Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2023 July 13

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how to get a revision removed
On a certain talk page, a user posted a question containing (apparently) their home address. I removed it, but it's still in the history. How do I ask for an admin (or whatever) to suppress that version? —Tamfang (talk) 02:00, 13 July 2023 (UTC)


 * @Tamfang, contact WP:OVERSIGHT. 97.126.97.156 (talk) 02:09, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
 * That is for sure the correct advice, but since I am on that team, I figured out what you were talking about and dealt with it. Please do use WP:RFO in the future though, thanks. Beeblebrox (talk) 02:16, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

Lupton family
Ref 189 is all wrong and I cannot fix it, please fix if able, thanks. 175.38.42.62 (talk) 02:34, 13 July 2023 (UTC)


 * (i) Just what about it is "all wrong"? (ii) Do you have any intention of attempting to fix references yourself? (iii) Will these accretions of Lupton/Middleton trivia never end? (This one tells us "...Alan Lupton began at Eton, boarding there from 1888 to 1892. He married Mary Burrell in 1905, the sister of his fellow old Etonian Sir Merrick Burrell, 7th Baronet. His second cousins Francis and Olive Lupton - Kate's great-grandmother - were guests at the wedding.") -- Hoary (talk) 03:01, 13 July 2023 (UTC)


 * I don't see any errors with that ref, please clarify what you think the error is. RudolfRed (talk) 03:02, 13 July 2023 (UTC)


 * By contrast, I do see an error in the title of this thread: It's the same as the title of another thread on this very page. It would help if the person in/near Perth avoided the repetition of titles. -- Hoary (talk) 03:14, 13 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Thank you - I saw words printed in "red" and assumed there was a problem. Thanks as always. 175.38.42.62 (talk) 03:22, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
 * There was a problem: you had specified an access date in the future (14 July). Somebody fixed this by changing it to 12 July. This is supposed to be the date that you most recently visited (accessed) the linked reference, usually today's date, certainly not tomorrow's. Card Zero  (talk) 17:59, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

Re: Publishing Article for Public Consumption
Hello,

I am writing an ongoing article about the visual Artist Steph Gorkii, I am wondering how I "Publish" or otherwise make the article available for viewing via your search engine / google.

Please inform me of the steps I need to take in order to do this.

Thank you for your time and consideration,

Kody J. Bosch

KodyBosch (talk) 03:31, 13 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Creating a new Wikipedia article from scratch is a difficult process, and not something we generally recommend newcomers attempt - sadly, most such efforts tend to get rejected. If you are intent on this, start by reading Help:Your first article, and pay particular attention to the requirements to meet Wikipedia notability criteria through citation to published reliable sources. AndyTheGrump (talk) 03:45, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello, thank you for the reply.
 * Okay...SOooooo I'm trying to understand the point of a crowdsourcing encyclopedia if it is impossible to add articles to it...everyone has to get started somewhere! i've successfully edited existing articles, and the article I am writing is about one of the greatest American Artists of the 2oth and 21st century, who was famous before his life ended up on the rocks. I have cited numerous sources - including webpages and books. Uploaded images from originals sources that have been sent to me in support of this project. and have been working on this article for months.
 * There is some contention over this man's Intellectual estate, so I have been hoping that Wikipedia was the best way to get his story out there while allowing those who knew him to edit the articles while they are still alive.
 * I am willing to jump through however many hoops are necessary to meet Wikipedia's requirements, and however long it takes. I am a young guy and this project will likely be something I am pursuing the rest of my life.
 * The problem is that wikipedia's "Requirements" heretofore have been almost completely opaque...at least to me.
 * I hope that Wikipedia will be open to this. I also am a bit of a scholar and have access to original documents on obscure and esoteric subjects, that I would like to contribute to the collective consciousness. but if since I am "new" and there is no route to get any of that information, available no where else out there. then I guess I will find a workaround, of which there are always ---
 * And by "original sources" I am talking about books about Benjamin franklin that were writtten while he was alive...and are on paper. So even the images scanned / photographed would be original. As well as numerous items in my own collection. I believe Human kind deserves a lot better, and I don't know a better way to disseminate information other than this platform -
 * Thank you,
 * Kody J. Bosch
 * Washington State, USA KodyBosch (talk) 04:15, 13 July 2023 (UTC)


 * KodyBosch, it is possible to add articles to Wikipedia. (I speak from personal experience.) gave you excellent advice for achieving just this. But the most pressing problem raised by your draft is the copyright status of the three images that appear within it (and likewise for commons:File:Stephen Sculpting (Provincetown?).jpg). Please see what I wrote on your talk page. -- Hoary (talk) 05:24, 13 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Further, KodyBosch, your remark that "I have been hoping that Wikipedia was the best way to get his story out there while allowing those who knew him to edit the articles while they are still alive" is somewhat worrying. Getting his story out: If you're talking about providing easier access to facts already published in printed materials that aren't available in many libraries, OK; but if you're contemplating a dependence on letters and the like, no. Those who knew him: People who knew the subject of an article may at least use the talk page of an article to suggest edits to that article; but their suggestions must derive from "reliable sources", not from personal recollections, and they need to digest and edit in accordance with the "Plain and simple conflict of interest guide". -- Hoary (talk) 08:45, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

Joal Stanfield
Is Joal Stanfield notable. MagicalPrince863 (talk) 11:57, 13 July 2023 (UTC)


 * What would you say are the three most informative reliable sources about him, ? (His notability can be gauged from these three.) -- Hoary (talk) 12:13, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @MagicalPrince863 At present you have a single source to a local newspaper, which means that even if he is notable, you have not demonstrated that. See WP:NBIO for the expectations. Incidentally, find-a-grave and fandom are not considered reliable sources. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:23, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

Nobility References
I have a few questions Nobility References

Is System for Award Management(SAM) fall into this category?. Also is SBA Certified Veteran-owned small businesses fall into this category as well.

I have attached both links for review:

https://sam.gov/content/home

https://veterans.certify.sba.gov/

Geozap619 (talk) 13:22, 13 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Notability requires significant coverage in reliable sources, not the possession of 'certificates' etc. So no. AndyTheGrump (talk) 13:55, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

Images on translated pages
I have translated a page but the logo and floppy disk images are broken. How can I get these onto the Spanish page? TIA.

Translated page: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demon_Internet Tstanford1987 (talk) 19:37, 13 July 2023 (UTC)


 * @Tstanford1987, those are non-free images hosted locally on English Wikipedia - they are not on Commons because they do not meets its requirements. If and only if they meet Spanish Wikipedia's requirements for use of non-free images, you can upload them to Spanish Wikipedia. You will need to ask there about their rules and processes. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 19:51, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the quick answer! Tstanford1987 (talk) 22:21, 13 July 2023 (UTC)