Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/16 December 2005/User:Moe Epsilon

Moe Epsilon User Page

 * Request made by (please sign below):

Mcfly85 16:32, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Status: Closed no substantative mediation issue -- NicholasTurnbull | (talk) 17:41, 21 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Where is the issue taking place?
 * User:Moe Epsilon


 * Who's involved?
 * User:Mcfly85 and User:Moe Epsilon


 * What's going on?
 * For some reason, Moe Epsilon feels that I am a sockpuppet (which is totally false) and that I have vandalized his page. He has left some comments about me on his user page that attack me and are not true in the slightest bit. I have asked him very nicely to remove the comments about me, but he refuses. I feel this violates the personal attacks official policy on wikipedia, and I am insulted that I have had my user name slandered on this page with various users calling me a troll, vandal, "asshole", and sockpuppet, which are not true at all.


 * ''What would you like to change about that?
 * I simply would like the materials about me to be removed from Moe Epsilon's user page. Nothing more or less.

Mediator response
This is my first case as a mediator but I feel that Moe Epsilon is right in a way. Moe Epsilon has never accused you of being a sockpuppet, but fact is that you were owning sockpuppets. User:David Gerard did a checkuser on you and it was found out that User:Rock09 and someothers were in fact sockpuppets, and as far I can tell you were using them to harrass Moe Epsilon. In my opinion you should be blocked for that and the case should be closed. --Jaranda wat's sup 18:18, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

I am inclined to agree with Aranda56 on this one; reporting what is a statement of fact does not generally fall within the purview of a personal attack, and so it is difficult to see that this matter has any substance in itself. I wouldn't, however, advocate that you are blocked, since it isn't the Mediation Cabal's place to impose punitive sanctions; nonetheless, I do think you should perhaps take a step back and look at exactly what is being said and avoid making accusations of attacks where none exists. I can't actually determine whether or not there is a substantative conflict here that needs remedial action other than your own specification of Moe Epsilon having made personal attacks (which we have determined to be untrue) thus I do not feel there is any way we can help. If on the other hand a real dispute comes to light, you are of course welcome to reapply for our assistance, bearing the above in mind. If you require further help or assistance, please contact either myself or one of my colleagues at the Mediation Cabal. I am hereby marking this case closed. Best regards, -- NicholasTurnbull | (talk) 17:41, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Comments by others
Tell me were there is one personal attack directed towards you on my user page? Moe Epsilon 17:08, 16 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Another comment: As far as I know, Moe Epsilon has not accused you of being a sockpuppet, but of owning sockpuppets. There is a difference.  Ban e  s  17:30, 16 December 2005 (UTC)