimedia Commons, who have their own Help Desk at Commons:Commons:Help_desk. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:20, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * @AbirH94 I forgot to say that one of the reasons you may have been having problems at Commons is that only autoconfirmed accounts can make uploads. For that, your account must be over 4 days old and have made at least 10 edits. You are near that threshold and can reach it by placing some information on your User page, for example. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:02, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

How do I delete an account?
A little background information: On October 10th or so, I made this account at my school since I liked Wikipedia and wanted to contribute. However, I noticed that the school laptop had some settings on it that tracked browser activity and was afraid that my account didn't feel secure. So a few days later, I made User:Serenbliss, for at-home use in accordance with the alternate account policy. Looking back, I was overreacting a bit and didn't really need two accounts. I also ended up making nearly no mainspace edits with that account (the 70-something edits are mainly from an excessively long talkpage discussion). So, is it possible to delete that account? If so, how would I go about doing it?

Any help is much appreciated. - Coolman2917 (talk) 11:36, 31 October 2022 (UTC)


 * It isn't possible to delete an account. However, I'd be happy to block it if you want - you'll need to log into that account and post a request from that account. Girth Summit  (blether)  11:41, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Of course, I'll log into it as soon as I get home. Coolman2917 (talk) 11:51, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * The account can't be deleted, as the information is needed for attribution, but you can retire if you wish. - David Biddulph (talk) 11:41, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Requested move
I find the page for requested moves too complicated and so I'm asking someone here to do it for me: I want Kobe Jones (American football) to be requested to be moved to Kobe Jones with the following reason: "It makes more sense to have the American football player, whose name is spelled that way, to be the topic at "Kobe Jones," considering that the soccer player (Cobi Jones) doesn't appear to have ever had his name spelled that way." Thanks. BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:12, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Whilst creating an RM is usually the right move, it seems unlikely that this would be a disputed move as the name itself is a natural disambig and the hatnote should be enough to sort out the disambig issues. I'm happy to just move this.  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:21, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

HotCat feature
Does anybody find their computers or other devices go slow when using the HotCat for changing/adding/deleting categories or is that just normal for this feature? SarahTHunter (talk) 19:06, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Request of an admin
Could an admin please delete the redirect Jalen Dalton so I could move my draft to mainspace? Thanks. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:05, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Deleted. Please go ahead, BeanieFan11. -- Hoary (talk) 00:27, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Mysterious cite journal error on article
I was cleaning up Muhammad Zahid Wakhshi, and when I previewed it it showed the familiar cite error, which doesn't show you in red which cite is wrong or what's missing. In this case, it's a cite journal error, and none of the cites appear to be cite journal. Anyone know what's going on? TechnoTalk (talk) 21:42, 31 October 2022 (UTC)


 * @TechnoTalk, cite document doesn't actually exist - it's a redirect to cite journal. That's likely the one throwing errors. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 21:49, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks . That was it. And Trappist the Monk fixed it. TechnoTalk (talk) 02:36, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

which edit wrote that
Is there any way of finding which revision added a given sentence of an article? checking every edit one by one would eventually work but... y'know Mignof (talk &#124; contribs) 22:39, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Mignof, on the page history, under external tools, select "Find addition/removal" ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:43, 31 October 2022 (UTC)