Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-04-17 Cartmanland

First off, I had to log in, but my previous edits are under my IP 69.xxx... (i forget the rest of the numbers).

I'm new to wikipedia, so please excuse any mistakes I'm making.

In Cartmanland (an episode of SOUTH PARK), I added a trivial bit of information (the plot point error). Someone keeps deleting it on me without giving any reason. I keep adding it back, but I think at this point, I should ask for help.

I hope I'm doing this right. I hope someone is listening. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jbm867 (talk • contribs) Fasten

Mediation Case: 2006-04-17 Cartmanland
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Request Information

 * Request made by: Jbm867 16:54, 17 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Where is the issue taking place?
 * ... Cartmanland


 * Who's involved?
 * ... Myself and IP user 64.12.117.9.  To a lesser extent, user 205.188.116.131


 * What's going on?
 * ... I added trivial information and he or she keeps deleting it without reason.


 * ''What would you like to change about that?
 * ... Stop deleting it or give me a valid reason why it should be deleted.


 * If you'd prefer we work discreetly, how can we reach you?
 * ... I'd prefer contacting me here on wikipedia.

No thanks. I'm too new/uneducated at this wikipedia stuff to be a mediator.
 * Would you be willing to be a mediator yourself, and accept a mediation assignment in a different case?


 * This is, following the Categorical Imperative, the idea that you might want to do
 * what you expect others to do. You don't have to, of course, that's why it's a question.



Mediator response
Hi Jbm867, it appears that the edit you speak of is the main edit happening on Cartmanland  about the "plot hole".

Unfortunately, the users that are reverting your edit will be difficult to contact since they are AOL users, so it will be difficult to contact them to encourage their participation in mediation. AOL users edit wikipedia coming from AOL's proxy servers, and as you can see, repeated requests to get the attention of these users have failed in the past. However, let's put ourselves in their shoes. Since the edit you're adding is a plot hole that you've recognized in the episode, you can understand if other users might either not agree with you or try to keep the article more descriptive. In short, I'm not sure this merits mediation (since I don't know how to get in touch with the others involved) and it might be solved by simply trying different language in your edit that might be more acceptable to these users. -- Joebeone (Talk) 01:36, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

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