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Ambassador Abdullahi Said Osman
I would like to create a wiki profile for the subject line individual. 2600:4040:2FCB:6900:AC7B:73D2:B6F:BEEC (talk) 06:07, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
 * We don't have profiles here, not a single one- if you want to create a profile, that should be done on social media. This website is an encyclopedia composed of articles, with criteria for inclusion.  For people that criteria is written at this link. Writing a new article is one of the most challenging tasks to perform here.  If you are associated with the person, it's even harder due to the conflict of interest(please read if applicable). It is recommended that you first gain experience and knowledge about Wikipedia by first editing existing articles, so you get an idea of what is being looked for.  If you create an account, you can use the new user tutorial to learn more about Wikipedia. If you still want to dive right in to creating an article, please read Your First Article, and then visit Articles for Creation. 331dot (talk) 06:59, 16 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Abdullahi Said Osman (b. 7 July 1939; d. 2016) was a Somali diplomat, civil servant and politician. He may meet the general notability guideline for a Wikipedia article.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 07:00, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

error after fixing spelling mistake
Seems like fixing the spelling mistake caused an error on this page: Cross Island MRT line. No idea what's the problem. Grullab (talk) 07:52, 16 July 2023 (UTC)


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 * I hope these suggestions help resolve the error you encountered on the Cross Island MRT line page. SDavid088 (talk) 06:51, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

I undid the fix to get the infobox back. Still I hope somebody finds the problem. thanks --Grullab (talk) 07:59, 16 July 2023 (UTC)


 * @Grullab: I see no error. I have reinstated your correction, and also implemented MOS:NOBR. Bazza (talk) 08:37, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
 * OK, maybe it was an issue with my browser. thanks for your help. --Grullab (talk) 08:49, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Carole Middleton
Is it possible to have the references a bit lower at the end of this page and closer to the margin... it currently all looks a bit odd. thank you in advance. 08:48, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
 * No. But it is possible to move the image, which was forcing the references to their odd position; which I have done. Bazza (talk) 09:14, 16 July 2023 (UTC)


 * To adjust the placement of references or any other elements on a page, you may need to utilize formatting tools provided by the software or platform you are using to create or edit the document. These tools typically include options to adjust margins, paragraph alignment, spacing, and other layout-related settings. SDavid088 (talk) 05:48, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @SDavid088: This is about how an article appears on Wikipedia and the answer you provided isn't helpful, unless you want to share some CSS tips. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:51, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Publishing edits
When trying to publish my edits for the page Electromagnetic hypersensitivity, I get the error:

No stashed content found for 1164738764/09680080-1f66-11ee-a68d-b04f13b9823c

What might be the problem here?

Thank you,

Bokidam (talk) 10:29, 16 July 2023 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure what that error is, but I'm confident it is a problem with the level of software way below anything to do with the content of the Wiki. i.e. it's not anything whatever to do with your edits. If you continue to get the problem, please try asking at WP:VPT. ColinFine (talk) 16:37, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Bokidam The same issue was mentioned the other day, with a suggestion at WP:Teahouse/Questions/Archive_1194. Please try that and come back with a comment if it works (or even if it doesn't)! Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:19, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

Problems on Sound of Freedom (film)

 * 1) 1 - the article is protected (I can understand) the talk page is ALSO protected, this makes NO sense since it stops people from requesting edits and discussing new sources and proposing wording.


 * 1) 2 - content issues. Right now there are very good reliable sources such as that are not reflected, and the section "Allegations of connections to the QAnon conspiracy theory" has been loaded with unclear WP:WEASEL wording and heavily relies on placing the claims of the producer/writer of the movie rather than reflecting the reliable source coverage such as.

Any advice that can be provided is helpful? I am still trying to read through all the talk page but there is a big look of people trying to push for their proposed promote-the-movie narrative rather than reflecting the reliable source coverage. Saikyoryu (talk) 15:13, 16 July 2023 (UTC)


 * It is unusual to protect a talk page, there must have been severe disruption there. I suggest that you contact the blocking admin about how you can offer proposed changes to the article. 331dot (talk) 15:32, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
 * The message that displays saying "This page is currently semi-protected" does not say which admin that is? Saikyoryu (talk) 15:34, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Saikyoryu, you can make edit requests here. To find the blocking admin, look in the page history of the talk page. 97.126.97.156 (talk) 16:18, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I spent a long while formatting a request there and it vanished. This is really unhelpful and painful. :( Saikyoryu (talk) 17:40, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I tried again and the same thing happened. 3 paragraphs lost and lots of work to provide links. Why? Saikyoryu (talk) 01:31, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I've no idea, Saikyoryu. But if I have to write something long and intricate and worry that it might be deleted for some/no reason before I complete it, I use a text editor (specifically, Geany) to write it, intermittently saving it to my hard drive, and only when I'm happy with it copy it to Wikipedia. If Wikipedia misbehaves in the meantime, I lose nothing. -- Hoary (talk) 11:50, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Requests for page protection is not the place to make edit requests. It is to ask for page protection.
 * @Saikyoryu Read WP:EDITXY, item 3, "You can edit semi-protected pages yourself after you have made at least ten edits and your account is at least four days old."
 * When you click "edit" you get a notice that the page is protected and the name of the editor who protected it. Contact them in their talk page with your concerns.
 * Regards, Thinker78  (talk) 03:33, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I was using the blue button under "Current requests for edits to a protected page" as I was told to do.
 * "When you click "edit" you get a notice that the page is protected and the name of the editor who protected it." I don't get this. There's no "edit" button on Talk:Sound of Freedom (film), just "view source" and that leads to a page that doesn't say who did the protection.
 * This is very frustrating. It seems like the answers people are providing in this "help" page either go to the wrong pages or are just wrong information. :( Saikyoryu (talk) 12:55, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * The editor who protected Sound of Freedom (film) is User:ToBeFree.
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 13:09, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * However, the editor who protected the talk page is . Jolly1253 (talk) 13:11, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Saikyoryu for the above replies. Hopefully, this will help to solve your problem. Jolly1253 (talk) 13:21, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * True and irrelevant to this help request Face-smile.svg At least "I can understand" from the first paragraph of the original question seems to make that clear.
 * , 97.126.97.156's advice about WP:RFPP/E is correct. This may be frustrating, but that's the place you're looking for. As others have advised, please create a copy of your text on your computer before submitting it to prevent it from being lost. It shouldn't happen, but it can't happen if you follow this advice. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:24, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * THE PAGE DOES NOT WORK. I saved some text, pasted it in 3 times and it just vanishes. Thanks for the run around treatment and being no help at all. And you posted to your talk that you refuse to help with a simple talk page comment so thanks for nothing. Saikyoryu (talk) 23:01, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * ToBeFree writes "I personally am uninterested in continuing this conversation." Wow. RUDE AF.No help, this "help" page seems to be a joke. Saikyoryu (talk) 23:33, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Saikyoryu, I have no idea why your text is vanishing - do you get any error message at all? I can see the form is working for other folks (and it's worked for me in the past, though quite some time ago).
 * Please keep a few things in mind:
 * 1. The edit request system is for use if you have noticed an error or have a suggestion for a simple, non-controversial change. The page is not for continuing or starting discussions regarding content should both an article and its discussion page be protected. Please make a request only if you have a specific edit you wish to make.
 * 2. You should contact the protecting admin if you want to ask why they protected the page or ask for it to be unprotected, not to ask them to implement edit requests - unfortunately that wasn't really made clear earlier.
 * 3. You'll be autoconfirmed in about two more days. The article and talk page will still be there then. You will be able to participate as much as you like. 97.126.97.156 (talk) 01:16, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
 * When I click it just goes back to the blank page and all my text vanishes. And I tried following the advice and the insulting admin responded "I personally am uninterested in continuing this conversation" and I got a notification saying my message was deleted. This SUCKS. The "help" isn't helpful and sends me off in bad or useless directions. Saikyoryu (talk) 02:39, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Saikyoryu, we're just volunteers here, like you. Anyone can post at the help desk. Sometimes you'll get bad advice, yes - that's part of the risk of crowd-sourcing stuff, encyclopedias (and encyclopedia help desks) included. 97.126.97.156 (talk) 03:36, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

OK one edit suggestion FINALLY happened. Is there some hidden restriction to only one link or something? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saikyoryu (talk • contribs) 02:48, 18 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Not that I know of. It may be possible that you were trying to post a blacklisted link without realizing it. Nothing shows up as being blocked by a filter in your filter log; I'd suggest reporting this to WP:VPT. 97.126.97.156 (talk) 03:39, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

Broken/rotted reference link now leads to (probable) scam(s): what to do about it?
I have come across an archived reference link where the old, “rotted”, link, is still there, and sometimes leads to probable scams. What should be done in this case? Should the out-of-date link be deleted (to help protect people from scams)?

I have searched for info on what to do about this and have found: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Link_rot and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Archiving_a_source but these do not seem to mention this problem.

I am guessing that this situation is fairly common, and that there is a recommended procedure, but I have not been able to find it.

The example I came across is in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_songs_banned_by_the_BBC It is presently reference numbered 29, and the original link is http://fantasticvoyagemusic.com/this-record-is-not-to-be-broadcast-vol-2-50-more-records-banned-by-the-bbc/ It gets redirected to various places: not the same one each time. FrankSier (talk) 15:57, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
 * The general guidance on this is WP:USURPURL. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:58, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for telling us this. I added a brief section to WP:LINKROT that points to WP:USURPURL, since I think you may not be the only person who tries to find this info. -Arch dude (talk) 16:34, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I think I have fixed that one. Will look for more in the article. FrankSier (talk) 21:26, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Great! You are now the expert, so please feel free to modify those two help pages if you feel that the next user may need further guidance.

Giorgio Mastropasqua
Why is "Serie B" indicated in the "Honours" paragraph and the wikilink of the season refers to a Serie A season? JackkBrown (talk) 13:29, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Do you think it's likely that anybody here will be able to answer that question? What I can tell you is that it was inserted by in May 2020. But as to why ... ? ColinFine (talk) 16:51, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
 * thank you, I just asked this user for an explanation. JackkBrown (talk) 17:00, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
 * His team won Serie B that year, so I corrected the error, . Cullen328 (talk) 17:06, 16 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Sorry, it was a typo; it was supposed to link to the Serie B season. Thanks for correcting it! Best regards, Messirulez (talk) 03:54, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

Party color templates
Hey there. I have two questions. How do I make a new party color template and is there a way for me to have access to other party color templates? As in to see what the color codes for other political parties are etc. You were able to do both before (make new party colors and see what the color codes are for the ones already made), but since the change to the templates, I don't know how. Bakir123 (talk) 18:37, 16 July 2023 (UTC)


 * This requires an edit to Module:Political party: See Module:Political party. Since you are extended confirmed, I believe that you can do so directly, or you can leave a request on the talk page as mentioned further down. ColinFine (talk) 15:35, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

@ColinFine I got it. Thanks! Bakir123 (talk) 19:36, 17 July 2023 (UTC)