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Wikipedia’s privacy policy
In corresponding with an organization about giving a photo with a copyleft license for their Wikipedia entry, they requested information about how to remove a semi-private studio address from their Wikipedia page. They’ve apparently had incidents regarding people coming to that address. What is the authoritative policy that is relevant in this situation? A Tree In A Box (talk) 01:07, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * There isn't one. Our privacy policies are about people, not organizations. We usually omit street addresses which aren't for public visitors but that's more about what is considered encyclopedic. I don't know the circumstances here. If it's the main address of an article subject and can be found on their website then we might show it. If it's a secondary location and they hide it from the public then we should probably omit it. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:11, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Person does not belong on page
The page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:German_military_personnel_killed_in_World_War_I contains the name of Karl Schwarzschild.

However, the article on Schwarzschild reveals that he died of natural causes after leaving the army. He was NOT killed. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Schwarzschild LarryWiki115 (talk) 02:47, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Easy enough to fix. I've removed the category from his article. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:32, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Help in Chinese Wikipedia's block
I have been wrongfully and non-logically block in Chinese Wikipedia, but my Chinese Wikipedia's IPBE have been cancelled. I can't appear in my talk page and the unblock email have no reply. So what is the solution for this problem? --Gongxiang01 (talk) 03:59, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @Gongxiang01 you were blocked for POV-pushing. Your TPA and email were not revoked, so, if you wish to address the issues and make an appeal, you need to place unblock on your talk page there. There's not much we can do about your block here.   [[User:CanonNi ]]  (talk • contribs) 04:21, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi, your word wrong, my TPA edit is blocked, where I edit my Chinese Wikipedia's talk page, it say "Your IP address have been global blocked". --Gongxiang01 (talk) 04:30, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * https://imgse.com/i/pkyTGi6 is given link for my appearing tip. It let I can't be appear.
 * The block is completely to violated to the Block Policy. It had been not to give a more details about block. Gongxiang01 (talk) 04:45, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @Gongxiang01 your IP address is locked because it is an open proxy,   [[User:CanonNi ]]  (talk • contribs) 04:58, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @CanonNi Yes, it is. I only can using Open Proxy to visit Wikipedia. Do you know reason is GFW? Gongxiang01 (talk) 05:01, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Each of the local Wikipedias is separate project with it's own policies and guidelines; so, there's not really anything anyone here on English Wikipedia can do to help with a block on Chinese Wikipedia. You are going to need to ask about that on Chinese Wikipedia. There is, however, an English Wikipedia page at WP:OPENPROXY which explains English Wikipedia's policy regarding "open proxies". If you look in the left side panel under "Languages", you'll find there is a Chinese Wikipedia page related to the same topic at zh:维基百科:开放代理方针.Perhaps the information on that page will explain what you'll need to do to get your account unblocked. For reference, might also want to take a look at the Chinese Wikipedia page zh:维基百科:IP封禁豁免, which corresponds to English Wikipedia's WP:IPBE. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:14, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I only can ask the solution here. I want to get a way to unblock. Gongxiang01 (talk) 06:13, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * As explained to you above, asking here will achieve absolutely nothing for you, because there is probably nobody at all who reads this page who has any authority whatever to do anything in Chinese Wikipedia. It's like asking the local government of a foreign city to help you in your dispute with your city. ColinFine (talk) 09:07, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Please wait for the email reply. —  魔琴  (Zauber Violino) [ talk contribs ] 02:34, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

English is too difficult
English Wikipedia's language is too difficult, it is hard to understand. Only Simple English Wikipedia can understand easily. It should be use a easier grammar, and expressions.

Is English Wikipedia not consider(考虑) to the foreign wikipedians? Gongxiang01 (talk) 05:07, 27 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi Gongxiang01, I'm sorry you have difficulty reading the English Wikipedia. Unfortunately the answer to your question is no: the English Wikipedia does not consider how easily readers with a limited understanding of English will be able to understand articles here; that is exactly the purpose of the Simple English Wikipedia and Wikipedias in other languages. If this Wikipedia were written in the same way as the Simple English Wikipedia, why have the Simple English Wikipedia at all? If you would like to read Wikipedia in Chinese, you may be interested in the Chinese Wikipedia. Tollens (talk) 05:12, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I have been blocked from Chinese Wikipedia, please see also topic above this.
 * Can I consider the foreign Wikipedians? Gongxiang01 (talk) 05:33, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * A block of one person, rightfully or not, cannot cause us to entirely rewrite Wikipedia on their behalf. If you are able to understand the Simple English Wikipedia but not the English Wikipedia, the clear solution to me would simply be using the Simple English Wikipedia. Tollens (talk) 05:36, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * It's not clear what you're asking? Do you want to know whether you can read other language Wikipedias? Do you want to know whether you can edit other language Wikipedias?Regarding reading other language Wikipedias, you should be able to do that as long as you can in some way access the Internet. Being blocked from editing Wikipedia doesn't prevent someone from reading Wikipedia; so,unless there is some kind of technical reason stopping you from accessing the Internet, you should be able to read pretty much any Wikipedia page in any language you want. Now, given that your previous posts are related to Chinese Wikipedia, any technical restrictions that might be in place where you live that prevent you from accessing the Internet or certain IP address are things that probably beyond the scope of this Help Desk and you will need to address on your end.If you're asking whether you being blocked on Chinese Wikipedia will stop you from editing other language Wikipedias, then the answer is no. Each local Wikipedia is, in principle, separate from the others when it comes to blocks; so, being blocked on Chinese Wikipedia only applies to editing Chinese Wikipedia. The fact that you're posting here at the English Wikipedia Help Desk means that you're not blocked from editing English Wikipedia; so, as long as your edits comply with English Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, you should have no problem here on English Wikipedia. The same should also apply to any other language Wikipedia. It's only when an account is globally blocked that its unable to edit any of the various Wikipedia or other Wikimedia Foundation project pages.Finally, if you're finding it difficult to understand the English used in the responses you're receiving, you can always try to use something like Google Translate (zh:Google翻译) to translate them into a language (e.g. Chinese) that you better understand. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:54, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

how to get total gdp by region?
how to get total gdp by region? 82.131.43.116 (talk) 05:38, 27 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Is List of countries by GDP (PPP) what you are looking for? Tollens (talk) 05:40, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * here > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal) 82.131.43.116 (talk) 05:42, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I am not sure whether or not you providing this link means your question has been resolved. If not, can you clarify exactly what you are trying to do? Tollens (talk) 05:46, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi! This is not for non-Wikipedia's question. For Assume good faith, it may be you not understand that what place should you send.
 * See also: Wikipedia:Help desk/Are you in the right place - Wikipedia Gongxiang01 (talk) 06:36, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Lowell High School
Do Not Change Lowell High School San Francisco Wikipedia page 2601:640:8801:3100:A898:666:E9A0:1918 (talk) 07:44, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi IP editor. You've made some changes to Lowell High School (San Francisco), were you wanting to undo them? Your question is unclear. -- D'n'B-t -- 07:51, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I wonder what's happening here. The OP changed the name of the principal from "Michael Jones" (with a reference) to "Karl Hoffman" (no reference). The external link to the school's official web site gives the message "This school's website has moved to a new URL or is inactive." https://www.sfusd.edu/school/lowell-high-school appears to be the school's real official web site, and names the principal as "Mike O. Jones".  Maproom (talk) 09:16, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I dunno, I've reverted the IP edits and the page now Protected so, if the IP did want to make a change then they can explain what they were trying to do here or on the talk page. -- D'n'B-t -- 17:21, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

font too small: new wikipedia format after Microsoft Edge update?
fixing broswer preferences didnt help and i couldnt find any other guides regarding this issue. tried reinstalling the browser and tinkering with wiki account settings but no luck;

if anyone has any solutions to this, please help! tia Space011 (talk) 10:27, 27 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi @Space011. Maybe an obvious question, but have you tried resetting the browser zoom? Go to the three dots menu ... in the top right corner, and adjust Zoom.
 * I'm on Edge and see no issues with the font size.  Qcne  (talk)  11:22, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * You can also zoom with shortcuts: for larger,  for smaller,  for standard. It also zooms other content like images. If you are logged in with Vector 2022 as skin at Special:Preferences then you hay have a glasses icon at top of pages to change text size. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:28, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * cntrl 0 solved it, thank you so much (cntrl with pluses and minuses not so much) Space011 (talk) 20:39, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * i did but no luck. luckily someone here suggested to try control 0 and it worked! Space011 (talk) 20:40, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Changing the name of an entry
Hi! I am working on an update to a page for a large institution that is undergoing an official name change. Is it possible to edit the page title of the current entry (I'm not finding that option), or do I need to create a new one and update the current one to say it is no longer?

Any help with understanding the best practice here would be grand. Thanks! Ucmturn (talk) 13:24, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @Ucmturn pages are 'renamed' by moving them to a new location, see Moving a page for more info. Since your account is not autoconfirmed yet, you may need to make a request at WP:RMTR. Before you make the request, please make sure that there are reliable sources confirming the name change.   [[User:CanonNi ]]  (talk • contribs) 13:29, 27 June 2024 (UTC)


 * @Ucmturn the wording of your question suggests that you may be being paid for updating the page. If so you need to disclose this, see WP:PAID. TSventon (talk) 15:50, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

question re page location
could you please tell me what page here would provide details on the movement charter vote? I have been actually involved in the discussion on this elsewhere, but actually i don't know what is the location of that page here. Sm8900 (talk) 13:25, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @Sm8900 the details are at Movement Charter.   [[User:CanonNi ]]  (talk • contribs) 13:30, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Help with italic title
I've got a case of italic title not playing nice in infobox book at Resistance (Star Trek). It's doing the default thing, which means "Resistance" (a novel) is italicized while "Star Trek" is not. I can't get it to italicize both, even with DISPLAYTITLE. I've encountered this before and would appreciate learning how to troubleshoot! — TARDIS builder &#9993;    &#9733;       15:04, 27 June 2024 (UTC)


 * @TARDIS Builder: Looks like @Cryptic has fixed it. Bazza 7 (talk) 16:18, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Notably good articles created by a banned or blocked user
I am aware of the G5 policy Wikipedia has. However, what if an article created by a banned or blocked user was actually a good article, well sourced, well written, and about a notable subject worthy of having its own page on Wikipedia? Is there no exception to the G5 policy? Per Copyrights surely we are allowed to copy what was written in a deleted article from a banned or blocked user and repost it? I understand the purpose of G5 is to prevent further disruption to Wikipedia and BLOCK and BAN make that clear: to prevent further disruption. However, surely if the user has since been banned and the deleted article they created has been carefully analyzed and confirmed that it was actually a well written, well sourced, and good article, that such deleted article could be restored, even if it is simply copied and pasted by another Wikipedia user? What are the rules surrounding this? Inexpiable (talk) 16:38, 27 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Inexpiable, the rules are short, see WP:BANREVERT. Note that G5 is for articles published by a banned editor after their ban, not those written before the editor was banned. See also WP:COPYWITHIN for rules on copying within Wikipedia. You could ask the deleting admin to copy to draft or ask at WP:REFUND if the deleting admin is not available. Whether a particular article is "actually a good article" is likely to be a matter of opinion. TSventon (talk) 17:23, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Table of Contents Missing
Hi, I'm not sure what I did but now, when I read articles, there is no table of contents. I just see the toolbar on the right and the main menu (with nothing above/below it) on the left. The only things I've really done with settings is enable Twinkle, Hotcat, etc. so I'm not sure why it could suddenly disappear. Any advice on how to bring it back? Thanks and cheers, ~ GoldRomean (talk) 18:18, 27 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi @GoldRomean. This is a frustrating new feature of the Mediawiki Vector 2022 skin, which is rolling out to users.
 * The ToC is now automatically hidden. You can find it in the new icon next to the article title. If you click that icon, you can then select move to sidebar and it'll go back to how it used to look.  Qcne  (talk)  18:30, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Wow, thanks so much! GoldRomean (talk) 20:59, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Business page deleted
Our business page was deleted. OPCC OPCC (talk) 18:35, 27 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Hello @OPCC OPCC. Do you have a question about editing Wikipedia? Nobody has their own business page here. Are you referring to a Wikipedia article? If so which one? Shantavira|feed me 18:57, 27 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Hello, is this about Overland Park Convention Center? That article was replaced with a redirect because the subject didn't appear to be notable enough to warrant an article. -- D'n'B-t -- 19:48, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Grammar Issues and Source issues
On the article Mamie Van Doren which I have heavily worked on in the past three weeks, I’ve seen source problems and grammar and spelling issues. Can I get help with that? GreyChen (talk) 20:29, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * You'd better attend to c:Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by GreyChen before anything else. -- Hoary (talk) 04:37, 28 June 2024 (UTC)


 * @GreyChen You can make a request at WP:GOCE to ask for copy-editing. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:27, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I made some edits. Have fun! The article looks good from a grammar/spelling lens. This should be resolved! Hanoi2020 (talk) 17:11, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

, you deleted this discussion thread. If you want to close a discussion, please do so according to the instructions at Talk page guidelines; please do not delete the thread. -- Hoary (talk) 12:18, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

cite book
i put the cursor in the correct place in the text, then i clicked "cite" from the toolbar, then from the popup offering "add a citation" at the top, in a row below offerings are "automatic manual re-use", in a line below that is "website book" i choose "book". then a column of fields is shown on the left, at the top is "hide unused fields" i choose that. the used fields all have solid blue boxes with white check marks, EXCEPT "title". this field has a grey solid box with a white check mark. ON THE RIGHT IS A COLUMN OF EMPTY ENTERING BOXES. the entering boxes are all empty EXCEPT “TITLE” WHICH HAS AN ASTERISK AT THE FAR RIGHT. above EVERY one, there is a name and instructions how to enter information in that box, INCLUDING TITLE. here is the instruction above the title box "The title of the book; displays in italics Field is required."

**** CAN YOU FIND ANYTHING THAT COULD BE CAUSING AN ASTERISK IN THE BOX AND THE GHOSTED BOX IN THE FIELDS COLUMN?

**** what bothers me is that the title field box on the left is ghosted out, and the asterisk is already in the title entry box on the right before i enter anything MikeMARS52 (talk) 22:20, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * The asterisk indicates the field is required, meaning you have to fill it out. An asterisk is a standard symbol for this. The asterisk is not part of the value of the field. The checkbox is grey to indicate you cannot change it (because it's a required field you aren't allowed to remove). Grey is a standard way to mark something you cannot change. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:24, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I think the Title field and entry box are not of any interest. My bad. the title of the book is coming through to the template created reference at the bottom of the artical.
 * The problem is that there is an apparent  error  showing at the end of the completed reference. RED letters - "Check date values in |year=
 * at the end is a blue "(help)"
 * when i tap the help it offers "References List" at the top of the box, and inside the box says "Use this group, General references, Use responsive column layout"
 * This "Help" is totally incomprehensible!
 * can you help me clear the error that is apparently or potentially can torpedo my reference---I have checked the dates a dozens of times.  I own the book, it is right here on my desk! 
 * I this to be ignored or is something required? if required, i have no idea.
 * THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP!
 * MikeMARS52
 * MikeMARS52 (talk) 23:52, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
 * That blue help link should take you to the appropriate section of Help:CS1 errors (click that link). I presume that you are using the visual editor.  I don't (won't ever) use that editor so can't help with that.  What is the date that you are attempting to use?  Is the date's format one that is accepted by Wikipedia (there is a large table of malformed date examples and how they should be written at the help link).
 * This is the reference?
 * Too many dates is too many dates. For a book, all you need is 2023 or 2023; choose one.  Another comment: location gets the city name and nothing else so rewriting the template:
 * Also, get rid of the ; see Help:Referencing for beginners.
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 01:21, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
 * THANK YOU SO MUCH!! i am pretty sure i can do this. it makes sense
 * As you may have suspected, this is my first attempt to create an article. I have been so frustrated that i couldn't find somewhere someone would answer what seemed easy questions. Every one i contacted (eg googled person), my alma matre english dept, others - all wanted money.
 * May i ask occasional questions if i have gotten stymied? i promise i won't bury you with questions that i can figure out. i spent hours trying to sort this out
 * Best Wishes,
 * MikeMARS52
 * MikeMARS52 (talk) 13:53, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Answering questions about using and editing Wikipedia is the purpose of the Help desk. If editors here don't know the answer to your question, they can often point you to a better place to ask.
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 15:56, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
 * May i ask occasional questions if i have gotten stymied? i promise i won't bury you with questions that i can figure out. i spent hours trying to sort this out
 * Best Wishes,
 * MikeMARS52
 * MikeMARS52 (talk) 13:53, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Answering questions about using and editing Wikipedia is the purpose of the Help desk. If editors here don't know the answer to your question, they can often point you to a better place to ask.
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 15:56, 29 June 2024 (UTC)