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How to request a new version of a spoken article?
How is the best way to go about requesting a new spoken article that will get the most attention in hopes someone will create one? The written article in question already has a spoken article but it's from 2010, so obviously the article in question has changed a lot since then. As such I don't think it would fall under a spoken article request, as this seems to be for pages that don't already have a spoken version (although I may be wrong here so clarification would be helpful). Also, the original uploader has been inactive on Wikipedia and other related projects for years, so I can't ask them to make a new version, nor do I think I'm comfortable recording myself. I've asked this question on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spoken Wikipedia and Category talk:Spoken Wikipedia requests without any responses. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks. Helper201 (talk) 01:51, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @Helper201 you can request a recording by placing on the article's talk page.   [[User:CanonNi ]]  (talk • contribs) 02:03, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * but as I mentioned it wouldn't technically be a spoken article request as the article already has a spoken version, it’s just very old and needs a new or updated version. Helper201 (talk) 02:06, 17 June 2024 (UTC)


 * If you think recording it is so important, Helper201, could you perhaps record it yourself? -- 02:51, 17 June 2024 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hoary (talk • contribs)

Invalid server
What does it mean when the server is invalid when publishing content? Twocard88 (talk) 07:14, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * You didn't state the precise message but you probably just have to try again. If the same edit session fails to save then try to start a new edit but you can just copy-paste from the old attempt without changing anything. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:44, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Querying all values for a parameter in an infobox.
If there was Template:Infobox Guinea Pig and I wanted to know all of the unique values that had been given to the parameter "tail color", is there an easy way to search this? Let's say that there are more than 500 uses of the template. Ideally, I'd like to then be see that there is one with cyan and then able to tell the one article that had tail color = Cyan, but I figure the second could be done with a regex search.Naraht (talk) 12:37, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Article hijacked by unrelated company for 14 years and no-one noticed?
Odd case I came across today.


 * 18 August 2005: An IP user creates new article on (and named) BlueSpace, an IBM–Steelcase collaboration on a prototype "office of the future".
 * 6 June 2010: With their first edit, adds content on a different entity named BlueSpace – a software company in the defence industry – shunting content on the other BlueSpace further down, with the summary "the IBM BlueSpace desk furniture project is now essentially dead".
 * 7 June 2010: Another IP user (possibly Justin143143 logged out?), with their first edit, removes everything related to IBM BlueSpace, with the summary "The IBM BlueSpace Office was a failed research project that happened in 2002. It is no longer relevant." The article has now been completely transformed into covering an entirely different topic.
 * No-one notices for the next 14 years. The usual chronic COI editing ensues. The article is moved to "Bluespace (software)" in 2020 and "BlueSpace Federal" in 2023.

The defence industry BlueSpace seems to fail our notability guidelines for companies, but the IBM BlueSpace actually seems to pass – on a quick search it's got coverage in the NYT, The Register, ZDNet, The Globe and Mail etc.

I'd like to put the defence industry BlueSpace up for deletion but rewrite and retain the IBM BlueSpace. How should I go about doing this? I can think of two ways:


 * 1) Restore the article to its last unhijacked version (12 April 2009), move it back to "BlueSpace", rewrite an article on the IBM BlueSpace from there. If someone really feels the need for an article on the defence industry BlueSpace, they can write their own somewhere else.
 * 2) PROD/AfD the article and separately expand the redirect BlueSpace into a new article on the IBM BlueSpace.

Which is preferable? – Teratix ₵ 14:41, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Referencing errors on SugarCRM
Reference help requested.

Thanks, Sarahfriedland (talk) 14:57, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * .  Coco bb8  (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 15:14, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * An easy fix is to delete the use the "Cite" button, then paste the URL and the software will do the rest for you to re-generate the citation :).  Coco bb8  (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 15:16, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Can you help me with this edit? Thank you!


 * has fixed it, you didn't give a title Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:14, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

article image weirdness
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goochland_County,_Virginia article image on right side does not show the state in either Firefox or Edge, only the highlighted county. Looks weird. Not allowed to upload an example here. Oathed (talk) 15:26, 17 June 2024 (UTC)


 * @Oathed Yes, it's a known problem. See for example WP:Village pump (technical). Presumably it will be fixed soon. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:46, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Reporting IP-hopping vandalism
Hi - I've been going through recent "bad" changes lately and sometimes there's articles that get hit by a vandal over-and-over, but with different IP's. Today it's Multan Electric Power Company - an IP hopper keeps repeatedly changing the first line to stupid stuff. It gets reverted but they just do it again. What's the right thing to do here - is it AN/I or is there a more specific board to go to? BugGhost 🪲👻 15:29, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * report it at WP:AIV RudolfRed (talk) 15:32, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @RudolfRed Thanks! BugGhost 🪲👻 18:28, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Since the IP apparently began vandalizing 3 days ago, I've semiprotected the article for a week. Deor (talk) 21:57, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

How to request a page edit
I'm trying to find a way to request an update to the Massachusetts Institute of Technology's page. My office manages MIT's brand, and we've updated the MIT logo and seal designs. If one of the page owners can contact us, we can provide the updated logo and seal files. 2601:192:4D00:7F90:D4C5:BBA3:F63E:B560 (talk) 16:00, 17 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi IP editor, see Simple conflict of interest edit request. If you want to email the images, you will probably need to register a Wikipedia account. TSventon (talk) 18:08, 17 June 2024 (UTC)


 * We are probably not interested in a new logo unless it is already in actual use on the internet. If it is in actual use, there is no need to e-mail it: just request the change on the article's talk page and provide a link to the web page that uses the logo. Same for the seal. But you must still declare your status as a paid editor (WP:PAID) to comply with the terms of use of the Wikipedia web site. -Arch dude (talk) 22:07, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Wikimedia Commons
Hi, I was trying to access Wikimedia commons but i am not able to do it. It does not connect to host. It does if i use VPN or proxy. What does it mean? Moreover my IP is blocked does it have to do something with it? Alragon1 (talk) 16:02, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Tallest Bridge
https://x.com/longshortgamma/status/1802353625341337624 38.29.58.138 (talk) 17:09, 17 June 2024 (UTC)


 * If you have a question about how to edit and use Wikipedia, please post it. I for one am not going to open a random link to find out what your question might be. ColinFine (talk) 18:25, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * List of tallest bridges might be what you're looking for.   [[User:CanonNi ]]  (talk • contribs) 01:24, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * It is, in case you were curious, a short and not very informative video comprised of stock clips of the Beipanjiang Bridge which is one of the tallest bridges but not the tallest. There is still no apparent question being asked. -- D'n'B-t -- 05:04, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

How can I edit the title of the page?
An organization Changed it's name, I would like to update the page to reflect the new name change Ryl321 (talk) 18:27, 17 June 2024 (UTC)


 * The answer is that this is done by moving the article; but your account is too new to have permission to move articles.
 * If you think the move is uncontroversial (which will require at the minimum, citing a reliable source that evidences the change) you may make a requested move. Otherwise, you should open a discussion about the issue on the article's talk page.
 * Is it Chabad on Campus International Foundation? And do you have a connection with this organisation? ColinFine (talk) 19:05, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

How to turn dark mode in wiki
Samw questuon qs qboc 103.99.218.124 (talk) 20:50, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * If you create an account, there is an option in preferences to enable a gadget for Dark Mode.  RudolfRed (talk) 23:57, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Template or other way to reuse citation with different quotes
Is there a template or other way to reuse a citation, with a different quote for each instance.

almost does that, but only allows for a different page number.

Thanks! -Tsavage (talk) 23:02, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * See if WP:REFNAME is what you are looking for RudolfRed (talk) 00:00, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * That doesn't seem to allow different quotes or notes for each instance. -Tsavage (talk) 01:13, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Hey Tsavage. Would the option at Template:Harvard citation no brackets work for you? Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 01:32, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @Firefangledfeathers Wow, the only word I can think of is...awesome! And seems to work in Visual editor: get template in Basic template. Oh, another word: wonderful! :) Thanks!!! -Tsavage (talk) 17:02, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Terrific! Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 17:49, 19 June 2024 (UTC)