Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2022 September 17

= September 17 =

Henry Fitzalan-Howard, 15th Duke of Norfolk
Ref number 21 is from a book - it looks wrong to me...sorry...please leave in quote. Thanks 175.32.176.152 (talk) 01:27, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I think I fixed what you are referring to. A cite book template was missing the closing curly bracket pair. CodeTalker (talk) 04:22, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

Family of Catherine, Princess of Wales
Ref number 94 ( a quote)  should be INSIDE the photo box on the left hand side - File of Richard Noel Middleton. The other words and stuff like - {{{{cite news|first]]]] - need to be removed but Im too scared to incase I get it all wrong - Thanks 175.32.176.152 (talk) 07:51, 17 September 2022 (UTC)


 * done. lettherebedarklight, 晚安, おやすみ, ping me when replying 08:00, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

Exposing my under age son without consent allowing people to see our public IP.
Stop exposing underage kids ip address. Sick company. 68.109.51.89 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.109.49.42 (talk) 08:08, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * This is not a company; the computers Wikipedia is on are operated by a nonprofit Foundation. Please go to WP:OVERSIGHT to contact someone with the authority to censor any edits by your IP. 331dot (talk) 08:12, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I would add that Wikipedia has no way to know that the person sitting at the computer/holding the device editing is a minor or otherwise a particular age. 331dot (talk) 08:13, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Also, IPs are not shown if a person edits through an account, minor or not. &#8212;CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 08:19, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * To answer a little more kindly than the others: If your son, you, or anybody else, chooses to edit Wikipedia without creating an account or without logging in, then Wikipedia uses their IP address to identify that edits. If you don't want his IP address to be seen, encourage him to create an account (it is free, there is no minimum age, and he does not have to - and probably should not - use his real name). If he always logs in, then his IP addrss will not be seen. If you also want to edit Wikipedia, you should create your own account, separate from your son's.
 * Wikipedia knows nothing about the people who edit it except what they choose to reveal (which in the case of minors in particular should be very little: see advice for younger editors). It cannot tell whether the person editing is a minor.
 * If you want to get the IP address hidden from edits already made, see Oversight for how to contact the relevant team, as another reply said. ColinFine (talk) 09:11, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Just curious as to what was unkind about what I said. 331dot (talk) 09:15, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * The fact that this is a nonprofit foundation rather than a company is almost certainly irrelevant, and unhelpful, to the OP. Maproom (talk) 10:59, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * The replies before mine were factual (though not all relevant) but did not in my opinion show any compassion for a person who has clearly been upset and worried by something involving their child. Their complaint may be seen as combative, but that is understandable in the circumstances. I think a supportive answer is more likely to be heard than bald factual ones. ColinFine (talk) 15:51, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * @ColinFine As an observer, I, for one, appreciate your kindness to others, who might not know all of our policies. 71.228.112.175 (talk) 04:07, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

New York legislator
What do I do to add to the contact about my father (now deceased) who was a New York State legislator for many years? I want to provide content that is more representative of his biography and commitment to helping the downtrodden in New York. Ronmontanomoran (talk) 08:50, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Please go to the article talk page and make a formal edit request(click for instructions) detailing changes you feel are needed and identifying yourself as his child. Please understand that all content must be verifiable to a reliable source and as such we cannot accept personal recollections. Please also understand that Wikipedia has a neutral point of view and as such we can't talk up someone's political efforts in Wikipedia's voice. 331dot (talk) 08:56, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I am a former military photojournalist, so I'll certainly stick to the facts verifiable through newspaper articles and the New York State Assembly records. Will do, as per your reply to my query. Ronmontanomoran (talk) 08:58, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

Family of Catherine, Princess of Wales
Please place this quote/citation at the end of the caption which is under the file/photo of Olive Middleton in the "Grandparents of  Michael Middleton" section on this page - the quote supports the  statement that Olive Middleton  is an "heiress"  - here is the citation:

Thanks (I cannot do this) 175.32.176.152 (talk) 09:39, 17 September 2022 (UTC)


 * done. lettherebedarklight, 晚安, おやすみ, ping me when replying 10:27, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

WW II VETS
PLEASE ADD MY DAD. LESTER E. PENNY AGE 96 6TH MARINE DIVISION OKINAWA Phillypen (talk) 15:49, 17 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello, Phillypen. Congratulations to your father.
 * I presume you are talking about the article List of last surviving World War II veterans? It says at the top: "as of 2021, there are still approximately 240,000 surviving veterans in the United States alone. Only people who are (or were) the last surviving member of a notable group of veterans are listed. (Emphasis added)"
 * 6th Marine Division is clearly a notable group, but a) is your father the last survivor of that division, and b) do you have a reliable published source that says so (not just that he has survived but that he is the last)? If you have, then please post an edit request (see that link for details of how) on the talk page Talk:List of last surviving World War II veterans, with a citation to your source.
 * By the way, posting in all capitals is regarded as SHOUTING. Please don't do it. ColinFine (talk) 16:22, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

Najibullah Zazi
Najibullah Zazi needs a Template:Maplink "Denver to New York City" combining segments of commons:Data:Interstate 70.map and commons:Data:Interstate 70.map. ....0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 20:02, 17 September 2022 (UTC)


 * @0mtwb9gd5wx Why does this article need a map of a route that the subject drove? 71.228.112.175 (talk) 04:11, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

Having trouble updating a radio station's logo
The logo that apprears in the article for WRFA is outdated. I've updated the logo file here, but it is not appearing in the article. Now there is a note informing that a bot is going to delete the previous version. Any help would be appreciated, I'm still not understanding how to change an article's images once they've already been added. Crazyloop NY (talk) 20:21, 17 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello, Crazyloop. You did everythign you needed to, except wait. Caching means that updates to images are not necessarily propagated straight away. It's got the new logo now. ColinFine (talk) 20:27, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * OK, thank you! I didn't know it worked that way. I'll check back later. Crazyloop NY (talk) 20:33, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * @Crazyloop NY It might just have been a problem with your browser. Sometimes you have to WP:BYPASS its cache. occasionally, a different approach is needed as explained at WP:PURGE. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:22, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you! It was my browser cache. So I guess when I updated the article's image, I wasn't seeing it because my browser was using the old image it had originally loaded. Crazyloop NY (talk) 13:37, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

How to deal with multiple redirects to the same page?
Here are dozens of redirects to a single article:
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:AllPages?from=Altium&to=Altium+9&namespace=0
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:AllPages?from=Altium+Designer&to=Altium+Designes&namespace=0

I suppose they are unnecessary and actually useless, so they should be deleted. However, reporting each of them separately to Redirects for Discussion and then discussing each separately seems a bad idea. How should I proceed? --CiaPan (talk) 20:23, 17 September 2022 (UTC)


 * I mean, they're not very useful, but they're not harming the project either, which is sort of the point of this essay. Unless you really care I would just leave them. — VersaceSpace  🌃 20:28, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

The way certain places are listed
How is it that places like Glenn’s Ferry Idaho are listed as cities but don’t have the population as such

Cities by need to have 25000 or more people — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mymccy (talk • contribs) 20:24, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Each U.S. state has its own standards for what constitutes a "city". -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  20:28, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * The word city has different meanings depending on the jurisdiction. Where I live, there are towns that have a greater population than cities. 331dot (talk) 20:29, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello, Mymccy. I don't know where you get the idea that there is a population requirement for a city. The first reference in Glenns Ferry, Idaho, from the US Census Bureau, lists it as a city. I live just outside the third smallest city in England, with a population of 16 thousand ColinFine (talk) 20:33, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Vatican City has a population of about 453 - Arjayay (talk) 20:40, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Even The City of London had – as of 2016 – an estimated population of only 9,401. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.193.131.160 (talk) 12:34, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

Dozens of login attempts by someone
Hello, I don't know if I should ask about this or not. I have received a stream of notifications today that someone is trying to login to my account. As soon as I received the first notice I changed my password to an insanely complicated one. But even now, many hours after the first notice, I am still receiving notifications about multiple failed login attempts over the past few minutes. I thought I should post here in n case there is some wider effort to attack Wikipedia. AugusteBlanqui (talk) 23:31, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * You don't have advanced user rights worth going for in a wide effort. It's probably limited. Just ignore it. You can disable the notifications at Special:Preferences if it's annoying. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:42, 17 September 2022 (UTC)