Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-05-29 Russo-Turkish War, 1877–1878

Mediation Case: 2006-05-29 Russo-Turkish War, 1877–1878
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Request Information

 * Request made by: Suicup 11:34, 29 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Where is the issue taking place?
 * The final paragraph of the Russo-Turkish War, 1877–1878 article.


 * Who's involved?
 * Myself (Suicup), User:Hasanidin, and User:Ghirlandajo


 * What's going on?
 * I added a referenced section regarding a massacre and possible ethnic cleansing of Muslims (and others) in the closing stages and aftermath of the Russo-Turkish war. It was promptly reverted. Hasanidin and I both agree on the inclusion of this information, and have used the talk page extensively. Ghirlandajo has been the principle reverter, and hasn't really used the talk page much at all, despite calling for us to use it. The page has now been protected, Ghirlandajo doesn't seem to respond anymore, and so i have decided to see if an external party can help. Thankyou.Suicup 11:40, 29 May 2006 (UTC)


 * ''What would you like to change about that?
 * Myself and Hasanidin would like the paragraph in the final section regarding the massacre of Muslims to be reincluded in the article. Failing that, we would at least expect a mentioning of the event. If certain sentences etc are to be modified then so be it, however in my opinion, a blanket deletion of the entire thing would be unacceptable, and academically dishonest. The paragraph in question is as follows:

"After the San Stefano treaty, the Russians set up their own governmental system in the new Bulgaria. Russians as well as Bulgarian nationalists then conducted a massacre of Turks, especially Muslims, on the scale of the Ottoman massacre of Bulgarians in 1876. [3] Although many of the Bulgarian perpetrators were peasants, who had lived side by side with Muslims in mixed villages for hundreds of years, they were spurred on by Russian Pan-slavism. By the conclusion of the war more than half the Muslims in Bulgaria had either died, or fled as refugees. The Jewish population suffered the same fate as the Muslims, being killed or forced to flee by the Russians.[4] Whether or not this event was an 'ethnic cleansing' is up for debate, however the demographic changes which occurred then can still be seen today in the modern state of Bulgaria."

Keep in mind this paragraph has been referenced from critiqued academic sources.Suicup 03:30, 2 June 2006 (UTC)


 * If you'd prefer we work discreetly, how can we reach you?


 * Would you be willing to be a mediator yourself, and accept a mediation assignment in a different case?


 * This is, following the Categorical Imperative, the idea that you might want to do
 * what you expect others to do. You don't have to, of course, that's why it's a question.



Mediator response
I am the mediator; I have some questions I would like answered.

what do you wish to change Geo.plrd 21:39, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Taking over. Ideogram 04:15, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Opposing party seems to have left. Closing case. Ideogram 19:28, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Opposing party is back to reverting edits without discussion. Left a note on his talk page; reopening case. Ideogram 17:05, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Ghirlandajo has removed my note on his talk page, calling it "trolling". This mediation is now closed. Ideogram 17:53, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Cowman has reopened the case. Ideogram 04:04, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

No activity for two weeks. Closing case. --Ideogram 05:14, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

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