Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2023 July 11

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Understanding how to fix syntaxhighlight errors
I noticed that the Teahouse is in Category:Pages_with_syntax_highlighting_errors. From the note that at top of that category, this is due to the syntaxhighlight tag. The only occurance currently on the Teahouse is this:

Apparently this fix is to for the syntaxhightlight tag, as if that is the most intuitive thing to understand and do. But there are no instructions on how to do that that I see. How is that done, and is there any way to know which languages are currently supported? Is there a page with more instructions somewhere?

Also, it seems that maybe setting lang="text" might mask the errors. Is there any way to make that the default? The Teahouse thread will eventually be archived, making the problem there temporary, but there are 1350 other pages with this error currently.

RudolfRed (talk) 03:00, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 * For your specific example; . * Pppery * it has begun...  03:36, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Can’t use Citation tool
I am trying to create a citation on an article and I couldn’t do an auto-citation so I clicked on “Manual” and clicked “Website” and the menu disapears instead of opening the usual menu. GameOfAwesome (talk) 04:12, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I assume you refer to VisualEditor. It works for me in Firefox 115.0.1 on Windows 10. What is your browser? Try to bypass your cache. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:18, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

an open scholarship versus Open Scholarship
an open scholarship is funding for learning, Open Scholarship refers to Open Science (and humanities) academic research. Both senses need to be explained on wikipedia. Any ideas on doing this better? ....0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 09:44, 11 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi @0mtwb9gd5wx.
 * I agree with the deletion proposer @Sfjohna: I don't really understand the purpose of this article. It starts with a definition explaining the article is not to be confused with Open scholarship (research), but Wikipedia is not a dictionary. It then lists a random bunch of recipients of the an Open scholarship (research) award? It is not clear why there is a definition and it is not clear why you've chosen those recipients.
 * Could you explain what the article is meant to achieve?  Qcne  (talk)  10:47, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 * to explained on wikipedia, an open scholarship and Open Scholarship....0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 10:51, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 * That.. doesn't make things any clearer, @0mtwb9gd5wx. Could you try again?  Qcne  (talk)  10:52, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, and the article Scholarship already covers what I think is meant here by an open scholarship Sfjohna (talk) 10:51, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 * So ... Open Scholarship open scholarship Scholarship Open Scholarship (disambiguation) ? .....0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 11:00, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 * the list of open scholarship recipients includes all articles of people that state such on their wikipedia page and, later, some that were located and are wikipedia-notable. .... 0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 11:04, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah, are you maybe trying to create a list of all articles of people who have received an open scholarship? See Manual of Style/Lists .  Qcne  (talk)  11:07, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Actually this is a better help article about lists: Stand-alone lists.
 * So the issues with your article An open scholarship are:
 * the article title should be List of recipients of open scholarships
 * the article lead should explain what an open scholarship is (with a source)
 * every single person should be cited
 *  Qcne  (talk)  11:14, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

How to archive conversations?
How do I archive my conversations? JackkBrown (talk) 16:05, 11 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Assuming you mean archiving your own Talk Page, the help is at H:ARC. I use MiszaBot but there are other options. See the source code at the top of my Talk Page for one type of archiving in practice. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:21, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Draft Super Bowl LXIII Article
Can you fix the error i made on that reference please. 98.186.55.18 (talk) 16:37, 11 July 2023 (UTC)


 * ✅, I fixed the reference error for you. Cmr08 (talk) 19:57, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Editing a bio on Swedish Wikipedia
Hi, I'm trying to edit someone else's bio which is on Swedish Wikipedia in Swedish. I do not speak Swedish and tried to add the info plus citations. A message was sent saying that this had to be in Swedish. So I used Google translate but then received a message back saying it was not properly formatted in Swedish and citations missing (which I knew). But I am not able to link the citations because I am not able to figure out where they go. And I'm not even sure if the Swedish translation is correct. Would anyone have any specifics instructions on how this could be handled in English? Many thanks! Galwriterpro (talk) 17:41, 11 July 2023 (UTC)


 * @The help desk on the English Wikipedia is here to provide help with issues on the English Wikipedia. The Swedish Wikipedia has its own help desk.  That said, if you don't speak Swedish, why are you trying to edit an article on the Swedish Wikipedia? ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 18:21, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the reply. Hi, the person lives in Sweden and is a scientist who requested that the page be updated. He does quite a bit of business here. Can I create a new page in English? Many thanks. Galwriterpro (talk) 18:24, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 * There is a draft for the article at Draft:Tord Wingren; however, you say that the person "requested" the page be updated. How do you know them?  Are they paying you?  If so, you need to carefully read WP:PAID and make the appropriate disclosures. ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 18:27, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Will do. Thank you! Can I create a new page in Wikipedia in English and how would this conflict with the version in Swedish? Galwriterpro (talk) 19:24, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 * , if you are being paid to edit, you must comply with WP:PAID with your next edit. This is mandatory and non-negotiable. The English and Swedish Wikipedias are separate projects, each with its own policies and guidelines. You can work on improving Draft:Tord Wingren but you are not autoconfirmed and cannot yet create articles. If you are paid, you should submit any draft to Articles for Creation. Cullen328 (talk) 19:39, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Just going to add a few things to what posted above. First, whether an English Wikipedia article about this person will be accepted depends entirely upon whether the person satisfies English Wikipedia's notability guidelines; if this person is deemed to not be notable per English Wikipedia's notabilty guidelines, an English Wikipedia article about them has no chance of being accepted. Each Wikipedia project is different in the sense that they all have their own separate policies and guidelines, and their own respective communiies applying them. So, just because an article about this person exists on Swedish Wikipedia, doesn't automatically mean a similar article should also exist on English Wikipedia. It's quite possible that the Swedish Wikipedia shouldn't exist, but nobody ever bothered to properly assess it. It's also possible that Swedish Wikipedia's notability guidelines aren't exactly the same as English Wikipedia's guidelines, or they are but just aren't being applied as rigorously. Even if this person turns out to be notable by English Wikipedia's guidelines, there's still no requirement stating that the English Wikipedia article needs to be a direct translation of the Swedish Wikipedia one. Translation are allowed as long as they're done in accordance with WP:TRANSLATE, but often it's better to simply create the article from scratch as if no non-English version exists. English Wikipedia's Manual of Style may differ quite a bit from Swedish's Wikipedia's and some of the format or syntax commonly used on the latter might not be acceptable for English Wikipedia. Moreover, unless your pretty competent in the source language, a direct translation is likely going to be filled with many errors or otherwise unnatural phrasing that too aren't desireable for English Wikipedia. Machine translations aren't really allowed per WP:MACHINETRANSLATION, in principle, and often end up deleted if they are beyond fixing. Finally and perhaps more importantly, is that if you're being asked by the subject of the article to update it or create it, you need to explain to them Wikipedia:Conflict of interest and Wikipedia:Ownership of content. The subjects of Wikipedia articles have no final editorial control over article content; they may make suggestions for improvement, but ultimately if will depend upon whether such suggestions comply with relevant Wikipedia policies and guidelines. There are processes in place in which subjects of articles and their representatives can seek assistance when they have suggestions or concerns about article content, but most of these strongly encourage the subject of the article and their representatives to not attempt to directly edit or create new content about the subject. It's very important that you make sure the subject of the article understands this because it will help avoid possible problems with other Wikipedia users. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:37, 13 July 2023 (UTC)