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Help to resolve a dispute
There is a dispute at Transgender flag. My first thought was to seek an administrator but have since explored the dispute resolution mechanisms.

The minimal discussion on the talk page hasn't been productive because one editor isn't receptive. I have been unable to post a "Request dispute resolution" for some technical reason.

I need help. I ca supply background on request. Humpster (talk) 03:27, 14 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Humphrey Tribble, the guidance on dispute resolution has a WP:SEEKHELP section, which suggests posting a notice at a relevant wikiproject if talkpage discussion has not resolved the issue. You could try WikiProject LGBT studies. Please keep the notice neutral per WP:CANVASS. TSventon (talk) 10:43, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I will attempt that process. Thanks for your advice.
 * This query can be marked resolved. Humpster (talk) 18:22, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Syria
Is there currently any Troops  from the US Airforce  located in Syria 2603:6011:ED00:7714:E111:41D9:7B41:97D (talk) 12:05, 14 May 2024 (UTC)


 * IP editor, I would suggest asking at Reference desk/Humanities. You could search for relevant Wikipedia articles, but the information there might not be up to date. TSventon (talk) 12:32, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Is someone allowed to ban you from their talk page?
I used an unsuitable template for warning a user today, see: User talk:Hob Gadling. He was very harsh and said, "You are not welcome on my talk page. Please refrain from editing it in the future." Is someone allowed to ban you from their talk page? What if I have any legitimate questions for that editor in the future? It scared me, and I doubt I can sleep well tonight. I really didn't mean to annoy or offend that editor. I used that template because it looked more gentle and less harsh than the other template. I have enough stress in university to deal with already. Félix An (talk) 12:30, 14 May 2024 (UTC)


 * The article in question: The God Delusion Félix An (talk) 12:36, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm hoping that sees your apology here and your good intentions- but yes, if an editor asks you to refrain from using their user talk page, it should generally be respected.  You can use article talk pages to ask questions about edits. 331dot (talk) 12:43, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * "Harsh"? I don't see it - I thought Hob Gadling was quite restrained, considering. But no, people can't actually ban you from their page, but you are strongly recommended to respect a request to stay away, and only post there if you must — for example, if you take somebody to WP:ANI, you must alert them to that fact. As for the template you used looking more gentle, I suggest you don't use any template without actually reading its text first. If you didn't notice the problems I have pointed out (on your talkpage), I'm not sure you did read it with any care, this time. You didn't write the template, but if you post it, you take responsibility for what it says. Bishonen &#124; tålk 12:49, 14 May 2024 (UTC).
 * I retract that; you can use my Talk page if you think you need to. But generally, I don't like messages on my talk page a lot, I prefer communicating in article talk pages, since articles are usually what I want to talk about. --Hob Gadling (talk) 13:32, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Delete page
My picture is used on this page, but i don't know how to report or edit it.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Joep_Kuppers_.jpg 145.89.4.204 (talk) 14:17, 14 May 2024 (UTC)


 * This is covered by Commons:Photographs of identifiable people. This involves Commons which is separate from Wikipedia. Quote:

The subject, photographer, or uploader of an image may request that it be removed from Commons. The reasons for removal may include such things as "It causes embarrassment" or "It was published without my consent", etc. Generally, images are not removed simply because the subject does not like them, but administrators are normally sympathetic to removal requests if good reasons can be given. In any case you may address a removal request through the normal public review process of a deletion request. If discretion is required, a deletion request explaining this may also be sent privately through Commons:Contact us/Problems.

This is the best option.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 14:25, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Categories - Italicized and referring to a section within an article
I am trying to add to a category, a fictional character who does not have their own article. But I have seen that you can link the article with said character in, and on the category page it comes up in italics. For example in the Category:Fictional surfers there is David Kawena who doesn't have his own article but is listed in this category and when you click on it, you are directed to List of Lilo & Stitch characters. However, what is puzzling for me is that in the category section of this article, Category:Fictional surfers does not appear. My question is how do I add a TV series article to a category page that appears as the name of the character in italics, but redirects to the character section within that article? PitterPatter533 (talk) 18:30, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * David Kawena is a redirect page. To see the page itself, you can click on the link, scroll to the top of the page and click on the link in Redirected from David Kawena. Redirect explains how to create a redirect, target it to a section of an article and add it to a category. TSventon (talk) 18:48, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I see, thank you. If I go to the David Kawena redirect page (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=David_Kawena&redirect=no though, List of Lilo & Stitch characters does not appear as one of the categories. So I'm curious as to how it got there. PitterPatter533 (talk) 14:49, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
 * PitterPatter533 the link to List of Lilo & Stitch characters is towards the top of the page, above the Template:Redirect category shell, while the categories are at the bottom, if that helps. TSventon (talk) 15:00, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Ok, I think I understand now - thanks for the help! PitterPatter533 (talk) 17:46, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

my Wikipedia account that i made in en.wikipedia doesn't work in ro.wikipedia
i tried to log in in ro.wikipedia but to add a source but it said "This account's or IP address's access to modifying pages has been stopped. This does not prevent you from reading the pages. You have been blocked by (Redacted) for the following reason (see blocking policy): Abuse of multiple accounts (Sock puppetry): Insistent vandal with football teams and localities items." i didn't do anything that says in the message but i stil can edit in en.wikipedia where i have my account. what do i do ? KoreHades (talk) 19:44, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * According to Special:CentralAuth/KoreHades your account has not made any edits on ro.wikipedia, and your account is not blocked there. It's likely that your IP is blocked there. Meters (talk) 19:52, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * how can i make that my ip is not blocked there so i can add that source ? KoreHades (talk) 20:07, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * You can't get the IP unblocked. You would have to ask there, but that Wiki probably has has a procedure to allow logged in users to edit through an IP block, but given that you have almost no editing history you might not be able to convince an admin that you are not the same user as the blocked IP. Meters (talk) 20:41, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Article not on Google search
A recent article I wrote, Belle Meade Gun Club has not appeared on Google search after the usual 30 day process. It comes up on on "Wikiwand" which appears to be a copy. Can you help please? Eagledj (talk) 20:12, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * @Eagledj: Articles don't get indexed until a new pages patroller reviews it or at least 90 days have passed, whichever comes first. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:14, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * @Eagledj In the meantime it may be mirrored or copied anywhere on websites such as Wikiwand, provided they attribute Wikipedia: everything saved/published here is immediately licensed as CC BY-SA 4.0, irrespective of whether a search engine has picked it up. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:02, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
 * .... incidentally you seem to be well qualified to become WP:Autopatrolled, in which case your newly-written articles would be available immediately to search engines. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:14, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Since I created Belle Meade Gun Club, I have created Blades Brown (golfer). The latter went to Google within 2 days, so I began to wonder why the weeks of delay on the former. Can you index the Gun Club article for me, or find out why the "autopatrolled" is not working in this case? Thanks, Eagledj (talk) 14:17, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
 * You are not autopatrolled so indexing of your article creations is not allowed automatically. Mike means you look like a good candidate if you apply. See WP:Autopatrolled. If the creator is not autopatrolled then it's unpredictable when or if an article will be reviewed by a user with the required right to allow indexing before 90 days. At top of page histories you can click "View logs for this page" to see that Belle Meade Gun Club was reviewed yesterday (today in some time zones) while Blades Brown (golfer) was reviewed 13 May. You can also use your browser to search the html source for "noindex". Neither article has it now but Belle Meade Gun Club had it when you first posted. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:15, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Looking for digital versions of physical magazines
Hi! I've been working on an article for the album Where the Angels Fall, but I'm not entirely happy with the critical reception section. I haven't been able to find any English-language reviews of the album. Does anybody know where I'd be able to easily access and search through digital versions of physical music magazines? (a bit like this) I think I'll be able to find some reviews of the album in them. Thanks!  Supreme Lord Bagel  (talk to me) 20:43, 14 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Possibly The Wikipedia Library could be of some help. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 21:22, 14 May 2024 (UTC)


 * It sounds like this isn't what you want, but on the off chance that I'm wrong, here are links to stories on "Where the Angels Fall" in Rolling Stone Australia and Australian Musician. Fabrickator (talk) 22:44, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * @Fabrickator, the editor was referring to where they can get many. Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 22:50, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I am already inline with the article. Thanks for this great contribution. You're already good to research in the Wikipedia Library. Kudos to you too. Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 22:47, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Joal Stanfield
Why was Joal Stanfield deleted. MagicalPrince863 (talk) 21:14, 14 May 2024 (UTC)


 * the deletion log says the following: "Expired PROD, concern was: Non-notable person who fails to meet WP:GNG. Only claim to notability presented is that he coached a high school tennis team. No sources found in a Google search and almost everything presented in this article was gathered from an obituary." The page's history indicates that you edited it three times while the proposed deletion tag was on it. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 21:18, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * It was deleted because of the PROD tag on it. Another editor tagged it per the concerns above and after seven days of initiation, it'll be deleted. Do read the rationale above, "Non-notable person who fails to meet WP:GNG. Only...". Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 22:37, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * That article made no plausible claim of notability, . Cullen328 (talk) 00:08, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

How can Joal Stanfield be notable MagicalPrince863 (talk) 00:29, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
 * MagicalPrince863, one or more editors would have to create Draft:Joal Stanfield, citing reliable sources (plural) to demonstrate that he is "notable" as defined by and for Wikipedia. -- Hoary (talk) 01:09, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
 * , no amount of editing can create notability where it does not exist. He was a school teacher and high school tennis coach who sadly died at 35. According to WP:NPERSON, This person was not a university professor with major research accomplishments.This person did not coach world class tennis players. His death, though tragic for his family and friends, was not unique or highly unusual. Cullen328 (talk) 01:29, 15 May 2024 (UTC)