Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-02-25 Systema

Request Information

 * Request made by: Sam Spade 19:36, 25 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Where is the issue taking place?
 * The links Vandalism_in_progress, Talk:Systema, User_talk:Sam_Spade/_-_archive/Januar_2006, and Systema - history should be helpful.

An update, User_talk:Pathoschild


 * Who's involved?
 * User:Sysy, User:KimvdLinde, possibly others from the historical conversation back in early January.


 * What's going on?
 * A merger made back in January is suddenly being rather hotly disputed by a handful of non-native english speakers. I have been accused of vandalism, and told to "go away".


 * They feel I was wrong to merge prior to discussion back in January. I feel they are failing to appreciate (or engage in) subtleties, such as the fact that the matter was discussed at length back in January.
 * Comment: As for the claim discussed at length: Merge tag inserted 06:39, 5 January 2006, merging started 08:02, 5 January 2006 , merge tag removed 08:16, 5 January 2006 . Merging announcement at talk page made at 08:13, 5 January 2006 . So, it has not been discussed at all, no time was given. (BTW, pointing this out was my only contribution to the discussion as I checked the Vandalism in progress page) --KimvdLinde 23:47, 25 February 2006 (UTC)


 * ''What would you like to change about that?
 * I would like what is best for the page to be done. It is my appraisal that these articles are on a similar (obscure) topic, were badly in need of a rewrite and a merger, and that I did that back in January. I discussed the matter at that time. If I was wrong, so be it, but I haven't seen a case for it. There seems to be a communication barrier.


 * If you'd prefer we work discreetly, how can we reach you?
 * In any way you like. I don't require discretion, but an agreeable to options if they are preferred by others.


 * Would you be willing to mediate yourself and accept an assignment as a mediator?
 * Certainly. Sam Spade 19:52, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Comments by others
I've never seen hint of these "non-native english speakers" Spade speaks of. Useful links have already been included above, explaining things (most notibly the lack of discussion and a vote before Spade's original merger) Regardless, this issue seems to have been resolved. The associated topics were revisited, rewritten and this issue has been further-explained in Talk:Systema. Now that the original January damage has been repaired, a proper merger vote is welcome. -- Sy / (talk) 18:53, 26 February 2006 (UTC)