Wikipedia:Lectures/Lecture3-Log cleaned up

xavexgoem says: Synergetic: try turning off whatever music you have on

synergeticmaggot says: its off

synergeticmaggot says: Fur Elise is a short song :D

synergeticmaggot says: i hit the answer but nothing happened


 * Seddon69 added sniperz11 to this chat


 * sniperz11 can't be added to this chat due to his/her privacy settings

Steve Crossin says: heh

Filll says: this is where the lectures will be?

Steve Crossin says: im doing some project work

Steve Crossin says: so im not sure how active i can be

synergeticmaggot says: Filll: here and there, this is for hearing the discussion i believe


 * Kim Bruning added Adrian to this chat

Filll says: oh ok

Steve Crossin says: ;(

xavexgoem says: Seddon is trying to record atm

Filll says: ok

Steve Crossin says: hehe

Steve Crossin says: O_O

Kim Bruning says: sniperz needs addind!

Steve Crossin says: lol

Steve Crossin says: YES

Kim Bruning says: and steve

Steve Crossin says: "Annes TMC Gravy"

Steve Crossin says: darn it

Adrian says: voice?

Kim Bruning says: gonna setup soon...

Adrian says: k

Filll says: sniper can you listen?

Kim Bruning says: sniperz: are you ok?

Kim Bruning says: sniper.... can you listen?

xavexgoem says: I'm connecting with sniper fine

Steve Crossin says: what!!

Steve Crossin says: it will likebe AM

Steve Crossin says: yea

xavexgoem says: Could it be your end, SEddon?

Steve Crossin says: *2am

Seddon69 says: it might

xavexgoem says: Kim, you want sniper here?

xavexgoem says: in VC?

Steve Crossin says: yea stop being ao UK friendly

Steve Crossin says: :P

Kim Bruning says: xavex: I hope!

xavexgoem says: Hmm...

Filll says: sniper can you type?

xavexgoem says: He's still connected to me

Steve Crossin says: call is slowing me down too much

Filll says: oh oh

Filll says: what happened seddon?

Seddon69 says: xav is gonna try and host

Seddon69 says: so i ended the call :P

Filll says: ok

Filll says: use options at top

xavexgoem says: alright

xavexgoem says: lemme try again

Filll says: and do conference call

Filll says: from options at top of screen

Adrian says: muted but can hear you all very good

Filll says: i am muted too

Steve Crossin says: im not in the call

xavexgoem says: SynergeticMag, do you have any applications that are using sound other than Skype?

synergeticmaggot says: nope

xavexgoem says: Hmm..

Steve Crossin says: i dont wanna be, slows me down

Filll says: killingthe process known as SkypePM in windows cna be good

Adrian says: synergic called?

xavexgoem says: he did

Steve Crossin says: the call slows my internet down to a slug

xavexgoem says: but I think it's a driver issue

Filll says: synergetic?

Filll says: you are not in?

synergeticmaggot says: i dont know, i was trying other options

Steve Crossin says: our net is dialup speed now

synergeticmaggot says: neve used skype before

Filll says: well did you answer when the call came in?

Kim Bruning says: synergistic might need to kill skype and restart or so

Filll says: want me to call you?

xavexgoem says: synergetic, could you maybe restart? :S can't think of anything else

Kim Bruning says: and kill any other sound programs

Kim Bruning says: depending what os/system


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Filll says: ok he might have to restart

Adrian says: the whose what?

Filll says: or to change his sound options...the headset figure lower right hand button of skype window

Filll says: whose?

Adrian says: I'm in a VC hosted by xavex right now. why is synergic calling?

Filll says: he is confused

Adrian says: oh

Filll says: he is hitting redial from his history

Filll says: haha

Filll says: so it calls everyone

Filll says: it is a mistake

Filll says: do not answer it


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Filll says: i will try to call him one on one again

xavexgoem says: I think SynergeticMag needs a restart

Filll says: hmmm

Filll says: seems to have sound card trouble

xavexgoem says: He's not even in the chat...?

Filll says: why is he not in this chat


 * Filll added synergeticmaggot to this chat

Filll says: syn are you there?

Filll says: can yo type?

Kim Bruning says: syn helo!

Satyam Nayak says: syn!!

xavexgoem says: me, sorry

xavexgoem says: I think

Kim Bruning says: xavex: tis fine!

xavexgoem says: lemme try again...

Filll says: syn???

Satyam Nayak says: hes typing

synergeticmaggot says: yeah i tried leaving then i couldnt figure out how to rejoin

Filll says: where is syn

synergeticmaggot says: i'm checking on an error message

Kim Bruning says: syn is here

Filll says: well lets see

Filll says: you have a sound card error message

Filll says: i tried to call syn direct and it failed

xavexgoem says: restart, methinks

synergeticmaggot says: i use mozilla firefox as a browser

Kim Bruning says: it happened to me occaisionally too

Filll says: hmm

Filll says: yes it happens

Kim Bruning says: syn: kill firefox and try skyping without?

Filll says: go to the skype main page

synergeticmaggot says: What is Error #6102 or "Problem with recording device", and how do I solve it?

synergeticmaggot says: is where i am at this point

Filll says: and try clicking on bottom that looks like headset

Kim Bruning says: filll: how long will this take? :)

Filll says: not sure


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Filll says: click on button that looks like headset

Kim Bruning says: steve is out again?

Satyam Nayak says: syn: bad mic.

synergeticmaggot says: rather, no mic :)

Filll says: syn are you there?

synergeticmaggot says: yes i'm here@

Filll says: syn you have no mike?

synergeticmaggot says: nope

Filll says: ok click on button that looks like a headset

Filll says: lower right hand corner

synergeticmaggot says: i see no button

Seddon69 says: brb

Kim Bruning says: which skype version? :)

Filll says: ok see what version of sksype you are using

synergeticmaggot says: the one from WP:lectures talk page

Filll says: haha

xavexgoem says: Syn: Reboot. If that doesn't work, I don't know what will...? (my solution to everything)

Filll says: see help at the top?

Filll says: click on help and go to about

Kim Bruning says: http://bruning.xs4all.nl/~kim/photo/dispute_resolution/1280x1024/pict8121.jpg

Filll says: and see what version

Satyam Nayak says: lol

Filll says: i talk about the main skype window of course

synergeticmaggot says: ok i'm rebooting


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Kim Bruning says: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:DR

xavexgoem says: (is this being recorded?)

xavexgoem says: just checking

Kim Bruning says: original as designed

Kim Bruning says: new dr methods (added later)

Kim Bruning says: RFC

Kim Bruning says: Mediation committee

Kim Bruning says: Arbitration Committee

Kim Bruning says: Request For Comments

Seddon69 says: come to an end of a sentence in a second please so i can start another recording

Seddon69 says: got a 15 min time limit per recording

xavexgoem says: (Sniper can't see this chat window)

Seddon69 says: one min

Seddon69 says: ill start a new one now

Seddon69 says: ok :P

Seddon69 says: go

Filll says: hmmm

Filll says: sniper cant see this

Filll says: let mee see

xavexgoem says: (this would be better if not for the constant "wheeip" sound whenever someone makes a comment like this)

Filll says: ah

Filll says: yes sniper's text is not going through

Filll says: I am not sure why

Filll says: this happens sometimes

xavexgoem says: I can relay everything to him

Filll says: what i do is prod the system with a direct dial

Filll says: and it clears the buffer

Filll says: but I dont know how to do that with a multiuser chat window

Seddon69 says: brb, dont worry recording is ongoing :)

Filll says: i have to write a cheat sheet for skype i guess

Kim Bruning says: Request for comment

Kim Bruning says: Mediation Committee

Kim Bruning says: Request for Arbitration


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Kim Bruning says: Association of Members Advocates (AMA)

synergeticmaggot says: what about AMA?

Filll says: i cant seem to get his audio working yet

synergeticmaggot says: you know, i think i figured out the problem. i use a cell phone as my modem

Filll says: oh that might be it

Adrian says: AMA was dissolved http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AMA

Kim Bruning says: AMA replaced by Editor Assitence WP:EA

Kim Bruning says: 3rd opinonon WP:3O

xavexgoem says: yup

synergeticmaggot says: yeah i was just trying to figure out what i missed upon reboot + coffee refill

Seddon69 says: wooooooo

synergeticmaggot says: crap, whats the irc command to kill my nick

Filll says: sniper can you see this?

synergeticmaggot says: ghost...?

Kim Bruning says: AMA -> EA

Kim Bruning says: Association of Members Advocates -> Editor assistence

Satyam Nayak says: syn: /ghost 

synergeticmaggot says: danke

Kim Bruning says: Mediation Committee -> mediation cabal

Kim Bruning says: arbitration committee -> ?

xavexgoem says: ?

xavexgoem says: say what?

synergeticmaggot says: arbitrary resolutions?

xavexgoem says: sniper, do you see thsi

xavexgoem says: ?

Kim Bruning says: Editor Assistence

Kim Bruning says: Mediation Cabal

Kim Bruning says: 3 opinion

Kim Bruning says: * RFC

Kim Bruning says: * MEDCOM

Kim Bruning says: * ARBCOM

xavexgoem says: :D

Kim Bruning says: Guerilla Mediation

xavexgoem says: yes

Seddon69 says: 10 min

xavexgoem says: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GUERRILLA

xavexgoem says: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Guerrilla_Mediation_Network#Possible_resurrection.3F

Filll says: readd me

Filll says: if you can

xavexgoem says: Vassyana suggests starting out at GAN, actually

xavexgoem says: who needs re-add?

xavexgoem says: saying you're not online

Filll says: filll

synergeticmaggot says: i'm gonna sit this one out, i have a few things to do before work, bye all :)


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Filll says: oh oh

Filll says: i am losing it

Filll says: lost it

Filll says: dropped

xavexgoem says: trying to readd

xavexgoem says: :)

Adrian says: shoot Filll dropped again

Filll says: haha

Filll says: sorry about that

Filll says: i also went to get a sandwich

Filll says: add me

Filll says: if you can

Kim Bruning says: yell if you want reinvite :)

Filll says: my connection has gone flaky

Kim Bruning says: I guess call xavexgoem

Filll says: oops

Filll says: i should be back

Filll says: i think

Kim Bruning says: Wikipedia:Consensus

Kim Bruning says: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Consensus_new_and_old.svg

Kim Bruning says: :)

Kim Bruning says: Don't be a dick

Kim Bruning says: Civility

xavexgoem thinks policy is a massive beaning

xavexgoem says: (which seques into consensus, too :) )

Seddon69 says: 2 min 30

Kim Bruning says: WP:SILENCE

Filll says: yes my connection is bad

Seddon69 says: 1 min 30

Filll says: haha

Filll says: add me back

Seddon69 says: go :)

Filll says: sorry

Filll says: i was very stable yesterday

xavexgoem says: I'll re-add as they drop, don't worry

Kim Bruning says: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?DocumentMode

xavexgoem says: Freddie Mercury :P

Kim Bruning says: WP:BRD

Kim Bruning says: OODA Loop

Kim Bruning says: http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?ThreadMode

Kim Bruning says: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ThreadMode

Kim Bruning says: I say this

Kim Bruning says:     You say that

Kim Bruning says:         I say some more

Kim Bruning says:    someone else speaks too

Kim Bruning says:             I reply to them too

Kim Bruning says: Refactor threadmode -> Documentmode

xavexgoem says: it should happen more often...

Kim Bruning says: talk page -> talk page results -> mainspace page

Kim Bruning says: talk page == thread mode --> mainspace page == document mode

Seddon69 says: 3 min 30

xavexgoem says: the what?

Kim Bruning says: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Consensus_new_and_old.svg

xavexgoem says: ah

xavexgoem says: yes

xavexgoem says: I think they will :)

xavexgoem says: scratch that question; I think I have a solution

xavexgoem says: Things tend to come to medcab after consensus takes forever, from what I see

Kim Bruning says: seddon: still watching time?

Seddon69 says: yep 4 mins

xavexgoem shrinks

xavexgoem says: ;)

xavexgoem says: ooooh!

xavexgoem loves the gossip!

Filll says: seth finkelstein

Filll says: was great ranting

Seddon69 says: 5min

xavexgoem says: seddon: mute your mic :P

Seddon69 says: should prob cut it after this and round things up

Filll says: not me

Filll says: I am good

Seddon69 says: 1 min 20

xavexgoem says: done with the question, heh :)

xavexgoem says: *s * 20

Seddon69 says: 1 min

Seddon69 says: 50 secs

Seddon69 says: 40 secs

Seddon69 says: 30 secs

Seddon69 says: 200

Seddon69 says: 20*

Seddon69 says: 15

xavexgoem says: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Remote_viewing#Purported_again - Kill them w/ kindness

xavexgoem says: you can cut 1/2 my questions :P

xavexgoem says: (srsly)

xavexgoem says: (particularly when I'm bubbling)

xavexgoem says: (bumbling)* like now

xavexgoem says: awesome

Kim Bruning says: Filll

Kim Bruning says: WP:SR

Kim Bruning says: WP:5P

Kim Bruning says: WP:TRI

Kim Bruning says: Any of these useful?

Kim Bruning says: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Simplified_ruleset#This_is_working.21

Kim Bruning says: IAR, BOLD, etc :P

Kim Bruning says: (CCC)

xavexgoem says: Filll: User:Vassyana/insanity <-- very fun, and related

Filll says: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Evolution/FAQ

Filll says: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Evolution/FAQ&oldid=107979182

xavexgoem says: I _really_ liked the AGF challenge; maybe'd be good on Skype 2c

Kim Bruning says: hehehehe

Kim Bruning says: :)

xavexgoem says: woah, thought of a template and a cat

xavexgoem says: it'd be awesome

xavexgoem says:

Filll says: https://skypecasts.skype.com/skypecasts/skypecast/detailed.html?id_talk=4241481&message=new_talk_created

xavexgoem says: egads

xavexgoem says: what happened?

Filll says: hiccup

Filll says: rejoin

Filll says: from your history

Filll says: go to your history

Filll says: and click the skpyecast

Filll says: see your history xav?

xavexgoem says: Oh, to have a name starting with X :P

Filll says: interesting xav?

Filll says: haha

Filll says: what do you think of these guys

xavexgoem says: interesting...

xavexgoem says: I liked the first three

xavexgoem says: :P

Filll says: nice ladies

Filll says: haha

Filll says: we havent had any lunatics yet

Filll says: but oh well

xavexgoem says: no

xavexgoem says: woah

xavexgoem says: it's easy

xavexgoem says: don't tell him it's hard :P

xavexgoem says: nvm, heh

xavexgoem says: You sound just like Al Franken. It's weird.

Seddon69 says: lol

xavexgoem says: ugh... gotta go

Seddon69 says: kk xav take care mate

Filll says: see ya

Kim Bruning says: Oh woot

Kim Bruning says: a proper lectures channel

Kim Bruning says: skypecast even

Kim Bruning says: this is getting interesting

xavexgoem says: hello

Adrian says: hi

Adrian says: why on lectures?

xavexgoem says: Skype just randomly said someone was speaking here

xavexgoem says: No clue why.

Adrian says: ok...

Adrian says: me neither

Adrian says: I suggested to Kim Bruning to establish a public chat for Lectures

Adrian says: he replied that it "sounds like some Skype 3 feature" ...

Adrian says: I'm reluctatant to do it myself, because the "Creator" is the one in charge (i.e. making others "hosts"=admins etc)

xavexgoem says: isn't this a public chat?

Adrian says: no, look in the NTWW public chat. it says public chat at the top

xavexgoem says: ooh

Adrian says: public chats are also permanent and can be controlled

Adrian says: (i.e. blocking people, or deciding whom to let in)

Adrian says: the advantage is, Skype hosts a link to the public chat

Adrian says: which can be put on WP

xavexgoem says: Oooh

Adrian says: yeah

Adrian says: maybe I'll just go ahead an do it anyway

Adrian says: or, wait. no

Adrian says: I won't do it, because the Skype link reveals your Skype account name--which isn't in itself a problem for me, but my account name contains my real given name

Adrian says: would you care to give it a try?

xavexgoem says: sure; what do I do?

Adrian says: main window > Cahts > Start public chat

Adrian says: really easy

xavexgoem says: Topic? Wikipedia lectures?

Adrian says: don't worry about the topic, it can be changed at any later time. maybe something short, like simply WP:Lectures?

xavexgoem says: Host controls?

Adrian says: Participants need permission to start reading and posting

Adrian says: (can be changed later by creator)

xavexgoem says: Guidelines: "Don't be a dick" ? :P

Adrian says: :D

xavexgoem says: http://www.skype.com/go/joinpublicchat?skypename=xavexgoem&topic=WP%3ALectures&blob=cG2lhdxLTuoqMCXnJ_FMuoxadXDnNOgB1ymXM-iUQOcEmTHK7Whn67Jodj58eSLG6g

Adrian says: JOIN THE ALL NEW PUBLIC CHAT VIA ABOVE LINK