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I want to propose a mass renaming of ALL Chinese train stations - how do I do so?
Since the WP:COMMONNAME of Chinese train stations is now the pinyin of the cardinal direction rather than the cardinal direction (e.g. "Hangzhoudong Railway Station" instead of "Hangzhou East railway station", "Shanghainan Railway Station" instead of "Shanghai South railway station"), I would like to move all the articles of train stations across China as such. However, there must be thousands of articles that I would have to change. Where can I propose this change? Félix An (talk) 01:11, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
 * An RFC is probably your best bet. You might want to notify relevant Wikiprojects like WikiProject Trains or WikiProject China. Alternatively, if you're 100% sure that it's not controversial, you could use {{subst:requested move}}; the documentation has more information on how to do multiple pages. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:33, 24 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Félix An, maybe I was sleepy, but it took me some time to work out what you were saying. But I imagine that you mean this: "Since the English name used by China Railway for any Chinese train station consisting of a place name plus cardinal direction now doesn't use the place name in pinyin plus a cardinal direction in English (such as 'Hangzhou East railway station') but instead renders the cardinal direction too in pinyin (such as 'Hangzhoudong railway station'), ..." I suppose you'll either have to provide evidence that the latter really are the common names, or have to argue that one or more other factors should outweigh the criterion of commonness. -- Hoary (talk) 04:32, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
 * That's interesting, but likely controversial, especially when there are Chinese OTAs such as trip.com are using the English cardinal directions rather than pinyin. Do open a discussion first before doing or requesting for the mass move. Using the Chinese cardinal directions is definitely WP:OFFICIAL at the very least though, as reflected on the 12306 app. – robertsky (talk) 06:12, 24 May 2024 (UTC)


 * I see that Brussels-midi is a redirect to Brussels-South railway station, but Paris Gare du Nord is a redirect to Gare du Nord, so there's no consistent policy here. (There are direct trains to both from London. In my experience my fellow Brits refer to them by their French names.) Maproom (talk) 06:18, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't think this is going to go through, but generally you'd want to make a post on WP:NCZH, MOS:ZH, or both. Remsense  诉  06:22, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

how to create a wikipedia page
How do i create a wikipedia page for myself Tanaaz Bhatia (talk) 05:11, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Tanaaz Bhatia, you mean, a page about yourself? If this is what you mean, you do not create such a page. Please read Autobiography. (Attempts are not actually prohibited, but they usually fail, after wasting various people's time.) -- Hoary (talk) 05:31, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

If empty
Can someone please help me edit a template using. if parameter is empty, the word "article" need to pop up. example:  it previews like article note: the  parameter  is a link. MAL MALDIVE (talk) 15:26, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Perhaps this instead?
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 15:36, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you. MAL MALDIVE (talk) 06:12, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 15:36, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you. MAL MALDIVE (talk) 06:12, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

cant edit the page
cant edit the page Raangii (talk) 18:36, 24 May 2024 (UTC)


 * You haven't indiacted the name of the page you can't edit, so all we can do is guess, but as a brand-new account you are not autoconfirmed so the issue is probably page protection of some sort. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 18:40, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Primo Villanueva
Calexico High School Denecof (talk) 22:35, 24 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Attended Calexico High School not Central High School. Denecof (talk) 22:37, 24 May 2024 (UTC)


 * So you've already said at Talk:Primo Villanueva, Denecof. Good, that's where to say it. But you need to cite a reliable source for saying so. -- Hoary (talk) 23:46, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Source Reliability
Hi all, I'm working on a draft for a grade-II listed factory (here for anybody interested). I was wondering if someone could look at this pdf source and give their thoughts on its reliability. It covers events which are otherwise difficult to find elsewhere, but editorial oversight and the company's incentives to produce the report are questionable. Pahunkat (talk) 22:45, 24 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Biased sources can still be reliable for facts. Section 6, which lays out the consultancy's argumentation regarding development of the site, is probably too biased to cite, but the rest of the report doesn't seem problematic in my opinion. Folly Mox (talk) 23:16, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Alright, thanks Folly Mox. Pahunkat (talk) 10:16, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Tank Dumars
Video Game Charcter in NCAA 14 Dynasty mode 172.249.42.137 (talk) 23:42, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Do you have a question about editing Wikipedia? -- Hoary (talk) 23:47, 24 May 2024 (UTC)