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English & Arabic article
I was reading about “CAF Clubs of the 20th Century” article in English, and I noticed there is no Arabic translation to it. However, when I searched google for it I found already an Arabic article for it “نادي القرن الإفريقي” but it is not linked to the English article.

My questions is that can it be linked together? Sherif hady elmaghraby (talk) 03:32, 31 March 2023 (UTC)


 * They are now linked. Thank you, . FYI, which pages are linked together is handled at Wikidata. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 03:50, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much for this information. Sherif hady elmaghraby (talk) 03:52, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

how can i create a page about an indian designer?
i want to create a page about an indian designer, how can i do it? Soniakhannaforever (talk) 07:52, 31 March 2023 (UTC)


 * See your first article. It should be someone who meets the general notability guideline, and you should not have a conflict of interest while doing it.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 08:07, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Line
How do I change line when writing a text? JackkBrown (talk) 11:36, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I guess you mean go to a new line. The easiest way is, when you're in the Edit screen, there are buttons you can click on for various formatting things.  There's one that's a line with a right angle in it, and an arrow head on the left end. Click that, and you've got a new line.  Uporządnicki (talk) 12:01, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * the function you are referring to is for going back while editing. JackkBrown (talk) 12:40, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * No, that's not what I'm talking about. You mean at the top of the whole window, the stuff common to any website you're on.  This is something else.  When you want to edit, click the "Edit" button.  At the top of the edit BOX (not the whole window), there's a row of clickable functions.  I've just now reminded myself that to get the one I'm talking about, you have to click on "Advanced."  Then you get a second row of clickable functions.  The button I'm talking about is (at least on my computers) the sixth one along--right about in the middle of the line.  There's a very short VERTICAL line going down and turning left HORIZONTALLY.  Then it ends in an arrow point.  Click on that, and it inserts a   in your text, and moves down a line.  Alternatively, you can also just type in   .  If you then go to another line in the edit mode or don't, it still gives you a new line--although I find that the spacing is a little different with the two options. Uporządnicki (talk) 18:53, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
 * @AzseicsoK: I assume you're not using the 2017 editing toolbar. Are you referring to this icon? [[file:Button redir rtl.png]] — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:03, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I assume you mean line breaks? You have to press enter twice. If you press it only once there will be a line break in the source but not in the displayed text. Here are two very helpful links I recommend you to bookmark: Help:Wikitext and Help:Cheatsheet. Random person no 362478479 (talk) 20:54, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

I'm going to do some experimenting here, for people to see. At the end of this line, I will press Enter twice.

At the end of this line, I will provide a  and then continue on the same editing line (i.e., without clicking Enter). At the end of this line, I will provide a <br) and then move down one editing line (i.e., I will click the Enter button.) And now, I'm typing one more line so that we can see the result of that last move. By the way, if you click on that button or type  , the result is pretty much the same.  The only difference is, if you click the button, it will automatically move to the next line on the edit window; if you type it in, it will not.  Either way, if you want the other result, just change it right there.    Uporządnicki (talk) 19:03, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
 * And now that I've done that, I see that--contrary to what I said before--using the button (or typing in  ) gives the same result whether you follow it with Enter or not.  And I also see that for most purposes--eg., just typing ordinary text and wanting a new paragraph--clicking Enter twice gives the result you would typically want.  The   is useful for things like defining a line break in a table cell or a caption or some such thing; it avoids the awkward (in those cases) space that would separate paragraphs in ordinary text. Uporządnicki (talk) 19:10, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

Visual editor
Is anyone else having VisEd time out today? I've found I can reload, the edits will appear in source, and I can save that way, FWIW. But I was wondering if there was something going on. Valereee (talk) 13:23, 31 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Yes, others seem to be having this issue as well, see . Rummskartoffel 13:39, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Sorry to have contributed to this being discussed multiple places! Valereee (talk) 14:00, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Editing a Wikipage
When editing a company page, why is the company URL being blocked when this is a legitimate site? I am looking to add someone to the company page who has a Wiki page themselves, with a link back to the company leadership page to demonstrate it is authoritative. Also, why can you not remove or edits the names of products from the company since it would be misleading to keep old information on the page. Wenlake (talk) 13:53, 31 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello Wenlake! It appears the link you are trying to add is on the spam blacklist which is designed to stop spammers who try to add their links to various articles because it would benefit them since Wikipedia receives a lot of web traffic. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 13:56, 31 March 2023 (UTC)


 * To answer your second question,, Wikipedia is not a directory intended to give only current information about a company's products. An article about a company ought to cover that company's entire history, and it is often appropriate to include information about products that it no longer produces.
 * Wikipedia is not interested in what a subject (such as a company) wants to say about itself, but only what unconnected commentators (such as reputable newspapers) say about it at some length, and without prompting by the subject (such as by Press releases). Only minor, uncontrovertial facts (such as the current CEO, etc.) should be cited to the company's own website or other company publications. Promotion of any kind is forbidden, and an article must demonstrate that the subject is Notable (in Wikipedia's meaning of the term). Mere existence does not merit an article.
 * Frankly, I struggle to see from the current article (I presume we are talking about Preqin) what is notable about this company. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.205.101.197 (talk) 15:00, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Also, @Wenlake, if you are connected to the company in any way make sure to follow the rules about conflicts of interest: WP:COI. Random person no 362478479 (talk) 20:59, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Change title
Good morning, my general would like the Jr. Removed from his title, he would like it to say Kevin B. Kennedy, without the Jr. DINFOSPA1357 (talk) 14:20, 31 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Seems to have been done. AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:24, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * thank you! DINFOSPA1357 (talk) 14:26, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅. Confirmed from this source that common name does not include Jr.  I have moved the page to the new title.  -- Jayron 32 14:25, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * You are awesome! Thank you! DINFOSPA1357 (talk) 14:29, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello, DINFOSPA1357. Thank you for asking for this to be done, rather than attempting to do it yourself. Please note the following:
 * While your request initiated the process, the article was moved because the sources do not use the suffix, not because Kennedy would like it that way. He does not own or control the article Kevin B. Kennedy.
 * If he ever asks you to make any further changes to the article, you should make a formal declaration of your status as a paid editor (I assume your use of "my general" means that you are a service person under his command), and then request the changes on the talk page Talk:Kevin B. Kennedy using the edit request mechanism.
 * I have tagged the article for lack of independent sources. A Wikipedia article should be based on reliable sources that are independent of the subject: not written, published, or commissioned, by the subject, or their employers or associates.
 * ColinFine (talk) 17:07, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Ultraman Decker Finale: Journey to Beyond
Hello, everyone. I have a problem with the mentioned page, as another user moved the cast section to the end of the article, as well uses «Character (Japanese name): Actor (Japanese name)» formula instead of typical «Actor as Character». He also adds a link to the list of the prequel series' characters to the plot section. I tried to resolve the issue here and here, but without result. Дейноніх (talk) 16:10, 31 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Dispute resolution tells you how to proceed if your first attempts to reach consensus are not successful. ColinFine (talk) 17:09, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

author
How do I find out the author of an article. I was trying to use the article as a reference for my paper. 2600:6C58:7B7F:3817:6D34:70B0:9E83:A9AD (talk) 16:21, 31 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia articles usually have many authors, and this can be found by looking at the History tab at the top of the article page. However, Wikipedia articles are not intended to be cited as infallible, because it is the reliable sources that they contain which is what matters.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 16:25, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * If you mean the author of a Wikipedia article, there is rarely only one. Look at the revision history, that will list all contributors.  More specifically, when looking at the article, click o n the "Cite this page" under "Tools" on the left hand side.  It lists citation information and includes citation templates in the major styles. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 16:27, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * See Citing Wikipedia Martin of Sheffield (talk) 16:29, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * For references for a paper, what you want to use are the ones at the bottom of the article. You almost certainly don't want to use Wikipedia itself as a reference. Valereee (talk) 16:30, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

How come some images show up while hovering on some articles and on others they do not?
For example, when hovering over the article for a pencil, an image shows up near the text from the article. When hovering over the Capex Corporation article, the image on the article doesn't show up. Why is that? Casint (talk) 17:15, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * see mw:Extension:PageImages. Victor Schmidt (talk) 17:59, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * mw:Extension:PageImages is often the explanation but not for Capex Corporation which does have File:Capex Corporation logo.jpg as page image. See instead mw:Extension:Popups. The uploaded file is too small so Popups rejects it. Popups can only show an image if it has been selected by PageImages but Popups rejects some small images which are accepted by PageImages. The size requirement is described unclearly. At mw:Topic:X24ym9nooumpgr1h I wrote more clearly what I think is the rule for the uploaded file: "width × height must be either at least 320 × 200 px or 203 × 250 px." PrimeHunter (talk) 20:14, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Is a source credible if the underlying source is ...
If a statement is made on WP about an individual, and the reference provided is an article that is based on a report by that individual, is the reference valid? For example: "Spotts is ... ", but that link is based on which has under it "SOURCE Woni Spotts". My thinking is the reference is invalid, but I want this confirmed. K.Nevelsteen (talk) 20:29, 31 March 2023 (UTC)


 * I see the second source is affiliated with PR Newswire. I view that as a generally unreliable source. But it is not uncommon for respectable journalists to write about some company or individual, and in parallel, the company or individual arranges for coverage through PR Newswire. So how do you know the story by Amos Fofung is based on the PR Newswire story? Jc3s5h (talk) 20:53, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * If the article is based on or references the information at Newswire then, as far as I know, that does not influence how the article is treated. If it merely repeats the information (e.g. reprinting a press release) then it is different. The article at Newswire seems to be a press release and probably falls under WP:ABOUTSELF. Random person no 362478479 (talk) 21:09, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * @K.Nevelsteen It sounds to me that the reference you describe would not be independent of the subject of the article, or of the person being discussed.  David10244 (talk) 11:02, 1 April 2023 (UTC)