Wikipedia:Media copyright questions/Archive/2015/September

reply to media editor's question about a license tag
Thank you for writing to me, as follows:

"Thanks for uploading File:Great-zim-aerial-looking-SE.JPG. You don't seem to have indicated the license status of the image. Wikipedia uses a set of image copyright tags to indicate this information. To add a tag to the image, select the appropriate tag from this list, click on this link, then click "Edit this page" and add the tag to the image's description. If there doesn't seem to be a suitable tag, the image is probably not appropriate for use on Wikipedia. For help in choosing the correct tag, or for any other questions, leave a message on Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. Thank you for your cooperation. --ImageTaggingBot (talk) 23:05, 1 September 2015 (UTC) "

I uploaded 2 images, File:Great-zim-aerial-looking-SE.JPG and File:Great-zim-aerial-looking-W.JPG

I thought I supplied the needed information and the images were assigned to a tag like ..."Attribution ShareAlike" I wouldn't know what agreement number.

The fact is that I am the photographer, I took the shots from a small plane piloted by my husband last month, and I want to share them for any use at all provided they're accompanied by the photo credit.

Please make any necessary correction to the tags, or tell me which one to mark if you can't do it for me. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jncbll (talk • contribs) 22:19, 2 September 2015 (UTC)


 * It was not us but the User:ImageTaggingBot who noticed that one of your images was missing essential details. It appear you also uploaded the same two images to the commons and they have the proper information template as well as a good licence tag. For that reason I have tagged the local images for deletion. There is nothing else for you to do. We hope you can share some more aerial images in the future. ww2censor (talk) 23:06, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Jncbll, I've deleted both images: not because there's something wrong with them, but because (as Ww2censor noted) you've also uploaded them at Commons. Images at Commons can also be used here (that's the whole point of having Commons), so there's no need to keep both copies around when they're identical.  Your images are still in use, so thanks for helping us with them!  Nyttend (talk) 03:54, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Film poster from 1925
I would like to use the following poster to illustrate this article:

http://www.movpins.com/big/MV5BMTQ2NjgxODE2MF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwNDA5MDgwMjE@._V1/little-annie-rooney-(1925)-large-picture.jpg

It would seem to fall under the same pre-1978 copyright rules as and ] but this is my first time uploading an image to Wikipedia and I want to be sure. I suppose even if it is currently copyrighted, being the official release poster for the film, it could also fall under fair-use. Please let me know what you think. MargotThe (talk) 04:14, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 * MargotThe, I think film posters indeed are good examples of fair use, but in this case, it's a clear case of PD-US-no notice. Please just upload it to Commons so that it can be used by other Wikipedias and other related wiki websites; if you upload it here at the English Wikipedia, it won't be usable except here.  Nyttend (talk) 03:57, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Durham Speed Skating Club (DSSC) logo
If I were to use the logo at the top of this page on Wikipedia, how would I license it? Are there any exceptions that qualify it to be in CC0? &mdash;Skyllfully (talk &#124; contribs) 14:06, 1 September 2015 (UTC) Please ping me in your response. &mdash;Skyllfully (talk &#124; contribs) 14:06, 1 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Normally non-free logos can only be uploaded for use in the infobox of an article when that article exists and not before. Such a non-free image must comply with all 10 non-free content policy guideline. CC0 cannot apply. You would need to add both these templates to the image file page Non-free use rationale logo and Non-free logo when the article is in mainspace. Click on these template links so see how to use them. ww2censor (talk) 10:09, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Remove this Tag?
"Remove this tag when you provide the information"

What does this mean? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Larryesbee (talk • contribs) 14:12, 6 September 2015 (UTC)


 * I assume you are referring to File:BackAnd logo 0824.tiff. Well you are required to provide the source and author information by adding a fully completed information template. as well as a copyright tag. Being a simple text logo for a US company you can add the tag PD-textlogo. Click on the template links to get information on how to fill them out. If you do that you can remove all the other prose and warnings but please make sure to provide ALL the fields for the template. Also please sign your posts by adding four tildes ~ like this to your talk page and user talk page posts. ww2censor (talk) 14:46, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

Photo of Sylvia Sayer
Sylvia Sayer died in 2000. A photo in her biography article would be useful, but I can't find a free one. User:RoadRunnerCwll has sourced a photo that may be eligible, but in the discussion on his talk page we can't decide whether it would be usable or not (and if so under what licence). Could an expert please have a look at the discussion and provide some wise advice? (The "DPA" that we refer to is the Dartmoor Preservation Association of which Sayer was chairman/patron until her death, and RoadRunnerCwll has admitted his connection, here.) Thanks, —S MALL  JIM   21:14, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I recommend that you upload a low resolution version of the photo here on Wikipedia under the terms of WP:NFCI #10. Provide as much information as you can about the origins of the photo. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  21:30, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I've commented on the talk page linked above as well.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 21:34, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks to both of you for those quick (and consistent) opinions! I did search the web for any other freely available photos, and looked in a few books and DPA publications too, to no avail. I'll upload a low-res copy here soon. —S MALL  JIM   21:58, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Ageing Potion Picture
Is the picture of the ageing potion posted by hunnie bunn copyrighted? I would like to use this image. -swelsh10 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.91.5.53 (talk) 21:05, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Please provide a link to the image in question otherwise we can't help you. ww2censor (talk) 10:30, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Chesham Town Crest
Hi, I took this photograph File:Chesham Town Crest 01.jpg five years ago which appears on public display on the wall of the Town Hall building. It has just been tagged for copyrigyht infringement. Whilst if I had redrawn this crest from scratch I cold understand the potential for infringing copyright but in the United Kingdom it is permitted to take photographs of the outside of public (and private) buildings. Please couls someone explain the copyright infringement in this situation, and how I can address it. Many thanks. Tmol42 (talk) 23:07, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
 * While your photo is freely licenced, it is a photo of a copyrighted artwork and therefore is a derivative work which needs the permission of the copyright holder of that work who, in this case, is likely the town of Chesham. Unless you can prove the crest itself is in the public domain due to age, which in the Uk would be 70+ years pma. Do you know long has the town been using this crest? Hope that help you understand why you photo has been tagged. The freedom of panorama in the UK allows photos of buildings, sculptures, monuments and other similar such 3D items but not graphic works, such as this crest. ww2censor (talk) 23:39, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks Ww2censor for the clarification. The crest was established in 1961 as a revision to a long standing earlier crest so not long enough. May I trouble you further just to test something out with you? This crest is on the front wall of a largish building. Presumably an image of the whole building showing the crest as a small feature is OK. If one gradually focusses in at some point the crest becomes the main feature of the image which I guess is where the problem of copyright kicks in. So would it be OK to have an image where the crest forms only a subsiduary part of the image which displays the major part of the building? Tmol42 (talk) 01:25, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, 1961 is too short. You are referring to the de minimis use which is rather subjective but a ballpark figure in my thinking would be less then about 20% of the entire image. Others might consider this too much. Obviously an image showing the building or a substantial part of it and not just a wall with the crest as a small proportion. ww2censor (talk) 10:28, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * It is also a function of how prominent the copyrighted part is in the image. A photo of a road with a copyrighted street sign at the edge of the photo may be de minimis while one with the sign in the centre of the image may not be. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 10:43, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Public domain? Fair use? Or forget it?
I'm writing an article about a newspaper that was published in the 1940s. It was originally a POW paper, published under the direction and control of the US military and distributed to German prisoners in POW camps in the U.S. It was a propaganda tool to re-educate the prisoners and encourage them to adopt democratic ideals. After the war it continued to be published in Germany for a brief time.

I would expect that the issues published in the U.S. during the war would be in the public domain as works of the U.S. Government. Archives of them are apparently held in the National Archives. this website has uploaded a scan of one issue. My inclination is that I should be ok uploading that to Commons as pd-us and using it in the article.

The German Wikipedia article on the same newspaper has of the masthead of the post-war version of the paper. It is tagged there as being public domain because of not being creative enough to be copyrighted. However, there's a big scary box saying not to upload it to Commons. They seem to have nabbed the image from this website. My inclination here is agree with them and transfer it to Commons and use it in the article as well.

Another thing about the post-war one; I believe (but my sources aren't entierly clear) that the US military continued to exercise some control over even the post-war version of the paper. They seem to have fired Andersch. So perhaps even the post war version would be PD-US? I'm not sure.

That said, I'd be far more comfortable if they were older and I could use a pd-old reasoning. I'd like to get a second opinion. Am I ok using these two images as public domain images in that article? If not, I'm pretty sure I can craft a fair use argument for one, but it probably wouldn't fly to use both. What do other people who are more well-versed in copyright think? ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 17:49, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Anyone? ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 16:40, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I'll check this one shortly. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 17:06, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * OK. PD-US on Commons does not apply; these images and works are too recent. PD-USGov would presumably apply if Andersch was a government employee and not a contractor. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 18:41, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Ooops, I meant PD-USGov. Prisoners were paid for their work in POW camps, including on the paper, but I'm not sure one would consider them either an employee or a contractor. Like I said, the post-war situation is a little more murky. At any rate, thank you for the feedback, I'll go ahead and upload them as PD-USGov. ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 19:26, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * 1. About the scan of the page at smallstatebighistory, the catalog entry of the National Archives for this publication does not help, as it merely has what looks like a boilerplate warning that researchers should evaluate the copyright situation themselves. The paper says that it is edited and prepared by German prisoners of war. It would seem difficult to say that Germans soldiers during World War II were regular employees of the government of the United States. Or that their presence in the prisoners camps was the result of a freely consented contractual arrangement. There might be the possibility of C:Template:PD-US-no notice, if you have a way of checking the whole issue and looking if it had a copyright notice.
 * 2. The warning box with de:Datei:DerRuf Titelkopf.JPG does not forbid upload to commons. It is a reminder to review the file individually to determine if it can be uploaded to Commons. That file is the sort of image that would normally be accepted on Commons with the tag C:Template:PD-text or the tag C:Template:PD-ineligible. You can compare with some images in the C:Category:Newspaper logos. For more details, you can see also C:Commons:Threshold of originality.
 * For more opinions, you can also ask at C:Commons:Village pump/Copyright‎. -- Asclepias (talk) 20:35, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I should probably add a caveat that I was operating under the assumption that Andersch would be the copyright holder. If the prisoners would hold it, my previous analysis is only half true.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 21:42, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Moving pictures to Commons
How can I get the following pictures, that have been tagged for such, moved to Commons ( Category:Shelby Gem Factory ). Thanks. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:31, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
 * File:ICTBuilding.jpg
 * File:Skull Crucible.JPG
 * File:Cubic Zirconia Run Opening.jpg

Just follow the links as displayed in the commons move notice for instructions. The most useful way being to use the Commons helper tool but before you do that those images require a fully completed information template (click on the link to see how t use it) listing all the details otherwise they may be deleted over there for lack of detail. ww2censor (talk) 10:54, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

File:Godhra Train Burning Image.jpg
The image is taken from a committee report placed before a state legislature which would typically make it PD. However, the report itself sources the image to a person -- Minaxi Devi and in addition, the report uses images and clippings from newspapers too. Given the circumstances, would this image be considered PD as the tag suggests? &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  08:50, 31 August 2015 (UTC)


 * I think you will find that the images used in the report are used under the fair-use principle. We have a non-free policy which is much stricter than the legal understanding of fair-use. You cannot assume that just because an image was used in a regional government report that is is in the public domain nor can you asume that the Indian government copyright act you quote from applies in this case because I doubt this regional report was laid in from of the Indian Parliament as quoted. Do you have some verification of that? However more importantly, as you even state, on page 135 of the report they attribute the photographs to Witness Minaxidevi (W-1008), so she owns the copyright and we need her permission to use them; the local government does not own the copyright and is not the author of the image. It might be possible to use it as a non-free image if no other image is available and if it is invaluable to the reader's understand of the article, but it must then comply with all 10 non-free media policy guidelines. For each such use it must have a fully completed fair-use rationale. The image File:Inside view of S-6 coach of Sabarmati Express which was burnt at Godhra on 27 February 2002.jpg may have the same problem but we don't even know who took those photos. ww2censor (talk) 22:41, 7 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Well, I took the current tag at face value reg the report being in PD as I was more focused on the image itself as it's unlikely that the copyright of the various images used transferred to the creators of the report. I'll alert someone from that image use area to this discussion to see if they want to add a FUR. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  13:03, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * To prevent archiving for a few more days to give a chance for the uploader to provide more info and/or change to FU. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  04:24, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Will this image be deleted?
Will this image of Nic Naitanui found at http://www.westcoasteagles.com.au/player-profile/nic-naitanui be deleted? Catmando999  Check out his talk page!  10:26, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Is it copyrighted? Yes. It is under a free license? No, the site's terms of use forbid redistribution. Could it be fair use? No, he's alive so a free photo of him could be made. Is it therefore allowed on Wikipedia? No. Will it therefore be deleted? Yes. BethNaught (talk) 10:34, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thankyou Catmando999   Check out his talk page!  00:17, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

School logo
I want to upload a school logo. The last time I tried, it was deleted by another user. The school has asked me to do this, so I have permission. How do I upload this image so that it won't be deleted again?Merjar (talk) 21:58, 12 September 2015 (UTC)


 * @Merjar: I don't see where you've uploaded it on Wikipedia, so I can't say. However, the school logo will be non-free, so you'll need to upload it to Wikipedia (not Wikimedia Commons), correctly state that the image belongs to the school, and otherwise comply with the non-free content criteria. —C.Fred (talk) 22:02, 12 September 2015 (UTC)


 * @C.Fred Thank you for the guidance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Merjar (talk • contribs) 02:06, 13 September 2015 (UTC)


 * You are probably referring to your upload on the commons c:File:Acs logo.png that has already been deleted as a copyright violation. ww2censor (talk) 23:00, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Deletion request
Hello! I need to delete my files uploaded. What can I do?w — Preceding unsigned comment added by Manutico (talk • contribs) 05:29, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
 * You need to put Db-g7 on their file pages. Why do you want to delete them, out of curiosity? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 06:39, 14 September 2015 (UTC)


 * I can't see that you have uploaded any images under this user name either here or on the commons, so exactly which images are you talking about. ww2censor (talk) 12:32, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Copyright permission
To whom it may concern,

I am in the process of creating a Wikipedia article and I would like to attach a headshot photograph of the person featured within the article.

The image I would like to use for the Wikipedia page is an image from photographer Ben Harries. I have been in contact with Ben Harries and he has agreed and confirmed for me to use his photograph within the Wikipedia article.

He has stated he is more than happy to write a confirmation email to Wikipedia stating his permission of using his image. Would this procedure, of sending a confirmation email, work for my circumstance?

If this is not viable would you be able to offer some advice? I have read the information that Wikipedia offers on the terms of copyright, free work and fair use, but I am still unclear on where my situation falls, as I am not the copyright owner of the image, however I have direct confirmation from the copyright owner.

After looking at various other Wikipedia pages written about individuals, most feature a headshot image, similar to the style I am looking to incorporate. I am therefore intrigued in how they have successfully uploaded their image, so I can similarly do the same.

If you were able to offer any advice or help that would be greatly appreciated!

Kind regards

fjralph Fjralph (talk) 11:05, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
 * A permission email to OTRS might take a while to process but it can work. Do note though that we don't allow fair use images for living people as they are replaceable - the image must be freely licensed.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 12:12, 14 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Here is a possibility for you to consider because OTRS is currently taking quite a long time due to a backlog. The copyright holder could upload the image to their own website with a copyright licence that we accept. This could be done, if Ben prefers, on a unique webpage unlinked to the rest of his site but that url could be the source for the verification of the uploaded image here. An alternative would be to upload it to the photographer's Flickr account if he has one again with a suitable free licence. ww2censor (talk) 12:44, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Please do not ask the photographer to go through the trouble of sending a confirmation e-mail for a permission "for me to use his photograph within the Wikipedia article". It would not be accepted and that bad experience could reduce his willingness to contribute. A permission for use by you only in a Wikipedia article only is not compatible with the principle of Wikimedia of free use by anyone anywhere. What you can do is try to convince him to offer his photograph under a free license. For a professional photo, expect it to be more difficult than obtaining a simple permission to use. If he agrees, only then would you ask him to confirm the free license, through one method or another. IMO, the best method is mentioned above by Ww2censor, if the photographer places the photo, with a clear indication of the free license, on a webpage he controls. The other possible method mentioned above is the OTRS e-mail, about which you can direct the photographer to the help page C:Commons:OTRS for details. -- Asclepias (talk) 17:05, 14 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Agree. The simplest way is to ask and point Ben Harries to:Special:UploadWizard then click on the NEXT box at the very bottom, so that he can upload the image himself with the least hassle to all.  This happens to be on our sister project Wikimedia Commons, yet Wikipedia can then use the image. From  Ben Harries's point of view, he will see that he still can retain his 'copyright' with same rights as  if he had uploaded to Wikipedia. This may seem gobbledygook to you but Ben -being a professional- will be able to suss out both the copyright considerations and how to upload. If he still has any questions will be happy to answer them. Wikipedia Commons should not really be a PR vehicle but pro's  have found that it gets examples of their work to a wider audience.--Aspro (talk) 17:50, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Will this image be deleted?
Will the image of the Scots School Albury logo found at: http://www.hkosc.com.hk/yxzl_detail2.asp?id=1120&cid=3 be deleted if I uploaded to Wikipedia? This is the image URL: http://www.hkosc.com.hk/schoolimage/9f2a0d3d-01ce-4670-8180-7ec8a02d90bd.jpg. Catmando999  Check out his talk page!  02:34, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
 * That image will need a Non-free content rationale to not be deleted. Otherwise, it strikes me as an appropriate usage of non-free logos being used to illustrate the subject they stand for.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:05, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
 * The linked image is not the same as on the current school website. You should use that image. ww2censor (talk) 10:28, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Whoops. Yeah, that would be this URL if I got the right website.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 13:17, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
 * How then would I correctly upload the image? Catmando999   Check out his talk page!  11:24, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

You need to first download it on your computer and then upload it though either Special:Upload or the File Upload Wizard. Remember to use "non-free logo" and to add a detailed nonfree content rationale.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 12:14, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! Catmando999  Check out his talk page!  21:42, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Picture for Carmine Gorga Page
Dear Wikipedia,

I was recently notified that I picture I was used for Carmine Gorga was taken down for Fair-Use. I had permission from the author to use th picture I had posted. Is it still okay for me to put the picture on the page with this permission? Thank you for your help!

With best regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jjkbqb (talk • contribs) 00:26, 16 September 2015 (UTC)


 * We do not accept copyright image of living people, so no you cannot put the image back now. You have to find or get a freely licenced image, so if the author of the image you uploaded is the copyright holder please have them follow the procedure found at WP:CONSENT but they must understand that their permission allows anyone to use it for anything including commercial and derivative use. Because the image has already been deleted have them give the actual name of the image you uploaded so it can be reinstated after their permission has been verified. Good luck. ww2censor (talk) 07:49, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Bernie Sanders photo in the public domain?
I was curious about which I initially marked as a historical photograph but possibly is PD-US-not renewed? Did not see University of Chicago's newspaper listed on the periodical renewal list?--The lorax (talk) 19:11, 14 September 2015 (UTC)


 * There is no evidence at the source that this image was ever published which may be why you will not find a periodical renewal especially if you don't know the name of the publication. Do you think it was university's The Chicago Maroon? The source just says it is a photographic print. You also need to consider whether the image complies with all 10 non-free media policy guidelines especially as the image itself has no critical commentary and his 1962 participation in student activity can be easily expressed in prose without the use of a copyright image. ww2censor (talk) 08:06, 16 September 2015 (UTC)


 * , I had presumed it ran in the Chicago Maroon but perhaps not, I don't see any formal copyright renewal of the image, I tried reaching out to the University but unless otherwise noted, I feel that this could be marked as PD-US-not renewed, no?--The lorax (talk) 15:31, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Photos from the Maroon are identified as such. This is not one of them. -- Asclepias (talk) 16:29, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
 * The Special Collections Research center at University of Chicago replied about this image, saying "This photograph has been published in print form and on the web numerous times and we do not have any information indicating that the copyright was renewed." That sounds like the photo is in the public domain, no?--The lorax (talk) 15:27, 17 September 2015 (UTC)


 * That reply is just too vague, so without more information of when and where it was first published its copyright status could be for 95 years from first publication if published after 1989 or even 120 if never published. This commons copyright page section gives you an idea of the complexities for an image such as this and why more details are necessary to make a determination. Personally I think it is copyright but unnecessary in the article Bernie Sanders. BTW it has no rationale for the unse in University of Chicago sit-ins an article in which the image is more appropriate. ww2censor (talk) 22:57, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Cropping Creative Commons CC-BY licensed image from Flickr and upload to Wikipedia / Wikimedia
Hi Wikimedia copyright team,

I am consider want to upload the image obtained from the Flickr image at the page https://www.flickr.com/photos/byshafiu/7375047798 for the article Vishen Lakhiani, which I need to crop into a specific person only. This image is licensed under Creative Commons CC-BY, which means this image can be modified for later use. However, I am not very sure about is it appropriate to do this or not at Wikipedia / Wikimedia page when I saw the message on the upload page stated:

Below the Information template, insert some categories that describe the content shown in the work. Fill in the description. Change the destination filename to something descriptive and meaningful. Be sure to upload the 'Original' version of the image, nothing smaller!

Hopefully anyone can try answer to this solution. Thanks. --WPSamson (talk) 14:58, 14 September 2015 (UTC)


 * What I do when I use crops of CC-BY images is that at Commons, I upload the original image there, with all the required attributions (This can automatically be done with tools at Commons). Then I will make my crop, upload that to Commons separately, and make sure the same attribution is there, and then add in the ExtractedFrom template (which is specifically meant for cropped images) in the file description to point to the original image that I uploaded. --M ASEM (t) 15:30, 14 September 2015 (UTC)


 * That Flickr image is freely licenced and some editors will first upload the highest resolution image and then upload the cropped version over it. Others will upload the full original image, which is this one under one name, then locally do the crop and upload the cropped image under a different name, but in that case you should include the templates extracted from and the commons template Image extracted in the two images. AFAIK neither method is wrong or even preferred. Flickr images are available in different resolutions and you should always upload the highest resolution which Flickr term the "Original" version. Good luck but ask again if necessary. ww2censor (talk) 15:42, 14 September 2015 (UTC)


 * I got the message from the OTRS said that the image has been approved and uploaded the cropped version of the image. Thanks for the help, Masem & ww2censor. --WPSamson (talk) 04:52, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Lol key escrow.jpg
File:Lol key escrow.jpg has a copyright notice claiming it is a work of the US Government, but it is not. It is by github user Xyl2k. I think the person who attached the copyright notice is confused because the photo depicts something that is the work of the US Government. Kendall-K1 (talk) 13:57, 15 September 2015 (UTC)


 * From what I can find out, you appear to be right. He may be happy to help you correct matters with the right CC license. Thanks for pointing it out. Would you like to contact him or shall I try?--Aspro (talk) 14:27, 15 September 2015 (UTC) Update: Have sent off email to whom I think authored this image. Will come back with any news.--Aspro (talk) 14:45, 15 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I don't have much experience with either copyright issues or Wikimedia. Kendall-K1 (talk) 17:00, 15 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Reply from Xylito:

“''Hello, Yes i'm the owner of this image, i took it, it's not from the U.S gov. But i'm not really familliar with Wikipedia, can you make the change to attribut the image to 'Steven K' or just 'Xylitol' ? Related to the image right i really don't know, the files presented are duplicates of real-world objects which i don't have the   rights to. That why i don't have applied a license yet to the 3D files, as i don't know which license can apply in such case.''”


 * He is situated in Frace too, so I don't know if the French 'freedom of panorama' issue complicates this. Can someone familiar with French copyright give their views. My gut reaction is that as this was first uploaded to WC, this correction would be better off handled there.--Aspro (talk) 09:24, 16 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Have re-posted this to WC so that all discussions are in one place:  https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump/Copyright#Copyright_of_a_photo_of_a_3D_copy_made_in_France_and_taken_in_France]--Aspro (talk) 10:01, 16 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Final Update: Thanks . This image now has a OTRS ticket to acknowledge the rightful author - which makes our use of it legitimate.--Aspro (talk) 14:13, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

if the copyright holder is a town?
I want to use a photo of a town vehicle. The person who took the photo said "OK" but she is a town employee and took the photo for a town website. Who do I approach for permission?

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.99.255.9 (talk) 20:58, 16 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Was she specifically asked to take the photograph as part of her remit or did she take it and donate the photograph to the website? The former suggests that it was done by a Government employee and is thus in the public domain. If the photographer took it on her own behalf, then she holds copyright. If it was done whilst she was on duty, it would be reasonable to assume Public Domain. So can you add anymore details?--Aspro (talk) 21:13, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Er, that's not true. There's only a few limited places where a work taken by an employee of a gov't as part of their duties becomes public domain; that is at least in the Federal US Gov't level, and at the State of California level. We cannot immediately assume PD just because this was a gov't worker. --M ASEM  (t) 21:18, 16 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Also, if you can obtain the  actual  camera image frame copy (via email or whatever),  (rather than cut and paste from the afore said website) it will have the exif.  If it was her personaly owned camera it can be assumed that the copyright belongs to her. Then, just ask her to submite a OTRS to Wikimedia. Of course, as suggested above, if this  vehicle was shot in Area 51 it may well not be in Public Domain. Did it have wheels or just hover in the air? Or was it taken in a public space and not on private property?--Aspro (talk) 21:28, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Your response suggest that the camera owner is the copyright holder. That is not a fair assumption. The copyright holder almost always is originally the person who snapped the picture. (There are some rare and famous exceptions which are unlikely to apply here.) It is quite common and acceptable for the person who actually takes the picture to agree to transfer the copyright to someone else, which could be the owner of the camera. The transfer does not have to be in writing.-- S Philbrick (Talk)  21:48, 18 September 2015 (UTC)


 * ? “The transfer does not have to be in writing”? !!. If you're  assuming someone can steal my copyright by a non-written agreement, you can take very long walk an very short pier. That would be  a he said but  she said   non contract.  Some large companies may try and frighten their employes by coming out with this sort of rubbish but please not here. --Aspro (talk) 22:43, 18 September 2015 (UTC)


 * I agree that the copyright owner is almost always the person who snapped the picture, however your assertion that a copyright transfer does not have be in writing is incorrect (at least in the U.S.). Under U.S. Copyright law a copyright transfer is not valid unless it is in writing, oral agreements to transfer copyright are invalid, see Title 17 § 204 (a): "A transfer of copyright ownership, other than by operation of law, is not valid unless an instrument of conveyance, or a note or memorandum of the transfer, is in writing and signed by the owner of the rights conveyed or such owner's duly authorized agent." —RP88 (talk) 22:56, 18 September 2015 (UTC)


 * If it is on a website, please show us the link.--Aspro (talk) 21:45, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Free or non-free
If I were to upload a Lego stop motion video onto Wikipedia to showcase on my user page, will it be free of non-free (copyrighted) because it has Lego in it? Catmando999  Check out his talk page!  08:43, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 * You are talking about a video you made yourself of Legos? As far as I know Legos per se are not copyrighted (dunno if it's for lack of originality or some other reason), only their assembly can. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:49, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you Jo-Jo Eumerus. I just don't want it to get deleted or something Catmando999   Check out his talk page!  22:15, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 * What is the video of, exactly? The assembly process?Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 22:17, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 * As it transpires, I'm probably not going to be able to upload because it's too long it at all but the majority of my stop motions are action-themed. (Mini-figures fighting each other). They aren't that good actually, but I do enjoy watching them again sometimes. This one was about a drive-by and what happened afterward. I also do some animation type ones with paper, a pencil and a rubber.    Catmando999   Check out his talk page!  05:07, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

Alan Partridge image
Hello! I'm in the process of trying to get the Alan Partridge article to GA status. The reviewer, Johannah, has pointed out that the main image (not uploaded or added by me) is probably a violation of copyright - it's an official image but the uploader said it's their own work (unlikely) and has since been banned for vandalism.

I need some help figuring out what image we can use instead. I'm an experienced Wiki editor, but I've never been very good at figuring out fair use; not my strong point, sorry. I notice that the image for Homer Simpson (a FA) is a copyrighted image taken from a press pack, so I suppose this article could do something similar. I downloaded a press kit for the Alan Partridge film from here though none of the photos are ideal, IMO. The image from this Mid Morning Matters press release would be ideal for the lead, but do you think it can be used? Any guidance is appreciated. Popcornduff (talk) 06:19, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Hello . Homer Simpson is, of course, an entirely imaginary animated character so it is impossible for anyone to take a freely licensed photo of him. Alan Partridge is, on the other hand, a fictional character played by a real life actor who, unsurprisingly, looks quite a bit like him. And we have several free images available of that actor, Steve Coogan. So, one possibility is to use one of those photos. If none of those photos are acceptable in your opinion, then please study our policy on the use of non free images and see if a non free photo of the character is so dramatically different from a freely licensed photo of the actor that a non-free image is justified under a strict reading of policy. Cullen328   Let's discuss it  06:50, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
 * As Cullen328 points out there is virtually no visual difference between Alan Partridge and Steve Coogan, so I think a non-free image is really unacceptable in this case. ww2censor (talk) 11:28, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

Photographs of the Zuse Z1 computer from a museum
I took several close-up photos of Konrad Zuse's Z1 computer (Z1_(computer)) at the Deutches Technikmuseum Berlin earlier this year. Is it OK to add them to Wikipedia and the appropriate page? There are already two distance shots of the computer, but no detail, which I think would be useful. Srimech (talk) 01:18, 20 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Being a utilitarian product, any photo you take can be freely licenced by you and you should upload them to the commons, so all wikis can use them. ww2censor (talk) 08:37, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Uploading profile picture troubleshooting
Hello, I am running into trouble uploading a profile/headshot picture for a wikipedia article I have been working on. The image is for the page of author Hampton Sides. The owner of the photograph has sent an email to wikipedia permisisons However, is there a particular license, or something more specific that I/we need to provide in order to obtain permission to upload the image? I read through the Media Copyright information as best as I could, but I'm not too sure what step to take next given my circumstance. I have permission, I just don't know how to parlay that into a valid copyright... Any help on this would be very much appreciated! Best, Artfuldodger06 Artfuldodger06 (talk) 5:19 PM, September 20, 2015


 * Greetings. By "Wikipedia permissions" do you mean OTRS? What does that permission allow us to do with the image? For living people, we generally only use free images; using a non-free one is usually not justifiable. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 06:43, 21 September 2015 (UTC)


 * The copyright holder, not you or the subject, but generally the photographer, can verify their permission by following the procedure found at WP:CONSENT which is pretty clear exactly what is needed for the OTRS team and the wording to be used. Just be aware that the OTRS team are rather backlogged. I see the image File:Hampton Sides.jpg has a notice stating: An OTRS notice was applied over 45 days ago, but no message at OTRS has been processed since this tag was applied so you should hurry up and get that permission submitted, as it does not appear to ever have been sent. Make sure to include the actual file name as uploaded because it may be deleted but if permission is forthcoming it will be undeleted at that time. ww2censor (talk) 08:47, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Uploaded picture
Hi, I'm and I'm writing a wiki page for an individual. She gave me a jpg she took of herself in August, and I thought that I properly filled out the forms. I am having her send me an email validating that she is the owner (and photographer) and has given it to me for use.

I assume that such an email would be sufficient?

Thanks, SL — Preceding unsigned comment added by Slachutm (talk • contribs) 03:49, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Greetings. They could also publish it elsewhere (say on their personal website if they have one) and put a Wikipedia-compatible license tag on the image page.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:23, 22 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Besides publishing the image elsewhere they can also send their email to the OTRS team by following the procedure found at WP:CONSENT which contains the accepted text for their permission email. Good luck. ww2censor (talk) 10:30, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Picture for article
I have a picture which I want to add to one of my Raja Changez Sultan, its in user space right now. I know the artist personally and I asked his permission to use an image of his painting for the article, he agreed and said I could download an image from his facebook page, is that acceptable copy right wise? Can I upload the image?Poochi22 (talk) 16:07, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Not unless the permission permits to sell and modify the work without having to ask for extra allowance. Only free images are allowed in userspace.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:27, 24 September 2015 (UTC)


 * All you need to do is email this link to your friend and ask him to email off the form giving his declaration of consent to: >permissions-commons@wikimedia.org< It is all explained there.--Aspro (talk) 19:08, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

1924 lobby cards
I'm used to dealing with material when working with silent films, and I'd just like someone to spotcheck my train of logic before I upload 1924 material: Clearly, I can down-sample the image and upload it locally as material, but given the paucity of anything surviving related to this work, I'd rather not have to do that. I'm fairly certain that the lack of copyright notice/registration/renewal associated with the cards is sufficient to declare them public domain material, but Warner Bros. Entertainment v. X One X Productions makes me question whether I can say that (especially with respect to the project's licensing policies); it is entirely possible that the cards themselves are in the public domain but that not all possible commercial derivative works of those cards are equally free of copyright obligations if they "incorporate aspects of the characters developed solely" in the film. Is that my responsibility to deal with as prospective uploader, or does the burden rest on the reusing party, or can we all just pretend that Warner Bros. Entertainment v. X One X Productions doesn't exist because the governing jurisdiction of Wikipedia is not the Eighth Circuit? Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 19:44, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) The lobby cards for the 1924 It Is the Law unquestionably lack a printed copyright notice, and so would seem to qualify for . Even if there was a copyright notice that was somehow removed or overlooked (and there's not), there was no registration, and provably no renewal in 1951/2. Done and done, right? Well...
 * 2) However, frames from the film would be derivative works, and the copyright conditions of the film would attach. In this case, It Is the Law had its copyright renewed in 1952.
 * 3) However again, contemporary film stills are not actually scenes from the film itself; that is, they were taken from separate cameras, and typically were staged before or after the actual scenes were recorded. In this case, it is impossible to explicitly demonstrate this, but no reasonable question remains. If nothing else, color stills for a black-and-white film ought to provide a clue that these aren't just taken directly from the film frames! Nevertheless, some aspects of the characters' appearance and staging may have elements of the film's copyright attached.
 * 4) Finally, in this case, the film itself is a derivative work of a play (itself potentially the derivative of an earlier printed work), but everything prior to the 1924 movie release was pre-1923 and unquestionably public domain due to age.

Fixing copyright of photos
Hi,

Below are the issues that have come up for the two pages I've worked on. Wondering how to go about fixing these, thanks!:

File source and copyright licensing problem with File:Subrahmanyam Jaishankar.jpeg[edit source] File Copyright problem Thanks for uploading File:Subrahmanyam Jaishankar.jpeg. However, it currently is missing information on its copyright status and its source. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously.

If you did not create this work entirely yourself, you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. If you obtained it from a website, please add a link to the page from which it was taken, together with a brief restatement of the website's terms of use of its content. If the original copyright holder is a party unaffiliated with the website, that author should also be credited. You will also need to state under what licensing terms it was released. Please refer to the image use policy to learn what files you can or cannot upload on Wikipedia. The page on copyright tags may help you to find the correct tag to use for your file.

Please add this information by editing the image description page. If the necessary information is not added within the next days, the image will be deleted. If the file is already gone, you can still make a request for undeletion and ask for a chance to fix the problem.

Please also check any other files you may have uploaded to make sure they are correctly tagged. Here is a list of your uploads. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Eeekster (talk) 20:37, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Rajan Navani[edit source] Ambox warning yellow.svg The article Rajan Navani has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this biography of a living person will be deleted unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the prod blp tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within seven days, the article may be deleted, but you can request that it be undeleted when you are ready to add one. Cahk (talk) 20:23, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

License tagging for File:Rajan Navani.jpg[edit source] Thanks for uploading File:Rajan Navani.jpg. You don't seem to have indicated the license status of the image. Wikipedia uses a set of image copyright tags to indicate this information.

To add a tag to the image, select the appropriate tag from this list, click on this link, then click "Edit this page" and add the tag to the image's description. If there doesn't seem to be a suitable tag, the image is probably not appropriate for use on Wikipedia. For help in choosing the correct tag, or for any other questions, leave a message on Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. Thank you for your cooperation. --ImageTaggingBot (talk) 00:05, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

To release Ambassador Col. Baba Daya SIngh Bedi's photograph on the wikipedia page
Dear Ma'am / Sir,

Please share the document / form to be filled whereby I may verify the copyright status of the picture so that it may be uploaded on the webpage. I admit I am not very tech savvy so a simple step by step procedure would be of great help.

This picture was taken by Baba Aridaman Singh Bedi in 1957 and on his passing away, the copyright belongs to his widow, Mrs. Avinash Kaur Bedi.

I look forward hearing from you.

With warm regards,

Sunamika Preeti Singh 9810631031 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sunamikapreeti (talk • contribs) 07:55, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Greetings. The copyright holder needs to release it under a free license. Check out WP:Donating copyrighted materials for more details.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:00, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Copyright of Image not found
Dear Sir/Mdm,

I found a picture on a bio page on http://www.worldcitiessummit.com.sg. However, the image info does not specify who the picture belongs to. I found that it has been used on several other bio pages. May I know how do I label this image? I've uploaded it, but wiki says that it will be deleted if the copyright information is not provided.

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiwak991 (talk • contribs) 09:20, 25 September 2015 (UTC)


 * I presume you are talking about File:YapKwongWeng Media Cover Image.jpg, your only upload that I can see, though the linked page does not show that image. The "All rights reserved" and "©" copyright symbol at the bottom of the page should be a clue for you. Unless the image you want to use is expressly shown to be freely licenced then, in the vast majority of cases, it is copyright to someone and we cannot use it and having been uploaded will be deleted unless the copyright owner gives permission. You may find it useful to read my image copyright information page to see some of the issues such image encounter. ww2censor (talk) 11:17, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

File's description page
How do I change information on a file's description page? (This is regarding Copyright ownership of a image I uploaded) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smithr32 (talk • contribs) 12:54, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Just edit the file description page. The edit buttons are on the top bar.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 13:42, 26 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Just click on the edit button at the top of the image page, BUT it looks like this is a copyright image as tineye finds 199 copies online, including one on this NBC News webpage that clearly attributes it to Microsoft. So, I've go to ask, who took the photo and did they give you a free licence to use it? If the answer is no, then it will be deleted. ww2censor (talk) 13:45, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

Orphaned Image Question
I had written a draft article about an Artist – Susan Eleanor Boulet (Susan Seddon Boulet) – in my own personal Wikipedia space; it was here: User:Mbabco/Susan Eleanor Boulet (Susan Seddon Boulet). I subsequently moved it to here: Draft:Susan Eleanor Boulet (Susan Seddon Boulet)

I added some images of her art work under Fair use and received this message: However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia." The following tag was added to the top of the file: di-orphaned fair use|date=24 September 2015}}

What do I need to do to let the bot know it IS in an article. I can't find a list of tags that I might add to replace the {{di-orphaned one above nor can I find a way to notify whoever needs to know that it is in an article.

Any help is appreciated. Apologies if I overlooked the info somewhere. I'm new to Wikipedia and just learning to navigate things. I've placed it in this area because the issue seems related to the fact that I'm requesting fair-use. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mbabco (talk • contribs) 21:16, 26 September 2015


 * Well the images you uploaded are derivative works and so require both a copyright licence for the photo and for the artwork itself. Unfortunately you have neither. The artist has not been dead ling enough for her work to have fallen into the public domain, so her heirs would need to give you permission to use any image taken by you or others under a free licence that we accept. You claim the use of these images as "fair use" but we have a much stricter standard for non-free image which must comply with all 10 non-free media content policy guidelines because of our goal of providing only free content, as in copyright free. Some language wikis do not allow any copyright media at all. Generally you may see the use of one image in an artists article to show an example of their work but any image will really need some critical commentary about the work or its style, preferable sourced by reliable third parties which is an acceptable non-free use. You may need to find out where some of her images are and take a photo yourself, so the photo can be released by you under a free licence but the painting will still be a non-free image for which a rationale can be written. BTW, we do not allow the use of non-free image on any pages that are not mainspace, so until your article goes live any such image will be deleted. ww2censor (talk) 23:02, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

UN global goals logo
I wish to use the logo of the UN global goals on Sustainable development goals - can I do this and if so can someone help me upload? JMWt (talk) 18:55, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
 * A wider question is whether the licensing of the current image, File:Logo of the United Nations Conference on Sustainable Development.jpg, is inaccurate given that it does not appear to fall into any of the categories on the PD-UN licensing template. I presume the logo you are referring to is this one? If so, it dovetails nicely into the conversation about the accuracy of the above license. Further, do you intend on replacing the current image on the article with the one you propose? --Hammersoft (talk) 19:01, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
 * that's right, I am suggesting replacing the existing logo with the correct one. The link I gave above is to the license on their website, if that makes any difference.JMWt (talk) 19:18, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Given that, the asset license makes it clear the logo is not compatible with our free license standards, and would have to be tagged as non-free. I concur it should replace the currently used logo (which is about an event, not the organization). --Hammersoft (talk) 19:27, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not clear if that means I can upload it or not.. JMWt (talk) 06:06, 26 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Surely this is a clear example where PD-textlogo applies? It only comprises some blocks of colour arranged in a circle and some plain text. ww2censor (talk) 10:18, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Can someone give me the help link for uploading this kind of image? I'm not used to using non-free images which are not on the commons.JMWt (talk) 14:17, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

File:Pyotr Genrikhovich Tiedemann and Adelaida Mikhailovna Skriabin.PNG
Is the above photo, taken in 1902, in the public domain? It was almost certainly taken in Russia. The caption in the source says "(Photo: O. F. German)", which I take to be the photographer. Unfortunately, it's almost impossible to search a name like "O. F. German" online. It is unclear from the source if the photo was merely among the personal effects of the man in the photo and never before published prior to 1995, but it seems likely. Srnec (talk) 23:49, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
 * If the photograph was first published in 1995, then the copyright expires 70 years after the death of 'O. F. German' or on 1 January 2048, whichever is later. See c:COM:HIRTLE. --Stefan2 (talk) 09:50, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Disputed non-free use rationale for File:Designer Margaret Howell.jpg
Hello, I have uploaded an image to 'Margaret Howell' but just received an email stating 'Disputed non-free use rationale for File:Designer Margaret Howell.jpg' I'm not quite sure how to solve this. The image is not my image, but I have referenced the image - and have included a link of where it came from. Please could you talk me through what I need to do incase the image is taken down? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Steph Davies (talk • contribs) 2015-09-28T12:37:56‎
 * There is no evidence that the depicted person is dead. Per WP:NFC §1, you will need to provide evidence of this or see the picture deleted. --Stefan2 (talk) 21:06, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Do Public Domain Images require credits?
I upload the image around 8 years ago and didn't know anything about copyright and simply put it as public domain. Now due to recent events and generally a lot of different websites are using my photo without permission, which I think is correct as it is in the public domain. However, are you allowed to use these photos without crediting the author? I've seen it even in TV Commercials recently without anything ever mentioning my name. Thanks.--195.212.199.56 (talk) 13:47, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately yes, PD removes any sense of ownership or crediting because the public owns the image for all purposes, and there's unfortunately little that can be done now. However, if you do submit again, you can use the Creative Commons licensing which is as good for us in terms of free-ness of images, but also gives you appropriate copyright acknowledgement (particularly CC-BY - that your contribution is required to be documented somehow). --M ASEM  (t) 14:02, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Can I change the licence now or would it have to be deleted and uploaded again? I'm not thinking of deleting and uploading it because I was the first one to upload it and that evidence would be gone if I was to remove it. So, is changing the licence allowed/possible? The 'damage' has been done, but I would like to prevent any new articles from using my image without credit. Is there any way I can do this? --195.212.199.56 (talk) 14:15, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I know you technically can but I don't know if that can legally stick - the cat's out of the bag to speak. It might have some use it from now on with attribution but someone that really wants to use the image can likely find the PD version and use that. --M ASEM (t) 14:21, 28 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Attribution rules vary from country to country. In many countries, it is mandatory to attribute the author in many situations at least until the copyright expires due to moral rights. Copyright is normally mandatory and can't be cancelled by uploading a file with a PD-self template, but expires a number of years after the death of the photographer, and you are obviously not dead yet. The PD-self template acts as a licence which allows people to do a lot with the picture. However, the author's possibilities to license the moral rights tends to be limited, and there might be situations in some countries where the author can't grant a licence which allows people to use the picture without attribution, at least not in the form of a general licence such as PD-self. --Stefan2 (talk) 20:37, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks to both of you. I guess there isn't much that can be done now. I just need to make sure I pay more attention when uploading images in the future. --195.212.199.56 (talk) 08:41, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

The monkey selife...
It's in the news again but more importantly, it's in a song... http://gabrielquotes.org.uk/2015/09/29/morley-academy/#monkeyselfie --Gabrielquotes (talk) 09:06, 29 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Err... Is this a question? Or does it need hating. COI disclaimer to explain my disgust: This ruddy monkey takes better photos than I can. --Aspro (talk) 01:09, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

User-generated image issue
An editor created the image File:Cordlesslarrybffjpg.jpg and, following some previous advice I had given them, tagged it with the cc-by-sa-3.0 licence. However, the image was still. It was only created to thank me on my user talk page, but could someone indulge my vanity and explain what, if anything, needs to be done to address the tag? Cordless Larry (talk) 17:18, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
 * You need to answer the questions in the tag, first and foremost.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 17:25, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
 * The image was created by Asdiprizio, who uploaded it. I would have thought the fact that they gave it a cc-by-sa-3.0 tag would make this clear, but perhaps not? Cordless Larry (talk) 17:28, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the bot cannot tell that. Also, for reuse purposes images need to have this information on the file page.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 17:34, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Jo-Jo Eumerus. So can I add that information, or does Asdiprizio need to do it? Cordless Larry (talk) 17:36, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

this photo it's related to me — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mohammednafea (talk • contribs) 10:24, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
 * File:Cordlesslarrybffjpg.jpg? Are you sure, Mohammednafea? Cordless Larry (talk) 20:27, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi . I don't think Mohammednafea was referring to that particular image. I believe they were trying to ask a question about images they were trying to upload per my suggestion in User talk:Mohammednafea. They seem to be a fairly new user who might not be too familiar with how to post on noticeboards such as MCQ. - Marchjuly (talk) 02:16, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Marchjuly, I sort of suspected that. They now seem to have been blocked for persistent copyright violations.

Cordless Larry (talk) 06:43, 24 September 2015 (UTC) hi and thank you once again gallant knight Sir Cordless Larry. I must say it surprised me that anyone cared about a nearly non-existent newby and I had dashed off mildly harmed by a user calling himself Dennis who deleted my user page in Wikipedia Commons. in fact he deleted every image I posted and wikipedia, once a wonderland, nearly anarchic but "not an experiment" in such, became a hinterland and I was banished from Commons {bot warned not to attempt to re-animate my userpage in commons-topia. and there is my tale of woa/whoa. I have not returned but for this. a dear stranger now friend, Cordless Larry who should live in Wiki Commons forever in whatever copyrighted land he desires. because is the personal not also political, said the jester to the community-is-king. Asdiprizio (talk) 16:03, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

to be clear, I submitted images I created on wikipedia commons using the creative commons license. all images and my wiki commons page were deleted due to copyright violations, but I quite clearly labeled them with creative commons license when prompted to do so. any person who says "the bot doesn't know the difference" needs to really think about the ramifications of such a cavalier attitude regarding the rise of bot sock army. humble suggestion. Asdiprizio (talk) 16:37, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
 * True. Generally the administrators processing the deletion requests have to control that the deletion reason still applies. Out of curiosity, from where did your images come from?Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:44, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Requesting access to flickr photos
I want to use this photo for Alberto Moreno. However the picture says all rights reserved. I have a flickr account. How exactly should I go about requesting to the user/owener of the image if I can use the image? thanks--Shreerajtheauthor (talk) 23:53, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi Shreeraitheusthor. You might find the information you're looking for at Example requests for permission. If you do get in contact with the copyright holder, then you might suggest they check out Donating copyrighted materials so that they understand what a "free license" means. Another thing to try is to post a request for a photo of Alberto Moreno (footballer) at c:Commons:Picture requests. It's quite possible that somebody there can take a photo of Moreno for you and upload it to Commons. - Marchjuly (talk) 07:05, 29 September 2015 (UTC)


 * In Flickr each user has a contact point, listed under the "More" button as Flickrmail. You can them to change the licence to one we accept but don't hold your breath as I have waited over a year for a positive reply and some never reply. If that fails and even so it may be a more fruitful option to find a freely licenced image of Alberto Moreno elsewhere or dig deeper on Flickr. Have you seen this image on the commons; File:Alberto Moreno.jpg? ww2censor (talk) 09:58, 29 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your suggestions. I have contacted the Flckr user. I have seen the Moreno images already used on his page but wanted a current one of him at Liverpool. I will see what the user says thanks.--Shreerajtheauthor (talk) 18:31, 30 September 2015 (UTC)