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Is a picture of breast milk considered adult content?
See title 2607:FEA8:28E1:8800:21B8:717C:4077:C8CC (talk) 00:42, 12 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Considered adult content for what purpose? Breast milk has several. Depending on context, a picture of breast milk can certainly be seen as unnecessary. WP includes several pictures that can be considered "adult content". Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:21, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I would suggest reading WP:CENSOR, I think that should awnser whatever your implicit question is. -- D'n'B-t -- 06:38, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't at all see how an image of a cup of a substance identified as breast milk is "adult content"(perhaps the OP could explain), and even if it were, Wikipedia is not censored. As to whether an image is necessary, that's another issue that depends on context. It's certainly reasonable on the breast milk article. 331dot (talk) 12:42, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
 * IP user, there are ways to avoid seeing images that may offend you; you can install software/adjust your settings on your end to block them, or you can take steps when using Wikipedia(though those require an account, see WP:NOSEE). 331dot (talk) 12:45, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
 * And the content of this hypothetical cup can certainly be argued not to be "adult content". Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:22, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Force collapse navboxes
Is there a script or piece of CSS that will force collapse navboxes on pages I view? So many break page formatting on narrow screens due to the over use of nowrap. -- LCU A ctively D isinterested  «@» °∆t° 11:44, 12 May 2024 (UTC)


 * I suspoect you'd have more luck asking this particular question over at WP:VPT. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 18:25, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
 * That was my first thought, but I second guessed myself. -- LCU A ctively D isinterested  «@» °∆t° 18:56, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Karelian National Movement
This page spreads false information about me and my organization. After I corrected the information myself, I was prohibited from editing this page. I have two questions: 1. Is Wikipedia responsible for spreading false information? 2. How to correct false information? MiteriPanfilov (talk) 15:41, 12 May 2024 (UTC)


 * @MiteriPanfilov There is general advice at WP:ASFAQ. I haven't investigated your particular situation. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:55, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Please investigate this issue.
 * I'll give just one example
 * https://www.severreal.org/a/mozhet-li-kareliya-otdelitsya-ot-rossii-/32235862.html
 * This is the link on the basis of which the Karta with the article specified in the article is assigned to my organization
 * Stop the occupation of Karelia
 * Although the same link indicates the name of the organization Karelian National Movement and Oleinik speaks about this in an interview,
 * But not Kuznetsov Dmitry!!!
 * Please remove false information from the page!!! MiteriPanfilov (talk) 16:02, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
 * This is a help desk, offering general advice. We don't 'investigate' article content here. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:07, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Which court can I go to? I wrote several messages but no one answered me how to correct the false information!! MiteriPanfilov (talk) 16:13, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
 * There are no 'courts' on Wikipedia. You have been told to read WP:ASFAQ. On your talk page, you have been given further advice on how to handle this. I strongly suggest you take the time to read the advice you have been given, and then discuss the matter on the article talk page. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:18, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Editors may want to see the discussion at WP:ANI. Deor (talk) 22:13, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Question on notability (crossposted from here, just in case)
When did gender/sexuality suddenly become such a notable trait to the point where being a certain gender/sexuality makes you more notable than someone of a different gender/sexuality? Especially if it's not the typical male/female thing you usually get. Like, maybe I don't get it 'cause I'm a straight white dude who's never been attacked for something like that but like big whoop? Why should anyone, regardless of where you stand on the issue, care THAT much over who someone decides to fuck? Like it just seems to me both sides, gender nonconforming types and the intolerant people railing against them need to take a step back and wonder if this is REALLY something to get THAT worked up over. Live your life, fuck whomever you wanna fuck and don't make it other people's problems, simple.

PS SO glad my favorite jerk from my favorite show out now has an article. Americanfreedom (talk) 20:13, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Your user page says you're taking a long break from Wikipedia, for your sanity. That sounds a good idea. --1.33.56.248 (talk) 20:43, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
 * @Americanfreedom Did you have a question about editing Wikipedia....?  Qcne  (talk)  21:46, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Middleton family
I may have accidently ruined the top of the page - the line in red. Is it necessary? Please check. 115.70.23.77 (talk) 22:49, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi!Sorry for the delay for getting you a response!Your edits unlinked some words to articles, it has been fixed already :).Cheers,  Coco bb8  (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 16:30, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Video games with the same title, branding, etc.
There are a lot of video games (particularly from the 90s and 2000s) where two video games exist with the same title, branding, cover art, and everything-- but with different developers, on different platforms. A notable example is Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Double Agent, a less notable one being Need for Speed: Undercover.

However, there doesn't seem to be a consensus on what should be done when these games are extremely different from one another. This happens most frequently with handheld games, where the versions across systems share practically nothing beyond top-level genre and theme. If a game exists on Game Boy Advance or Nintendo DS as well as home consoles, those two games likely have next to nothing in common.

I'd like to ask for guidance as to when a game should be separated into its own article, and when it should be included as a sub-section within a top-level article. While this may seem like it has a blanket answer, I do not believe it does, and I ask that you read my examples for my explanation of why. I'd appreciate rationale so I can apply these to future articles and edits. If I should not be separating these games into their own articles, I would like advice on how to better organize information about them in existing ones, as existing articles do this in many different ways and almost always end up mixing the information in with the main article body, leaving it hard to research specifically these other versions.

Here are four examples:

Road Rash (Game Boy Color) came out in 2000 and uses the branding and theme of Road Rash (1994 video game) but the content is most similar to Road Rash II. The confusing part here is that it came out in 2000, shares a name with the 1994 game as well as Road Rash (1991 video game) but uses the content of neither. At present, the GBC version is described inline on the Road Rash II page, but little information is given and there is no reference to its relationship with the 1994 game. The 1994 game's article is already covering five other versions that share little with the GBC version, and I am concerned that introducing the GBC version into the mix would make for an overly long article that veers a bit off topic, while creating a nightmare in the Reception section. I believe Road Rash (GBC, 2000) should have its own article.

Need for Speed: Porsche Unleashed is a 2000 racing game for PlayStation and Windows. The PS1 and PC versions are wholly different videogames that share a concept and soundtrack but little else. There is also a 2004 Game Boy Advance game by the same name, which is a translation of the PC version to the handheld. It is currently only mentioned in the article's infobox. I believe these three versions of the game should share an article.

However, in stark contrast to Porsche Unleashed, later Need for Speed games exist across multiple handhelds with completely different developers. Need for Speed: ProStreet was available on home consoles as well as Nintendo DS and PlayStation Portable. The home console versions were developed by EA Black Box, while the DS and PSP games were each handed off to separate B-Teams that made completely different games. I am torn on whether these justify their own articles, but they do not make sense structurally within the existing article.

Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Rogue Spear is a multiplatform tactical shooter. There are significant differences between the PlayStation version and the others, but they are minor enough for WIkipedia's purposes that the PS1 version can coexist with the Dreamcast, PC and Mac ones. However, there is also a Game Boy Advance port. It is not mentioned in the body of the article at all and is a top-down game with wholly different content. It is a completely different game from the others, and I feel it warrants its own article. Similar conundrums exist for the Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell games on GBA, which are side-scrolling action games.

Please let me know how I should proceed. I am going to begin working on a draft of the Game Boy Color version of Road Rash.

Kaceydotme (talk) 23:48, 12 May 2024 (UTC)


 * WikiProject Video games is a better place to ask about this: the editors there can give more specialized advice. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 04:14, 13 May 2024 (UTC)