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How do I delete an article I created?
Hello,

I created an article, Michael T. Martin, earlier today after checking that one did not exist. Later on during the day I saw that somebody had created an article, Michael Thomas Martin about 3 hours before I created mine. I merged my article into the other articled. So how can I get an administrator to delete my article from Wikipedia while keeping the other article?


 * Michael T. Martin - delete
 * Michael Thomas Martin - keep

Thank you for your help.. Roberto221 (talk) 08:22, 10 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Just edit and create a redirect. I'll do this now. Jim Killock (talk) 08:25, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Done. You can view the source of the redirect page (by following the link at the redirection notice on the page it is redirected to) to see how it is done: Jim Killock (talk) 08:26, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the help but I rather delete the article in case somebody needs to use that name to create an article. Roberto221 (talk) 08:42, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
 * If someone wants to create an article about a different Michael T. Martin, they can edit the redirect to do so(more than likely the redirect would be made a disambiguation page at that point). Right now it's better for the project for the redirect to be there. 331dot (talk) 08:51, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
 * makes sense Roberto221 (talk) 09:23, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I have added him to Michael Martin. It's the only Michael T. Martin for now so it can keep redirecting to him and not the disambiguation page. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:06, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

View on creating Jat clan system
There is a question from a new editor at Reference desk/Language. Please could someone advise them, I think it is probably a Contentious topic but I find the CT guidance confusing. TSventon (talk) 11:12, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

Reference (book)
Hi, I added a new reference (book) within the carbonara page (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Carbonara&diff=prev&oldid=1218218795), but I don't know how to insert the right page (75); it currently links to "puttanesca". I took this source from the spaghetti alla puttanesca page. JacktheBrown (talk) 13:41, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
 * ✅, the easiest is to use visual editor and find the "Page Cited" field.  Coco bb8  (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 14:39, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
 * no, unfortunately; by clicking on the link you will still be redirected to "puttanesca". JacktheBrown (talk) 14:59, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what you mean. Looking at the first source under bibliography, I don't see anything that, when clicked, redirects to puttanesca. Didn't you also want the page number added?  Coco bb8  (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 15:07, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I clicked on the link after your edit and nothing changed, I was still redirected to "puttanesca" page (in the book); please read this discussion: Bibliography. JacktheBrown (talk) 15:14, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Ah I understand now, I thought you were talking about the puttanesca article. See TSventon's comment below for how to fix this.  Coco bb8  (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 15:18, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
 * , when a Google books link ends in "&pg=PA68" it should point to page 68. You can change 68 to 75 to point to page 75. The links to individual pages may not work if Google changes the visibility of the book. TSventon (talk) 15:11, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I have now understood how to do this, and will do the same on the pasta alla gricia page, changing the page number (update, 15:28: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pasta_alla_gricia&diff=prev&oldid=1218241053); thanks to TSventon and Trappist the monk (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Carbonara&diff=prev&oldid=1218238620) (and thanks to Cocobb8). JacktheBrown (talk) 15:22, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

today's "did you know ..." Oakland California Temple factoid
I don't think the FAA considers the temple a "navigational beacon". I would suggest "reporting point". 2600:1700:7580:3D0F:544F:1105:DCB2:743C (talk) 14:55, 10 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi there! Please see the references at Oakland California Temple.  If you still disagree with the wording, I suggest discussing it at Talk:Oakland California Temple, and provide a published reliable source.  Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 15:05, 10 April 2024 (UTC)


 * If you think an entry on the main page is wrong you can report it at WP:ERRORS. TSventon (talk) 15:19, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

religion
Evolution is a religion, so why cant I proclaim mine? 35.141.213.2 (talk) 17:14, 10 April 2024 (UTC)


 * That's not the reason for the messages on your user talk page. If you want to engage in a science versus religion debate, something that has gone on for thousands of years, this isn't the place to do it. Please see WP:FREESPEECH. 331dot (talk) 17:17, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Evolution is not a religion. Do you have a question about editing Wikipedia? TypoEater (talk) 17:17, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I would suggest WP:DNFTT. 331dot (talk) 17:21, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

Watching a user's contributions
So this is a question I have that I wanted to post before becoming an admin: Is there any way I can add a user's contributions to my watchlist, so I can watch when they make any edit? I'm asking because I've run into a few users where I need to wait before reporting them to see if they vandalize further, but it is tedious to keep reloading their contributions page, but would not to have their contributions in my watchlist. Thanks ---  thetechie@wikimedia  :  ~/talk/  $  22:42, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't think this is possible, due to concerns of WP:STALKING RudolfRed (talk) 01:19, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
 * WP:POPUPS can give you a transient popup list of a user's contributions when you hover over certain username links. So you could have a list of links for your users of interest, and then run your mouse along to see who's done what lately. It doesn't have unified "latest edits" of them all, time-sorting, or "edits since I last checked" features. And the list of users would be publicly visible. DMacks (talk) 05:19, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

no partial blocks
How come i am always sitewide blocked and never partial blocked? 204.2.36.253 (talk) 22:45, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
 * If you have an account that is currently blocked, you are not allowed to edit. Blocks apply to the person, not just the account.  RudolfRed (talk) 00:18, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Your account's talk page should have an explanation of why you were blocked. If not, you should be able to engage with the administrator who blocked you on your user talk page. GoingBatty (talk) 03:43, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
 * No, but why am I always sitewide blocked and never partial blocked? 204.2.36.253 (talk) 21:36, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Maybe it's for pulling off blanking edits like this.  thetechie@wikimedia  :  ~/talk/  $  21:42, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
 * But i was sitewide blocked before that. 204.2.36.253 (talk) 22:00, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
 * @204.2.36.253: Every time you post using another account while your primary account is still under block, you're lowering your chances of your primary account ever being unblocked. Even responding to the replies in this discussion is only making your situation worse, so don't. Read WP:UNBLOCK and follow the guidance contained therein. If you have questions about your block, login to the blocked account and ask those questions on the blocked account's user talk page. Someone will respond and explain what you need to do to get unblocked. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:53, 11 April 2024 (UTC)