Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2023 August 16

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Shortcut
How would I go about creating a shortcut for a wikiproject subpage? Some of the pages already have shortcuts but I have added subpages that now need them. Ktkvtsh  (talk)  00:48, 16 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Ktkvtsh Let's say I wanted WP:EXAMPLEREDIRECT to redirect to WP:Example. I would go to WP:EXAMPLEREDIRECT, type in, and then WP:EXAMPLEREDIRECT would redirect to WP:EXAMPLE. This creates the 'shortcut'. Sungodtemple (talk &#8226; contribs) 02:14, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you!!! Ktkvtsh   (talk)  00:13, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

Updating my Wikipedia page
Attached is my latest CV 49.127.26.104 (talk) 07:52, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * The attachment is strangely invisible. If your Wikipedia page says something that's out of date or otherwise erroneous, simply go to its talk page and at the foot of this talk page make your suggestions/requests, backing up each of these with a reliable source. -- Hoary (talk) 09:07, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Wiki Page with incorrect information
Hi, I am part of an organisation that has a wikipage - Widnes Wild Ice Hockey Club, Widnes - I have been trying to alter incorrect information on the page for a few months now and everytime i do the information is removed and reverted back to an older set of information. Is there a way i can confirm my legitamte connection to the club and our wish to change this faulse information. MikeTheHuss99 (talk) 09:31, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * If you are associated with the club, you need to declare a conflict of interest. If you are compensated in any manner(not just money) by the club, the Terms of Use require you to make a formal paid editing disclosure.
 * You have a slight misunderstanding here- your organization does not have a "wikipage" here- Wikipedia has an article about your organization, no different than if the New York Times wrote about your organization. Your organization has no special rights to the article, but its input(through you) is welcome; please read about how to make formal edit requests on the article talk page(Talk:Widnes Wild) detailing changes you feel are needed. 331dot (talk) 09:41, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * This page is more for help with technical problems. Please ask for assistance at WP:Teahouse and write  to show the article you mean. That is displayed as a link: Widnes Wild. The brief answer to your question is that you can update the article but reliable sources are needed. Johnuniq (talk) 09:43, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't believe this page is limited to technical problems- at the top it states "This place is meant for questions about how to use or edit Wikipedia". The Teahouse is more geared to new/inexperienced users and is meant to be a friendlier place than this Help Desk, but as I've understood it their functions are otherwise similar.  Technical issues should actually be discussed at the Village Pump. 331dot (talk) 09:45, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Sure, but without using a lot of text that would confuse a new editor, what I said is pretty reasonable. Someone at the Teahouse might help with what needs to be done (if anything). Johnuniq (talk) 09:54, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * , you could have asked your question either here or in the "Teahouse". You asked it here, and 331dot gave you a sound answer. Follow 331dot's advice; and if you get stuck then ask a follow-up question here. -- Hoary (talk) 11:52, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Misuse of booking template reference
Hello, recently I've noticed a misuse of the reference 2 in the article of Wikipedia Bots. Can you attempt to fix this? Thanks a lot. GreatPersonLikeMe (talk) 14:48, 16 August 2023 (UTC)GreatPersonLikeMeGreatPersonLikeMe (talk) 14:48, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I have changed cite document to cite web in Wikipedia bots. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:22, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

have a nice day
When I try to write an article or try to make changes to an article, a screen appears. it tells me to type some letters on the screen. I write the letters, but it keeps demanding the same thing. Does anyone know about this problem? Hamid Huseyni (talk) 15:55, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * This is a security feature known as CAPTCHA for new accounts that prevents bot-like editing. See this page for more information.  -- Jayron 32 15:59, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * The link you provided already sends me to the helpdesk, that is, here. I'm not a bot or something.  so how can i solve this problem? Hamid Huseyni (talk) 16:06, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi @Hamid Huseyni. Both of the links work fine for me, try opening them up in a new browser window? Here are the raw URLs. The second one is specifically useful to your situation.
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAPTCHA
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Captcha  Qcne  (talk)  16:11, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, the solutions suggested on the page don't work very well. I guess I will not be able to solve this problem.  I'm sorry for bothering you too. Hamid Huseyni (talk) 16:24, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh, I'm sorry - did you mean that the third solution suggestion was to come to the Help Desk? Apologies, I misunderstood and thought you meant your links weren't opening correctly. Try this solution: make sure that after entering the CAPTCHA text you click the 'Publish changes' button, not the 'Refresh' button. The latter button will instead just generate a new CAPTCHA. Let us know if that works?  Qcne  (talk)  16:30, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * To be more clear, CAPTCHA comes up when I add a text. After entering the CAPTCHA text, I press the publish change button.  So I am not renewing.  but the same CAPTCHA keeps coming, I write once, it comes again, I write again and it comes again.  I'm not typing the text wrong, I'm typing it right, but it keeps coming.  Anyway, I don't want to bother too much about it, maybe it will get better with time. Hamid Huseyni (talk) 16:36, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I wonder if it's an issue with your browser. 331dot (talk) 16:37, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Actually, I'm typing from my phone, I don't have a computer. Hamid Huseyni (talk) 16:39, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Are you using the app, or do you view Wikipedia in a browser? 331dot (talk) 16:45, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I go to wikipedia from google. Does the app make a difference? Hamid Huseyni (talk) 16:50, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't want to give you too much trouble, maybe you have a lot of work. Hamid Huseyni (talk) 16:37, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * My recollection is that when I give a correct answer to a Wikipedia captcha, it just presents me with another one; and that this behaviour is long-standing. But once you've given your correct answer, you can ignore the next one, and just get on with making your edit. Maproom (talk) 16:49, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I remember giving at least 20 correct answers. but it keeps coming :D Hamid Huseyni (talk) 16:56, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I finally managed to write an article with my ip address, but someone is treating me like a stocking. It's like I've been blocked before.  eh I'm dealing with bullshit. Hamid Huseyni (talk) 17:34, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * No person is treating you in any manner. It's just imperfect software. Have you never experienced computer glitches anywhere else before? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 51.198.140.169 (talk) 23:44, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Yu-Shan Lin
Reference help requested.

Hello! I got this message "A "bare URL and missing title" error. References show this error when they do not have a title. Please edit the article to add the appropriate title parameter to the reference." about some secondary citations I added to Yu-Shan Lin's page linked here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yu-Shan_Lin I tried to look at the code and wasn't able to see what citation set off this automatic bot, so I wanted to ask if you could tell which reference set it off, and if I could learn how to do that in the future. Thank you and have a great day! All my best, Ella

Thanks, Chem2023 (talk) 19:19, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * It's this citation. You left out the source's title.
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 19:30, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Salakanagara, a modern myth
There is a page on the Salakanagara Kingdom, and it is highly problematic. Salakanagara is a modern myth, as no reliable sources are present on this topic. The Pustaka Rajya Rajya i Bhumi Nusantara is a forgery, there are no archeological findings, I want to add this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fvPZjDwnJE and please read the Talk Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Salakanagara, were all kind of doubts are expressed. Deletion would imho be the best solution. Kind regards, AGM82 AGM82 (talk) 20:08, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * This article has existed for 16 years! Ruslik_ Zero 20:17, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * From what I've seen on Google, Salakanagara appears to be primarily promoted in sketchy blogs and the like. casualdejekyll  20:19, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I've proposed the article for deletion - this doesn't seem to be controversial enough to require a full AfD. casualdejekyll  20:17, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I have removed the proposed deletion, but at the same time replaced the entire article with a more or less single-sourced stub saying that it is mythical.
 * The kingdom is notable. It is a myth, sure, and should be described as such - in the line of Prester John, Ketumati, etc. But there are sources. Tigraan Click here for my talk page ("private" contact) 10:09, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I have also left a note at WT:INDONESIA. Let’s hope someone bites. Tigraan Click here for my talk page ("private" contact) 12:02, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

Article titles
How can someone edit an article title? I don't see anything on the article edit screen that includes the article title. Goman1 (talk) 21:19, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * See Help:How to move a page * Pppery * it has begun... 21:21, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

need editor help - Add photo for Michael Yamashita
Hi all,

Michael Yamashita's studio has added a photograph of him to the creative commons. Can we please add this to his page? I am not skilled enough to make this edit yet, but am a fan of Mike's and assisting in getting his page updated.



Gracious for your help

Drew Cryptohydrate (talk) 21:54, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello, . ✅ Cullen328 (talk) 23:11, 16 August 2023 (UTC)