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Change a thumbnail photograph
I desire to change my thumb nail photo to an updated image. Can you please assist? G.d.bricknell (talk) 04:50, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * G.d.bricknell, you've just done that, in this edit. (You simultaneously removed the bio-infobox, but I'd say that this was completely superfluous.) then reverted your edit; you can discuss the pros and cons at Talk:Sam Prince (restaurateur). -- Hoary (talk) 06:21, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * You used VisualEditor where a new user may easily delete a whole infobox by accident instead of an infobox image. Click the infobox and then "Edit" below to change the image field without deleting the infobox. Opinions are divided but most users do like infoboxes and don't want them deleted even if everything is repeated in the article text. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:30, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Problem
I ask here because the topic is relevant anyway and because I would like to receive more feedback. On the List of Italian dishes page, there are many unknown foods in English in the main sections, while there are other unknown foods in the regional variants. To avoid confusion, it would be better to do one of the following: include all foods from the regional variants in the main sections as well, or include all unknown foods in English from the main sections within the regional variants. JackkBrown (talk) 11:38, 16 January 2024 (UTC)


 * WP:SOFIXIT Tollens (talk) 11:52, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * And remember WP:NOTEVERYTHING. Bazza (talk) 12:53, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @JackkBrown: The place to have the conversation is the article's talk page (as you've been doing in this case). To receive more feedback, invite the editors who have made significant additions/changes to the article to join the conversation.  You may also post a request on the associated WikiProject's talk page to invite them to the conversation. GoingBatty (talk) 14:44, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Watch articles under Wikiproject
Is there a way to watch the recent changes made on articles under the scope of a certain wikiproject?

For example, for all the articles under WikiProject Mammals:

- I know you can watch changes made to pages in Category:WikiProject Mammals articles, but that's just the talk pages, not the articles themselves.

-There was a tool that apparently did that, but seems like it got shut down in 2014.

Thanks in advance, Gor1995 &#119070; 11:54, 16 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @Gor1995 Hmmm I'd check out Hot articles. Another tool I used seems to be broken, https://bambots.toolforge.org/WikiProjectRecentChanges.php, perhaps this can be asked again in WP:VPT ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 20:11, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I did not know the bambots tool. I could not figure out how to make it work... perhaps Bamyers99 can help clarifying if it's permanently broken or not. -- Gor1995 &#119070; 22:07, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * WikiProjectRecentChanges has been retired. It did not survive the move to my personal server. I just looked at resurrecting it, but could not figure out how to query the needed information from the Wikimedia server. --Bamyers99 (talk) 23:42, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Oh, that's bad news... do you know any other way of achieving a similar thing? I just saw that WP Medicine created this page (looks like via PetScan) to list all 53000 pages under the scope of the project and then they use the related changes to watch the articles. That's an option but it's a huge page and also has to be updated manually. Thanks -- Gor1995 &#119070; 15:58, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @Gor1995: You can also check out the Cleanup listing for WikiProject Mammals, which has enough to keep you busy for a while. GoingBatty (talk) 22:16, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Didn't know this tool -- Gor1995 &#119070; 15:49, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

I am new to Wiki. I want to set up a page for a Museum Project
I am new to Wiki. I want to set up a page for a Museum Project

Where do I start? Jethrob101 (talk) 18:46, 16 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi @Jethrob101. Writing a Wikipedia article from scratch is a very difficult undertaking. Your best bet is to closely look at our notability guidelines to see if the Museum Project passes our criteria for inclusion. If it does, then I'd recommend you start a draft article via our Articles for Creation process which will allow an experienced editor to review your draft on submission and give feedback.
 * Please note if you are being paid by the Project you must make a declaration by following the instructions at WP:PAID. If you are connected to the project you must also make this clear by following the instructions at WP:COI.  Qcne  (talk)  18:59, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Hello, Jethrob101. Your choice of words "set up a page for" suggests that, like many people, you misunderstand what Wikipedia is and how it works.
 * If your project has already been written about by several independent, reliable sources, then Wikipedia could have an article about it, based almost entirely on what those independent sources say, not on what the project itself says or wants to say. You and your colleagues are discouraged from writing this article, but not forbidden.
 * If an article is accepted into the encyclopaedia, whoever writes it, it will not be owned or controlled by your or your project, and it will not necessarily say what you would like it to say. Your role will be limited to suggesting edits, which should be backed up by independent published sources. promotion of any sort (a.k.a. "telling the world about") is forbidden.
 * In addition, as Qcne says, writing a new article is a challenging task, even for an editor who does not have a conflict of interest, and I would advise anybody against trying it before they have spent a few months editing existing articles and learning how Wikipedia works. ColinFine (talk) 21:31, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Adding a book to a list of books in a Wikipedia article
I've added a book ("The Negev and the Bedouins: nomads, living areas and the land problem, 1800-1967") to article Ruth Kark.

Have I formatted the information correctly? Is there a tool for doing this?

This is the Hebrew version of the book as the English version is not out yet. I used Google Translate to derive the English title from the Hebrew title. Is that the correct thing to do?

I tried searching for the book using Special:BookSources but neither form of ISBN was recognised (978-1885881786 and 1885881789). Does that happen often?

Many thanks Misha Wolf (talk) 20:03, 16 January 2024 (UTC)


 * As far as I can see, you have added it correctly. However, I question why it needed to be added: in my opinion, the list of works is already too long.
 * What that article needs is not more content, but better sources. I suspect that Kark does meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability, but the sources do not demonstrate this. Apart from nos 3 and 4, which I haven't looked at, most of the rest do not contain siginificant coverage of Kark, and the biography is obviously not independent.
 * What that article needs more than anything else is some independent sources which discuss her indepth, meeting the criteria in the golden rule. ColinFine (talk) 21:42, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I have revised the existing references in Ruth Kark's article, deleting those that were less informative (too personal), and adding several academic and journalistic sources related to Kark's work and achievements.
 * Also added a link to Kark's publications on Google Scholar to help people find her papers and books online.
 * I believe this resolves the issue identified earlier and so, I have removed the warning tag from the article. MountainStream888 (talk) 11:30, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Moët & Chandon
It's a small problem, but I don't know why there's white space in the "External links" paragraph that shouldn't be there. JackkBrown (talk) 20:52, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * This one? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 21:31, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * ohh, thank you! JackkBrown (talk) 21:46, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Changing email address
How do I change my email address on my account. 2001:569:FD9A:9500:C42B:5C01:2631:FD33 (talk) 21:42, 16 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi there! Log in to your account, and go to Special:Preferences.  On the "User profile" tab, scroll down until you see your email address and click the "Change or remove your email address" button.  Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 21:48, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Censorship
Is it true that Wikipedia have blocked/banned/cancelled Amir Tsafarti and 'Behold Israel'? 121.75.183.0 (talk) 21:53, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Hey anon. There doesn't seem to have been an article by either of these names. So it's not clear what you're referring to.  G M G  talk  21:55, 16 January 2024 (UTC)


 * There is also no username matching either the name of the person, or of the organisatiomn As far as I can tell they haven't been blocked or banned (cancelling isn't a thing here); Then again, if they were editing anonymously.or pseudonymously, and were causing disruption, they might have been. We don't know who is behind most accounts. Girth Summit  (blether)  22:03, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Found a clue: Talk:List_of_Messianic_Jewish_organizations. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 22:07, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * See User:Donykorobka/sandbox. -- zzuuzz (talk) 23:26, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * See Articles_for_deletion/Amir_Tsarfati and Village_pump_(policy) RudolfRed (talk) 04:39, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Draft
I have a draft of a potential article in a sandbox. Where do I go to have some editor with article creation experience take a look and give me some feedback. Buster Seven   Talk  (UTC) 22:46, 16 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi @Buster7,
 * I would probably go to Help with your first article and Help:Your first article
 * The Teahouse is an excellent place to look for advice for your article.
 * Best,
 * @Avishai11
 * Avishai11 (talk) 23:36, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks User:Avishai11 I put a ((Help me)) call on the talk page of the sandbox Buster Seven   Talk  (UTC) 23:59, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Removal from Wikipedia site
How does Wikipedia decide who and when to remove information of a group or individual from their site? 2001:8003:E41C:EC00:F911:C3D7:D693:FA79 (talk) 23:26, 16 January 2024 (UTC)


 * A consensus of ordinary editors decides, according to Wikipedia's policies and principles. If you are talking about deleting an article or draft, see deletion process. If you are talking about removing material from an article, see WP:BRD. ColinFine (talk) 23:42, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi,
 * I don't exactly understand what you are asking. This page might be helpful: Content removal.
 * Best,
 * @Avishai11
 * Avishai11 (talk) 23:43, 16 January 2024 (UTC)