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LaTex not rendering when using MS-Edge. Local or global?
I've noticed this happens in MSEdge on and off, and there does not appear to be a pattern or obvious (to me anyway) reason. For example, on the page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativistic_particle

equation (1) appears as

$ E^{2}=(p{\textrm {c}})^{2}+\left(m_{0}{\textrm {c}}^{2}\right)^{2}\, $

I tried different "tricks" in the editor, but nothing appears to work. Chrome and Firefox do not have this problem (this is probably also true for other html readers, but have not checked.

I would like to know if anyone else experiences this, or is it some problem I have locally? thanks Joe wiki eds (talk) 00:16, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * It renders without problems for me using legacy vector skin and Edge browser on Windows 10. RudolfRed (talk) 01:25, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * It works for me. Is SVG selected under "Math" at Special:Preferences? PrimeHunter (talk) 02:11, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks RudolfRed.
 * I had "LaTeX source (for text browsers)" selected under math instead of "SVG".
 * Cheers! Joe wiki eds (talk) 06:47, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

How can I get my accounts back
take back what is rightfully mine Retodo471 (talk) 03:33, 29 May 2024 (UTC)


 * @Retodo471 If your account has been compromised, instructions are at Compromised accounts. You are unlikely to regain access to your account. Toadspike   [Talk]  12:02, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

How can I stop my personal information from being sold on the dark web
leaked data Retodo471 (talk) 03:36, 29 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi Retodo471, this help desk is for questions about using or editing Wikipedia, and isn't a general Q&A board. Are you referring to a Wikipedia account? If so, could you provide the name of the account? If this is not about Wikipedia, you would likely be better helped by searching the internet or asking these questions on a website designed for Q&A. Tollens (talk) 03:40, 29 May 2024 (UTC)


 * , I read here that you are: [sic]  [sic] . With that level and variety of expertise, and those security clearances, I'm confident that you'll be able to retrieve your accounts yourself. -- Hoary (talk) 07:02, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Edit Dutch pages
Hi, I have an account on en.wiki.. and am trying to turn it into a global account so I can edit nl.wiki.. pages because I am a native Dutch speaker and writer. It does not seem to work.. what should I do in.order to be able to edit nl.wiki pages?

Thanks, Koen Kmlinders (talk) 09:47, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * According to a comment here, you may need to disable any browser option which says "Block third party cookies". Another suggestion I have seen is to explicitly log out (that is a link which, for me, appears at the top, right of any page). Then log in again. If that doesn't help and there is no better advice here, ask again at WP:VPT. Johnuniq (talk) 10:05, 29 May 2024 (UTC)


 * You could try going to nl-Wiki and logging in there. Mjroots (talk) 17:59, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Referring to a young person who's the subject of an article ...
I'm editing an article on the young soon-to-be-canonized saint Carlo Acutis. He was only a teenager when he died. Throughout the article, he is referred to as Acutis. Somehow it seems to me that because of his youth, it would be more natural to refer to him as Carlo instead and I'd like to make that change article-wide.

What guidance is there on this sort of thing in Wikipedia? Augnablik (talk) 10:59, 29 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Augnablik the manual of style guidance is at MOS:SURNAME. TSventon (talk) 11:17, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you, @TSventon, for such a quick resolution! Apparently even children are referred to by surname unless members of the same family are also involved in the same discussion. I wouldn't have expected that. Augnablik (talk) 11:26, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Augnablik if you are interested in the reasons for the current guidance you could search for "children" in the talk page archives. The issue was discussed here in 2017. TSventon (talk) 11:35, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks again @TSventon. I checked out the source you mentioned. It was helpful to find a discussion going into so many of the same issues I was interested in on this topic. Augnablik (talk) 04:46, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Put in more information in the "Paul Wesley" article under personal life
Hello,

I would like for your editors to put in this information in the personal life section with Paul Wesley:

"Wesley has been in a relationship with the Brazilian/German model Natalie Kuckenburg since 2023, February."

//Lazar B SaintHeihachi (talk) 11:02, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * @SaintHeihachi: Do you have a reliable source for that? That is also something you should be putting at Talk:Paul Wesley. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 12:26, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

have editor proofread and approve edits
Hello. I have been editing information for Gerard Karam. I have made edits, such as changed Arts to Science, in Education. Also added more details in bio. They revert back to original. Received email to ask editor to approve edits. When editing, don't see how to do that. PALEGALSECGMK (talk) 13:31, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The edits were reverted because the additions were not supported by inline sources. Even if what you have added is true, we can't include it on Wikipedia unless other people (readers and editors) can verify the information with published sources. Recon  rabbit  13:53, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The edits were reverted because the additions were not supported by inline sources. Even if what you have added is true, we can't include it on Wikipedia unless other people (readers and editors) can verify the information with published sources. Recon  rabbit  13:53, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Uploading new logo
Dear Wikipedia,

I am trying to upload another logo to the Armada Music Wikipedia page because it still has the old logo right now. They have changed their logo for a couple of years now, so I want to fix that. Now that I am trying to upload the logo Wikipedia says it's copyrighted. How am I able to upload the new logo to Wikipedia if I don't have the copyright, because now the information on the page is wrong? Madstew (talk) 13:49, 29 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Logos are one of the cases when non-free images are frequently used in articles. Please see WP:LOGO for how to do it.
 * Far more significant than the logo is the poor quality of the sourcing: I'm not sure that even one of the sources meets the triple requirement of being reliable, independent, and containing significant coverage of the subject. Without several such sources, the label will not meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability. ColinFine (talk) 14:53, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * @Madstew If a logo is simple enough, it could be below the threshold of originality, which means it is in the public domain and cannot be copyrighted. You would then need to choose the corresponding license option when uploading the image here or at Wikimedia Commons. Toadspike   [Talk]  12:10, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Noel Ashman bio removed
Hi - I am trying to get Noel Ashman's page "unsalted" - apparently it was removed/taken down, after some contributors had added false information to it. Would you please direct me to what I need to do to return his previous page that can be added back to wikipedia. Ashmanassistant (talk) 13:51, 29 May 2024 (UTC)


 * The biography wasn't deleted because of 'false information'. It has however been deleted, repeatedly, because evidence that Ashman meets our notability guideline has not been provided: see Articles for deletion/Noel Ashman, Articles for deletion/Noel Ashman (2nd nomination) and Articles_for_deletion/Noel_Ashman_(3rd_nomination). Unsalting will require evidence that the guideline can if fact be met, through significant in-depth coverage in published reliable sources. I suggest you start by finding them, and linking them here. And please note that if you are indeed Ashman's assistant, you will be required to conform to the Conflict of interest guidelines. AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:03, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Nakba
good afternoon.

With relation to the'Nakba' how can someone call it Ethnic Cleansing when the Arab league attacked Israel? This is misinformation and should be changed for legal reasons to prevent more racial hatred. We need to state facts correctly. 1 million jews ethnically cleansed from Morocco to Iran is a correct statement, The Christian population of Lebanon being massacred is ethnic cleansing, 1 million Greeks displaced from Turkey in 1923 is ethnic cleansing. Andy bandy24 (talk) 14:21, 29 May 2024 (UTC)


 * The Nakba article is about an attack on Palestinians (presumably Muslims), not an attack on Israel. Multiple reliable sources refer to the displacement of Palestinians as ethnic cleansing, and this is discussed in the article. If you want to discuss improvements to the the Nakba article, it's best to do it on the talk page Talk:Nakba. ~Anachronist (talk) 15:48, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Hello,
 * Yes, but this information is completely false. Where is the supporting evidence? and if it’s ethnic cleansing why did all the Jews get displaced from all the Arab states? It’s only a mater of time before someone spreading this misinformation will be held accountable. 2A00:23C6:8092:BA01:E460:7754:40AA:DBF8 (talk) 17:07, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Supporting evidences are cited on the article's reference section. If you wish to argue otherwise, please provide reliable sources on the topic to support your claim. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 19:17, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Users have to be extended-confirmed to discuss this topic on any page per the current contentious topics procedures. @Andy bandy24 and the IP editor here do not meet this criteria. Recon  rabbit  17:08, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Accidentally removed a talk page
In trying to request a move for The Mall Luton I ended up accidentally remove the whole talk page's history *facepalm*. If someone could help by restoring it. Editing anything other than page text is a bit out of my comfort zone so apologies Bobster1001 (talk) 14:54, 29 May 2024 (UTC)


 * I see you made multiple edits. Which one should I undo? Sage or something (talk) 15:03, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The only net change to Talk:The Mall Luton is the addition of a RM section. You did no damage. And I left a comment there. ~Anachronist (talk) 15:41, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Colonel Boglin
My father Colonel William N Boglin was one of a few Africa American Colonels of his time, he was the hospital administrator and director of medical education at Wilford Hall along with General Chong, he was also under the same Generals command at Malcom Grow. Which my father servers as hospital administrator. Why is there information on General Chong but nothing on my father who paved the way for many officers in the Air Force! 2603:8081:6107:5D84:A9B5:679B:B7B:3F81 (talk) 20:48, 29 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Hello. The answer to the question "Why isn't there a Wikipedia article on X?" is generally one or both of "Because nobody has written it yet" and "Because X does not currently meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability".
 * "Notable" in Wikipedia's sense, does not mean important, or famous, or popular, or innovatory, or influential, or anything like that, though it sometimes goes with these: it means, roughly, "there is enough information about the X published in reliable, independent sources, to base an article on".
 * So the question comes down to, did your father get written about (and not just rountine mentions about his career and appointments) in books, newspapers, magazines, unconnected with him and his associates? If the answer is yes, then it is possible there could be an article about him; otherwise, there cannot be an article, no matter how ground-breaking he was.
 * Getting an article written on a particular subject can be a challenge, unless you manage to inspire somebody to create it. You can requst an article at Requested articles, but in all honesty, few requests there actually get taken up. You might find somebody interested if you post at WT:WikiProject Military history, but there are no guarantees. (If you do some research yourself, and find some of the sources of the kind I mentioned above, that may make the project more attractive to somebody.)
 * Finally, you are allowed to try and create an article yourself. This is not recommended because of your conflict of interest, and it may make a challenging task even harder. I always advise new editors not to even try creating an article until they have several hundred edits and several weeks of editing under their belt, and have learnt about key policies such as verifiability, reliable sources, neutral point of view, and notability. Then they can read your first article, and give it a go. ColinFine (talk) 21:09, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm getting no significant hits for Colonel William Boglin, and the only William Boglin I'm seeing is an arsonist, so the notability just isn't there. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:58, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

please remind me how to remove a redirect
I believe I have done this before but am blanking on the procedure. Do I just blank the page or do I need to add a template, or?

Specifically, I added an interlanguage link from Michael Servetus to fr:Guillaume de Trie, who denounced him to the Inquisition as a heretic. The redirect of Guillaume de Trie to Roman Catholic Diocese of Bayeux and Lisieux is counterproductive and impairs readability. Also, while he was in fact Bishop of Bayeux at one point, this is not the most notable thing about him. He was subsequently Archbishop of Reims and tutor to Philippe VI of France, the first Valois. That is why I would change this.

Could someone please advise when they have a minute? I could of course hard code the link with the colon syntax, but this doesn't flag the term as a needed article and is not the preferred solution here. Thanks. Elinruby (talk) 23:40, 29 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Elinruby, you can use the Redirects for discussion process. TSventon (talk) 23:49, 29 May 2024 (UTC)