Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-07-06 Template:ASUE book

Mediation Case: 2006-07-06 Template:ASUE book
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Request Information

 * Request made by: Alan 21:01, 6 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Where is the issue taking place?
 * Template:ASUE book


 * Who's involved?
 * Alan 21:01, 6 July 2006 (UTC) and CyberGhostface


 * What's going on?
 * I've done extensive editing to the Series of Unfortunate Events book pages. I noticed that all thepages had code in the infobox section that wasn't showing up. I added this info to the infobox template so that it would show up properly, and added further info not coded properly. CyberGhostface subsequently reverted the template so that extra info no longer showed up. I rv'd with a note to him as to why I added the info, and he re-rvd to previous version, with a curt reply.


 * ''What would you like to change about that?
 * I would like my work restored, as I spent a lot of time on it, and feel it adds to the value of Wikipedia in general, and the pages in question specifically.


 * Would you prefer we work discreetly? If so, how can we reach you?
 * I don't mind openness on this issue. Do as you would see fit.

Mediator response
Hi, there. I admit I'm a bit confused by exactly what has occured here. There doesn't appear to have been any conversation concerning the template other than a request to not revert the changes. Before requesting mediation, it may be best to speak with him and see exactly what the problem is (it appears to be that it makes the template much longer, thus cluttering pages). Addressing that problem may be good, and you may also want to start a discussion concerning the changes in the talk page of the template so that others can weigh in their opinions. Does that clear things up a bit? Cowman109 Talk 23:18, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * All the info that was in the boxes had been coded onto almost all the pages for the individual books. I felt, and still feel, that the info CyberGhostface took out makes the pages lesser than they were, especially since everything in there is massively recurring in each book. I don't know of any other location that had all that info in one place for easy access. I didn't want to start a revert war over this issue, especially since CGf didn't seem willing to give my arguments any listen. Alan 23:30, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Please read my response below.--CyberGhostface 23:45, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Closing case. Appears to be a misunderstanding, and is settled. SynergeticMaggot 20:55, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Compromise offers
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Discussion

 * I'll give my opinion on this. The original version was fairly brief. It dealt with the recurring themes; Count Olaf's current disguise, the Baudelaire's current guardian, the images on the border, the spine color, ex libris and final image and clue. Actually, now that I'm reading this over, even that is rather unwieldly.
 * Another user by the name of The Man in Question added Lemony Snicket's Beatrice dedications, descriptions of the author and illustrator photographs, and a complete copy of Lemony Snicket's lettor to the editor. That is way too much for an infobox. I reverted it.
 * Anyway, Akcarver added them back in so I removed them once again. If you look most infoboxes the average number of fields is six. Ten is way too much, especially since most of them are wordy, especially Lemony Snicket's letter.--CyberGhostface 00:44, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, most infoboxes have an average of six fields. In this case, the incredible amount of recurring themes in these books should be documented somewhere. The ones you leave in are certainly primary, but the ones you took out are important too, and should not be lost. Alan 19:20, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
 * If I wanted to I could add an extra ten fields to numerous other infoboxes out there. But its not neccessary. They'd be better suited in different spots in the article rather than being crammed into the infobox.--CyberGhostface 19:40, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
 * That would be acceptable, as the structure of this series is more repetitive than any other that I am aware of. Alan 20:12, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * So what did you want to do then?--CyberGhostface 20:19, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I'll be creating a Recurring themes section in the next couple of days and start adding the info into the pages. Perhaps a mediator should close out this case.Alan 18:30, 11 July 2006 (UTC)