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Arthur's Seat and other locations in Edinburgh
Author Jude Stringfellow has mentioned Arthur's Seat and other locations in Edinburgh and Scotland in her novels. They are available on Amazon. One is even called "Edinburgh". She wrote "Of Kilted Pleasure" as well, and "Murder Book" as well as "Pinball" take place in Scotland. Perhaps you could write up a page about her or at least mention her writings on the pages where she mentions Edinburgh and Arthur's seat. 2600:8803:D900:E500:8592:119A:3C36:8BA (talk) 00:23, 9 June 2024 (UTC)


 * The proper place to make a request for your suggested subject is Requested articles/Biography/By profession. Please make sure to provide multiple significant coverage of the subject from reliable and independent sources along with your request. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 03:50, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
 * All her books appear to be self-published. Since anyone can self-publish a book and sell it on Amazon she is unlikely to merit a Wikipedia aticle, unless she has multiple significant coverage in reliable and independent sources. Any "mention" in Wikipedia could then reflect what those sources say. Please note that Wikipedia cannot be used to promote her books. Shantavira|feed me 08:57, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

List of minor planets
I am trying to find the list of minor planets named after animals and plants. I have used it before in the past but I cannot find it anymore, it apparently no longer exists. 1) What happened to it? 2) Why was it taken down? 3) When will it be restored? Lassoharp (talk) 05:47, 9 June 2024 (UTC)


 * I don't know about Wikipedia. There's such a list here on DBpedia.  Maproom (talk) 07:33, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
 * It was recently deleted since editors determined it was a non-encyclopedic cross-categorization. It is unlikely to be restored, since the consensus was to delete. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 07:48, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Merge draft article and redirect
Hi. So I just prepared the draft, Saving Bikini Bottom: The Sandy Cheeks Movie for the main space and I feel it is more then ready. However I can't move it because of this redirect that shares the same name as the draft. Can I have help here? Zingo156 (talk) 11:29, 9 June 2024 (UTC)


 * You can edit the redirect page to remove its target, and post the content of your draft there. You should also place Template:Main under the subsection heading of the redirect target, in this case SpongeBob SquarePants (film series), to link to the new article. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 12:28, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
 * So what happens to the draft after I do this? Zingo156 (talk) 14:12, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
 * If left unedited for six months, it will be deleted by admin. You can also make the draft redirect to the new article. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 15:21, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

OneClickArchiver not working
Is it just me or is User:Evad37/OneClickArchiver not working? I'm not getting the "archive" button on any talk page. &#126;~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:29, 9 June 2024 (UTC)


 * May be related to WP:VPT. Haven't attempted to reproduce, but I remember that script being mentioned as potentially breaking under the new markup due to maintainer inactivity. Folly Mox (talk) 13:55, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @Folly Mox@AirshipJungleman29, You can use @Elli's new script located at User:Elli/OneClickArchiver.  NW1223 &lt; Howl at me &bull; My hunts &gt; 16:40, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Upload photos
I'm trying to upload some new photos for wikipedia pages but for some reason I cant find a way to do so and dont understand why. I want to load photos I have taken. SnarkyDragon (talk) 14:21, 9 June 2024 (UTC)


 * , please check out WP:UPI, and know that uploading photos will likely take you through Wikimedia Commons, and that the licensing requirements are strict and taken seriously. If you have further problems after having read through the linked information page and followed the guidance therein, please do specify them for us. Kindly, Folly Mox (talk) 14:27, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you sorted now :) SnarkyDragon (talk) 14:32, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Hello, SnarkyDragon. While the two pictures c: File:Skipness Bay, Argyll, 9th June 2024.jpg and c:File:Skipness Watchtower, 9th June 2024, taken on iPhone SE.jpg look fine, the third picture you uploaded, c:File:Aerial view of Skipness House and Shell Bay (note WW2 arrow marker bottom Right Hand Side).png appears to be a screenshot of Google Maps: if so, it is an infringement of their copyright, and will soon be deleted. (You have a notification on your Commons talk page, C:User talk:SnarkyDragon, but I don't know whether you will be aware of that.) ColinFine (talk) 18:07, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Just delete it then. I’m not too happy that Wiki have just jumped on someone trying to add information using their own time and good will. 2A00:23C6:3E13:2001:3019:F862:3334:2C6D (talk) 18:08, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately we are vulnerable to litigious intellectual property holders, and are therefore extremely shy and cautious about potential copyright violations. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  18:43, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you Mike - it’s somewhat frustrating when people are just trying to provide high quality information with good intentions but I also understand how careful you have to be these days. SnarkyDragon (talk) 18:51, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Adding to a Wikipedia page
Hello

I wanted to add my book 'Happy as Larry: A New York Story fo CUlts, Crushes and Quaaludes' ISBN 978-1726658393 to the Saul Newton page since my book touches on my personal experience with the Sullivanian cult. Why was it removed and what can I do to rectify this?

Many thanks for your guidance.

Best wishes

Kaethe Cherney Kaethe Cherney (talk) 16:07, 9 June 2024 (UTC)


 * You can start by reading Conflict of interest. If your book merits discussion in the Saul Newton page, it will be because independent published reliable sources have discussed it in relation to Newton. A Quick Google search doesn't come up with anything obvious (note that 'reviews' written by book retailers etc aren't independent, since they sell the book, and thus have a stake in promoting it). If you can find some in-depth coverage of your book from an acceptable source, start a discussion on the article talk page, where we can assess it and decide whether it merits inclusion. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:16, 9 June 2024 (UTC)


 * To add to the above, I now see that your book is apparently a work of fiction, though possibly based on Newton's 'cult'. This would almost certainly make it ineligible for inclusion in the article, and it certainly doesn't belong in 'further reading', as you appear to have attempted to add it. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:24, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
 * It's also self-published. Shantavira|feed me 08:22, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I was the one who removed it. I'm sure it's a worthwhile book, but (as noted above) it's fiction. NeoAdamite (talk) 01:35, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

The First World Flight
Why cant I find my Grandfather Lt. Robert J. Brown Jr. Trainer of pilots WW1 in Texas U.S. Air Service -Chairman of First  World Flight -In Lowell Thomas Book - Builder of Logan Airport-  Commander in charge of base in Hawaii 1926 t0 1930.I Found his brother (My Uncle Bump)  Gen. Wilburt Scott Brown. Thanks 24.198.64.174 (talk) 22:44, 9 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Hello. The answer to "Why does Wikipedia not have an article about X" is usually one or both of:
 * Because nobody has written one, or
 * Because X does not meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability.
 * If 2. holds then an article is not possible. If it does not, then an article is possible, but will only exist if some volunteer has chosen to write it.
 * I am dubious that the article Wilburt S. Brown is adequately sourced to demonstrate that he meets those criteria, because I'm not sure that any of the sources cited is truly independent. There may be other, independent sources, which do establish his notability (in Wikipedia's sense). ColinFine (talk) 23:05, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Leaving aside the issue of whether or not Wilburt S. Brown is notable, I think that it is fairly obvious that a two star general in the US military is much more likely to be notable than a lieutenant. There are occasional exceptions, of course, but in the end, it all comes down to the depth of coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the person in question. Audie Murphy, for example, also only reached the rank of lieutenant during his active service during World War II, but he was the subject of massive coverage because of his conspicuous heroism in combat. And most of his accomplishments were as an ordinary enlisted soldier, not as an officer. It is all about the extent of the coverage in reliable, independent sources. Cullen328 (talk) 08:18, 10 June 2024 (UTC)