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Template dagger malfunctioning
Immediate assistance required because template:dagger currently outing this †, Anoop Bhatia (talk) 01:21, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * You just asked about this at WP:THQ. There's no thing to ask the very same question on a different forum, particularly within 20 minutes of each other. Please be patient and wait for someone to repsond to your Teahouse question (some people already have). The world isn't going to end due to the dagger template malfunctioning, if it even is malfunctioning in the first place. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:30, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

updation state president TAMILNADU G.SRINIVASAN NATIONAL PEOPLES PARTY FROM JUNE 21ST 2023
updation state president TAMILNADU G.SRINIVASAN NATIONAL PEOPLES PARTY FROM JUNE 21ST 2023 120.60.117.218 (talk) 05:12, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Can you provide a published reliable source for the specific change you want to make? Cullen328 (talk) 05:18, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi IP user, I just wanted to point out that you should avoid typing in all caps as this can be perceived as yelling by other editors.  Coco bb8  (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 19:34, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Newcomer task
It appears that the “so called” Newcomer task is already a disaster in progress. Despite being a regular editor I had not heard of it until 17 May 2024, when I noticed a piece of text in Highway 1 (Queensland) had been removed and replaced with identical text, and with no explanation other than “Newcomer task” on 16 May 2024.

I asked the question “How can the removal of information be described as a newcomer task?”. I have since been accused of making an unreferenced removal. How can this occur, and just what is a “Newcomer task”?

When this is sorted out please tak a look at Abernethy Road, where I asked a similar question and have not received any response. Downsize43 (talk) 05:16, 22 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Those "Newcomer task" tags link to this page which should explain more thoroughly than I will be able to do here. Essentially, they are edits by new editors made to pages tagged as needing cleanup. It isn't an endorsement of the edit in any way, it is just intended to flag that the editor is new and was brought to that article rather than finding it on their own. Tollens (talk) 05:21, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I'll additionally note that the edit of 15 May on Abernethy Road didn't remove text and then replace it with identical text, it instead added two citations. Tollens (talk) 05:24, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Also on Highway 1 (Queensland), you may have been looking at the wrong diff. The edit flagged as a newcomer task did not remove any information – the edit removing information was another editor undoing the previous "newcomer task" edit because it was unsourced. Tollens (talk) 05:26, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Hello, . My first observation is that newcomers often make mistakes, and that is not surprising. I suggest that you read Growth Team features which explains newcomer tasks in great detail. If you still have concerns, then Wikipedia talk:Growth Team features is probably the best place to discuss them. Cullen328 (talk) 05:30, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Finally found something on Archive 1. Hardly the best place for it. Urgently need to get it "out there" somewhere and let the world know. Downsize43 (talk) 06:41, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Both your descriptions of what happened in the newcomer task are incorrect so I wonder whether you know how diffs work. In the page history, click the "prev" link in the line tagged with "Newcomer task" to get . The left-hand side is before the edit and the right-hand side is after. The edit added this text: . A Google search shows it's correct but it was unsourced and maybe not important enough for the lead so somebody reverted it in this edit. This time "Newcomer task" is on the left side which is before the edit so the removal is not itself the newcomer task. See more at Help:Diff. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:23, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Whichever way you look at it the fact remains that the replacement of the previously removed text has no reference, therefore it is entitled to be questioned or removed. I was merely questioning why there was no reference for the added “fact”. Downsize43 (talk) 07:22, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Update New Description for Company Profile
Hi Team,

I want to update Godrej Properties current description. Could you please help me on this? 182.78.53.202 (talk) 06:16, 22 May 2024 (UTC)


 * It depends on what you want to say and whether there is a conflict of interest involved in some way with the company; see also WP:BOSS. It also has to be said that Godrej Properties may have difficulty meeting the general notability guideline in its current form due to an excess of primary sourcing.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 07:06, 22 May 2024 (UTC)


 * 182.78.53.202 is registered to Godrej Industries Ltd.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 08:02, 22 May 2024 (UTC)


 * On Talk:Godrej Properties, make your edit request(s). Be sure to make it clear that you're an employee of the company that's the subject of the article. -- Hoary (talk) 09:10, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Audio timing
Is it possible to make the audio start from a specific second? For example: an audio is 20 seconds long and I want it to start at second 13. Is it possible to do this? Evolution-tasks2.pngBruce The Deus sandbox icon.svg 14:07, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * . See Extended image syntax. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:45, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks! W!k.pngIps1.pngtion-tasks2.pngBruce The Deus sandbox icon.svg 14:48, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

correcting an error of fact in an article
In the article on Frederick Russell Burnham, in the "Mexico" section, it describes a presidential summit taking place in 1909. It lists a number of agencies providing security and includes the FBI. The FBI did not exist in 1909. 2600:6C40:5800:4BD:7C19:89AF:F8E1:243E (talk) 15:53, 22 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Every article has a talk page, in this case Talk: Frederick Russell Burnham, which is where discussion of article content should typically take place. Note that our article on the Federal Bureau of Investigation does not quite back up your own claim. 57.140.16.48 (talk) 16:02, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Changing infobox to...?
So I'm in a bit of a conundrum here. I wanted to update Topps but apparently, it was acquired by Fanatics in 2022. How would I go around changing it? Is it a subsidiary now? Kline • talk • contribs 15:59, 22 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Do you want to find out if Topps is a subsidiary or how to update the infobox? this suggests that Topps is a subsidiary. TSventon (talk) 18:41, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * @TSventon Update the infobox to a subsidiary, seems complicated for a first time affair so some guidance would be helpful. Kline • talk • contribs 00:42, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Kline, the infobox pages are usually helpful. I checked Template:Infobox company and found
 * "type
 * Type of ownership in the company (not their legal form of incorporation), wiki-linked where appropriate. To list percentages owned of a private company, use the ownership parameter. Available types:
 * Private
 * Public
 * Subsidiary
 * Division "
 * So Topps could be a division or a subsidiary.
 * If you want help finding information about the company you could try Reference desk/Humanities. TSventon (talk) 05:29, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Map alignment
At Timnath, I tried to add a couple of locator maps. Why don't they align right even when I use the parameter float=right ? Edit: and why one of the label has "class=notpageimage" written under it? trespassers william (talk) 21:04, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * They are both at the right margin for me. Where do you see them and what is your browser? "class=notpageimage" ended in the wrong place because there was a wrong  . I have removed it. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:36, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you.
 * I saw this on Chrome, both pc and mobile. On mobile I use the monobook style w/ the option "Enable responsive mode (Adapt layout to screen size on mobile) - on. Maybe it's turning it off that helped? When logged off, on mobile both maps are center-page. But I guess this is a default override behaviour?
 * trespassers william (talk) 11:36, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * It's apparently a feature of responsive mode. If the window is deemed too narrow to get a good layout by placing text to the left of an image then float right is ignored. It doesn't matter whether location map templates were used. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:02, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Blocked?!
I tried to add information about a company I co-founded and received a "Blocked notice" from Wikipedia. I have no idea why this is the case and would like the Block removed asap. I do not understand how to do this. Lmfertig (talk) 21:49, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * What was the article and what username were you using? DuncanHill (talk) 21:52, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * , editing with a conflict of interest is a serious problem, especially if undisclosed. Please comply with that behavioral guideline. Cullen328 (talk) 08:07, 23 May 2024 (UTC)