Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-05-23 The Condition of the Working Class in England in 1844

A comment that's been part of the article since the beginning was removed on the 17th, saying there were no sources. I added them on the 18th. The other party removed it again. This has been going on several days, but since they have now joined, they can be talked to.

I challenged them to find any source that regards Engels as inaccurate in his observations, as distinct from the politics it led on to. This has not been met but also they do not give up and it gets irritating.

If there are any specific accusations backed by facts, let them be posted. This hasn't happened and that is what gets me irritated. --GwydionM 19:53, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

I'll copy what I said on the other talk page:

It is misleading to say you provided three sources representing different political viewpoints. They're online shop pages using the same blurb, which in all probability was provided by the publishing company.


 * People don't use the same blurb without thinking about it. I doubt you'd find the same uniformity on a biography of Thatcher, say.  The viewpoint can therefore be regarded as standard.


 * On the other hand, you have compromised with the latest edit. I'm quite happy to leave it at that, unless some mediator has a strong view.

How does one go about winding up these things up? --GwydionM 17:12, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

PS, I also missed using the standard template, I think. It should have been:

Mediation Case: 2006-05-23 The Condition of the Working Class in England in 1844
Please observe Etiquette and Talk Page Etiquette in disputes. If you submit complaints or insults your edits are likely to be removed by the mediator, any other refactoring of the mediation case by anybody but the mediator is likely to be reverted. If you are not satisfied with the mediation procedure please submit your complaints to Wikipedia talk:Mediation Cabal.

Request Information

 * Request made by: GwydionM 17:07, 1 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Where is the issue taking place?
 * The Condition of the Working Class in England in 1844


 * Who's involved?
 * Me and an unregistered user, who has aparantly now registered as Starless and bible black


 * What's going on?
 * There was a dispute, as detailed above. I decided to accept the most recent edit.  The case can be closed, as far as I am concerned.

Sorry about not using the template.

--GwydionM 17:12, 1 June 2006 (UTC)


 * ''What would you like to change about that?
 * Let it stand as it is now.


 * If you'd prefer we work discreetly, how can we reach you?


 * Would you be willing to be a mediator yourself, and accept a mediation assignment in a different case?


 * This is, following the Categorical Imperative, the idea that you might want to do
 * what you expect others to do. You don't have to, of course, that's why it's a question.



Mediator response
Oh, the case can be closed? Heh, alright. If any further problems arise feel free to reply to this case as it will be on my watchlist, but it will be closed and tagged for moving to the archives in the near future. Thanks. Cowman109Talk 19:06, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Evidence
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Compromise offers
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Discussion
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Sorry to have failed to use the standard. But if that's it, I've got plenty else to be getting on with.--GwydionM 17:17, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Request to follow the format
Hello there, I am Cowman109Talk from the Mediation Cabal. Sorry for the delay in the response to this case. However, I'm not quite sure what the problem is here so I can't mediate it at the moment. It would make the process much smoother if you clarified what the problem is by replacing the text on this page with, hit save, and then filled out the questions listed. If you do this I'll get back to you and I'll see if I can help. Thanks. Cowman109Talk 00:49, 1 June 2006 (UTC)