Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2024 April 7

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Math formatting -- Template or Tag?
I found that many articles liberally mix the use of the math template and the $$$$ tags (some of them even use italics). I'm wondering which is the recommended way to format math formulas on Wikipedia now? AkiShizuha (talk) 01:02, 7 April 2024 (UTC)


 * AkiShizuha, there appears to not be any recommended format for all equations. WP:Rendering math may help you determine which method is best for the article you are editing. Sungodtemple (talk &#8226; contribs) 12:29, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Is this draft notable?
About 5 months ago, I thought a video game studio, Reflect Studios, would be notable for an article. However, I'm looking back on the draft after a while, and I no longer am so certain that it is notable. At first I thought they were notable since they have made several very popular games, such as Scrutinized, but I'm having some doubts if that makes them notable enough. Is there an exact way to verify? (Note, wikipedia guideline articles aren't likely to help me, considering you have to read them yourself, so I would just be confusing myself further) SonOfYoutubers (talk) 01:22, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * It doesn't appear that they have received much notice. I can't find any significant reviews of their games, so WP:GNG suggests they're not notable. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:49, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Even though the Reflect Studios article is not notable enough now, it may be in the future. So if it is still possible, consider saving your article (in the source code format) so that you can easily submit it again should notability develop.  Kind regards to all,Hu Nhu (talk) 05:05, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Article decline
my biograpy which i had written was declined how to approveit ? Donal69 (talk) 04:32, 7 April 2024 (UTC)


 * I suspect that you mean "improve it." To improve the article, begin by reading the April 4 post with specific suggestions that was left on your talk page.  Then, if you have further questions, ask HERE.


 * If you mean "approve it", you must follow the suggestions for improving the article and then submit it for approval again. Kind regards to all,Hu Nhu (talk) 05:04, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * If you're asking about the current content of your sandbox, I regret to say that it appears to be beyond hope. I can't imagine that anything based on it could ever be approved. 126.158.186.199 (talk) 05:05, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Even if you rewrite your sandbox to fix all the grammatical and spelling errors, the topic is still impossible to meet the Notability Guidelines. --AkiShizuha (talk) 06:46, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

MOS:TM for sources themselves?
I noticed this change in my watchlist to the Jeff Minter article that citing MOS:TM removes the "®" from the reference. I've no particular beef with the edit, having used MOS:TM many times, but it did make me wonder - should MOS:TM be applied to sources themselves?

If the source is called "PlayStation® Games" should we include the "®" or not? I understand the rationale behind removing TM etc from the article, but it seems a stretch to do so for the sources themselves as well?

Also I note that the same edit left "™" in the next few words, and I'm not sure about the neatness of having double-spaces (even though it's not parsed) but I still wonder about the application of MOS:TM in this case? Chaheel Riens (talk) 15:53, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Additional - not sure why the heading didn't work, I think it's because I started the topic with a link? Chaheel Riens (talk) 15:55, 7 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Consistency: Inline citations are designed to be read in the middle of an article, and so text within the citation should be written in the same style as the article. Ships&#38;Space (talk) 00:09, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Wiki History
I am looking for two photos which were made on Wikipedia by the photographer a few years back, due to a legal argument. Is there a way to see those photos through some Wiki history page? Thank you. Im1965 (talk) 16:33, 7 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Your question is unclear. I'm guessing you mean two photos which were uploaded and then deleted for legal reasons? Admins can usually see deleted material (in this case it would presumably be Commons admins rather than Wikipedia admins) but other editors cannot.
 * But if material is deleted for reasons of copyright (which I'm guessing is what you mean) I believe it is usually expunged so that even admins cannot see it, as retaining it at all would be a copyright violation. ColinFine (talk) 17:08, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Admins can see deleted content on whichever sites they have the admin bit. Copyright-deletion is not special, it's just one of the reasons content might be deleted (albeit one of the more strict policy cases). The result is that ordinary users cannot see it. And likewise, admins who can see it would hopefully not be willing to grab a copy of the deleted item and distributed it themselves. ColinFine, maybe you're thinking of WP:SUPPRESSed content, which even normal admins can't see? Copyright is not one of the use-cases for that. DMacks (talk) 05:01, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for clarifying, DMacks: I thought that copyright deletions did get suppressed, or equivalent. ColinFine (talk) 12:04, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

A German translation
I'm working on Draft:Adelaide Bronti and came across this news article about, presumably, a theatre production she was in. But I don't know German and the OCR translation from the text is...not the best. Where would be the proper place to ask for help with this? Silver seren C 17:04, 7 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Hello. The most general place for such requests would be WP:RDL; but you might get better results either by choosing some active people in Category:Translators de-en and asking on their user talk pages, or by posting on WT:WikiProject Germany. (You can see who is active by looking at their contributions) ColinFine (talk) 17:13, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I'll ask at RDL first, since it isn't that time urgent. Silver  seren C 17:22, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Login problems
I have tried logging in with my user name and saved password, but I keep being told that my password is incorrect. I have not changed it, though I do need to change it to a strong password. I have tried asking for a password reset, but the email never reached me. 82.37.3.172 (talk) 17:31, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * unfortunately if your password is not working and you are not getting the reset email, then you will need to create a new account. You can add a note to the new account's user page that you previously edited under the old account name.  RudolfRed (talk) 20:02, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

"New topic" notifications
I'm receiving "New topic created" notifications for WP:RD/S. I'm not aware of having requested this and do not see how to turn it off. --Lambiam 20:46, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a feature from Talk_pages_project. I looked at that page and only found out about notifications for existing topics, but maybe someone on that project knows about the new topic notifications.  RudolfRed (talk) 21:38, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I've been getting the same for the user talk page of a now-blocked user. It's not on my watch list, but I suppose I might have accidentally subscribed or something. ColinFine (talk) 12:06, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
 * The documentation for this feature is not easy to find (unlike subscribe/unsubscribe and watch/unwatch) and its "affordance" is not very visible, but here it is (ta-daaa!):
 * Phabricator item T263821, section Requirements, after "...the following should be true:"
 * --Lambiam 12:36, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Where to report block evasion?
What noticeboard should be used to report block evasion? AIV admin said not there. Jeff in CA (talk) 22:05, 7 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Maybe WP:SPI. Sungodtemple (talk &#8226; contribs) 22:11, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * WP:ANI RudolfRed (talk) 22:14, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Or ask the admin who told you to go elsewhere. RudolfRed (talk) 22:15, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I started a SPI.  Liliana UwU  (talk / contributions) 22:31, 7 April 2024 (UTC)