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Uploading images without an account.
How can I upload images without an account? The following page says this is possible but does not seem to say what to do, other than get an account. "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Files_for_upload/Wizard Welcome to Files for Upload! This wizard will guide you through the process of adding an image to Wikipedia if you don't have an account." On the above page I pushed the button, "The image is free and I'm not autoconfirmed." That led to the following page that seems to incorrectly assume I have an account. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Files_for_upload/Wizard/Non-Autoconfirmed I made my images with my own camera (relevant to an article I added text to) and have no interest in copyright. Thank you. Also I mailed a check this month to help contribute to Wikipedia. 99.113.71.3 (talk) 00:46, 25 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Sadly, your lack of interest in copyright, while laudable, does not help. Your image is copyrighted by default action of copyright law, and neither you nor we can prevent that. Therefore you must take a positive action to license the image. I hate this, but I did not write the law and I do not make Wikipedia policy. "Non-autoconfirmed" would still be an actual (but new) account. Ginven this nightmare, The easiest for us if is you create an account, even if you never use it again. There is no way that I know of for anyone within Wikipedia or outside Wikipedia to trace that account back to you. We can probably figure out an alternative, but it will require extra work for you, or for us, or both. Completely separately, you can and probably should edit the "metadata" of your image to add you copyright license release to the image itself. There are lots of image editor programs that can do this. You can specify something simple, like CC0. -Arch dude (talk) 01:36, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I think if the image is posted to flickr it could be imported to Commons by editors with the appropriate permissions, but yeah says You need an account on Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons to upload files. Sorry, 99.113. Thanks for donating to the Wikimedia Foundation. Folly Mox (talk) 01:52, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Some images on Flickr are licensed appropriately for uploading to Commons, but not all. See WP:Flickr. ColinFine (talk) 14:47, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

Uploading artwork
Hi, I want to upload "fair use" artwork of a single (music). I tried once, and it was flagged for speedy deletion because "fair use isn't allowed on Wikimedia Commons." However, for example this artwork remains up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuthering_Heights_(song)#/media/File:Kate_Bush_-_Wuthering_Heights.png

How can I upload similar artwork to the above? Thanks. BrightOrion (talk) 01:43, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
 * You need to upload it here at en Wikipedia, not to commons. RudolfRed (talk) 01:48, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
 * it's non-free, just like your example. This means it cannot be added to Commons. Instead, you may add it as a "free-use" file at en.Wikipedia, just like your example. In the upload wizard, click on the "non-free" button and go from there. -Arch dude (talk) 01:52, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) Images can be uploaded both at Commons and here at the English Wikipedia. Commons images can be seen at all Wikimedia wikis. File:Kate Bush - Wuthering Heights.png was uploaded here and can only be seen here. The English Wikipedia does allow upload of fair use images in certain cases. Start at File upload wizard (it's linked on "Upload file" in a menu at the English Wikipedia). PrimeHunter (talk) 01:53, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
 * , the relevant policy can be found at Non-free content/Images Cullen328 (talk) 03:23, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you everyone. I have uploaded it here. It seems to work now.
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kate_Bush_-_Wuthering_Heights_(single_cover).png BrightOrion (talk) 11:10, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

Middleton family
References 4 and 34 in this section - "Family law and woollen manufacturing firms" - do not need the attached quotes. Theses citations are used more than once for different reasons. The quotes are fine when they first appear but not when they are reused in the section titled "Family law and woollen manufacturing firms" Can the quotes be removed when they appear in this section - but be left in elsewhere?? Thanks 175.38.42.62 (talk) 12:31, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes. This is why using quote in citation templates is a bad idea.  Don't do it.  If the quotation is important to the article, put the quotation in the body of the article and cite it.  Quotations require citations; citation do not require quotations.
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 13:11, 25 December 2023 (UTC)


 * I can't alter it so I'll leave it all alone...unfortunately. Srbernadette (talk) 13:17, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

Do any of these sources provide significant coverage for Scale of the Universe?
Earlier this month, I started a section on the talk page of WP:BFDI containing a source assessment table pertinent to the topic of Scale of the Universe. The other day, I went to the WP:RSN to ask about the reliability of some sources, and that helped me color nearly all of the Reliable? column in greens and reds. (I didn't mention the Harvard source, as an editor previously stated it made "just a brief mention" of Scale of the Universe, so it wouldn't have counted towards GNG either way)

Now most of what's left to determine is whether or not the following sources cover Scale of the Universe significantly: On the other hand, a user at the reliable sources noticeboard has commented on the coverage given by a few of the sources I listed there, so it might seem redundant for me to ask about significant coverage here as well. However, none of the sources I mention here are ones I've mentioned there, or vice versa. – MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 12:47, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
 * 'The Scale of the Universe,' by Two Teenage Brothers. ABC News.
 * “The Scale Of The Universe 2″ Animation Made By 14-Year-Olds Is Mind Blowing. Singularity Hub.
 * https://www.michiganradio.org/offbeat/2012-07-20/friday-diversion-two-14-year-olds-show-us-the-scale-of-the-universe
 * Rao, Mallika (2012-07-20). "'The Scale Of The Universe 2': Cary And Michael Huang Let You Scroll Through The Universe (PHOTOS)". Huffington Post.
 * Murphy, Dan (1 March 2012). "Something beautiful: Cary Huang's Scale of the Universe".
 * Wired Staff [3/1/12 - The Scale of the Universe: an Interactive Infographic]


 * @MrPersonHumanGuy: Hello! Per WP:SIGCOV, significant coverage addresses the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content, so I think the sources you provided here satisfy the definition.  Delta  space 42 (talk • contribs) 12:54, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Excellent. Would the coverage within Astronomy Picture of the Day and It's Nice That also be considered significant, or just partially so? – MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 13:22, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @MrPersonHumanGuy, I think the latter could pass as the significant coverage, but the former can't be considered significant coverage, it's just a brief mention. Doesn't mean it shouldn't be included in the article, just make sure the article doesn't mainly rely on sources like this.  Delta  space 42 (talk • contribs) 13:32, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
 * These would not satisfy SUSTAINED, however. JoelleJay (talk) 21:18, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

How to challenge a new article
I have spotted a new article which I think should not be in WP. In my opinion it fails on notability and encyclopaedic quality, as well as on lack of citations, grammar and spelling. Rather than me trying to fix it, I think it should be reverted to draft and returned to the creator. I have already expressed my opinion on the talk page. Is there another means to flag it for admin attention? Masato.harada (talk) 12:53, 25 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @Masato.harada: Hello! You can nominate the article for AfD (Articles for deletion) and write there that you want it draftified and explain your reasons for it.  Delta  space 42 (talk • contribs) 12:58, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

Page is not Visible in Browser search
These pages are not Visible, when searching on Browser Dreri Kali Pora and Jamia Masjid, Shopian Challawaheed-Shopian (talk) 14:49, 25 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @Challawaheed-Shopian: Hello! Do you mean like Google search? If so, see Controlling_search_engine_indexing. Pages are newer than 90 days and they are not patrolled - they won't be visible on Google search.  Delta  space 42 (talk • contribs) 14:51, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes Like Google search,
 * What to do with these articles such that they will be visible Challawaheed-Shopian (talk) 14:54, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Challawaheed-Shopian did you bother to read Controlling_search_engine_indexing? Wait 90 days and it will be indexed. If it is reviewed by the New Page Patrol it will be indexed sooner.  Qcne  (talk)  14:57, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
 * They are visible in the search box at top of Wikipedia pages. I guess your browser has a search feature which uses en external search engine like Google. They will be visible eventually (assuming the pages are not deleted). The author doesn't have to do anything. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:01, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Challawaheed-Shopian: Wait 90 days (or after review by the New Page Patrol) and it will be eligible for indexing. We can't control how fast Google will actually index it. GoingBatty (talk) 16:22, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Chino Rodriguez
Reference help requested.

Please assist me by adding the title where needed. Nathanielbapela012 (talk) 15:15, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, Nathanielbapela012 (talk) 15:15, 25 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @Nathanielbapela012 When I access the URL you claim to be using as a source, I get a message "The page you are looking for is no longer here". Hence you are going to have to seek a backup from The Wayback Machine or a different URL on fania.com for that reference and its title. I doubt that fania.com is a reliable source but that's a separate consideration. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:29, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

Punic people
Merry Christmas everyone! I would like to ask one small thing: on this page, in the "Short description" it says "People of Ancient Carthage", but shouldn't "Ancient" of "ancient Carthage" (like "ancient Rome") be in lowercase initial? JackkBrown (talk) 16:11, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @JackkBrown: Hello! Which page are you referring to?  Delta  space 42 (talk • contribs) 16:13, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I wrote it in the title. JackkBrown (talk) 16:14, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @JackkBrown: Just be bold and change the description. If someone disagrees with you and reverts your edit, then discuss it with them on the talk page.  Delta  space 42 (talk • contribs) 16:20, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
 * the main question would be: is it correct to write "ancient Rome" (see page Ancient Rome), but is it correct to write "ancient Carthage"? The Punic people page uses the uppercase initial. JackkBrown (talk) 16:24, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @JackkBrown: I think it would be a good idea to start a discussion on the relevant talk pages. Also, there was a discussion on Manual of Style regarding the capitalization of the word "ancient".  Delta  space 42 (talk • contribs) 17:01, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
 * thank you! Done. JackkBrown (talk) 17:11, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

How to use Template:IPA correctly
Hello, and first of all, Happy Christmas to everyone!

I'm asking for help because I'm currently struggling to implement the IPA template correctly on some of the articles I've worked on. I previously used IPA-ar on this page, and it looked to work pretty nicely, but then I noticed that all of those specific templates had been deprecated and, likely, re-united under the same "umbrella".

So, I've tried to use the standard IPA template on Kenan Yıldız and this draft of mine, in order to insert the correct pronunciation for both names (in Turkish and Greek language, respectively); however, the graphical output was way worse than I expected, being without any kind of link... What went wrong?

[On a side note, is anyone able to double-check my transcriptions, and see if I've got them right?] Oltrepier (talk) 17:32, 25 December 2023 (UTC)


 * You'll want to use the language code as the first parameter to IPA, like {{IPA|el|(IPA phoneme glyphs)}}. Folly Mox (talk) 18:01, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Folly Mox It worked! Thank you for helping! : D Oltrepier (talk) 18:40, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

Mistake in Indian actor Prabhas name h
Prabhas fullname was "Uppalapati Venkata Satyanarayana Prabhas Raju" instead of satyanarayana Wikipedia mentioned suryanarayana please make it correct 27.6.120.189 (talk) 19:07, 25 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello! If the page is protected, make an edit request on the relevant talk page. If it is not protected, be bold and correct it yourself.  Delta  space 42 (talk • contribs) 19:10, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

Error
" Lua error: not enough memory.Lua error: not enough memory. " at Google Chrome. tgeorgescu (talk) 23:56, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
 * A purge fixed it. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:17, 26 December 2023 (UTC)