Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-07-28 Special Operations units of the United Kingdom

Mediation Case: 2006-07-28 Special Operations units of the United Kingdom
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Request Information

 * Request made by: Tashtastic 14:42, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

At the article called Special Operations units of the United Kingdom
 * Where is the issue taking place?

User ALR: ...
 * Who's involved?

Has taken a sudden dis-like to the article and added a message to get the entire article deleted. Has also been vandalising it by slowly deleting huge sections of the article, untill there is almost nothing left of it. I have tried discussing it with them on the discussion page, but they seem determined to delete regardless. As far as I can understand from their responses, it's because they think the article title sounds like an American term 'Special Operations Forces'.
 * What's going on?

To me, deleting it seems like a very over-the-top and extreme reaction.

At least to stop it from being deleted or vandalised further.
 * ''What would you like to change about that?


 * Would you prefer we work discreetly? If so, how can we reach you?
 * ... not necessary. Reach me on my talk page. Tashtastic 14:42, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Mediator response
I'm taking this case on. Torinir  ( Ding my phone  My support calls   E-Support Options  ) 21:00, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Mass deletion of content is a major concern, however previous content is also disputed here. I've reverted to undo the mass removal of content. I've also stressed that content should not be altered unless agreed on, and I would make the changes once agreed upon. Torinir  ( Ding my phone  My support calls   E-Support Options  ) 21:27, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Mediation requestor has not responded to any mediation posting to this point. I have left a reminder on his user talk page. If there is no response by August 5, 2006, I may be forced to discontinue mediation for lack of response by the requesting party and submit the article to AfD as second party had originally PROD'd and it was disputed. Torinir  ( Ding my phone  My support calls   E-Support Options  ) 01:26, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Requestor has replied to the Mediation. Torinir  ( Ding my phone  My support calls   E-Support Options  ) 17:08, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Compromise offers
This section is for listing and discussing compromise offers.

Proposed Solution:

Suggestion: It's become clear that there is no real way of defining these regular units which have a level of mystique about them (other than the former SF units) but that we all know which units we are talking about. Might I suggest a workable compromise would be a simple link to the article for each unit in United Kingdom Special Forces (even if they are red links), but without any kind of opening paragraph suggesting they are "Special Operations Forces" or "Elite" or anything else for that matter. This would simply be an acknowedgement that readers of the UKSF article may also be interested in these units, without suggesting anything that cannot be backed up. Would this be acceptable to Tashtastic? Yorkshire Phoenix (talk • contribs) 15:52, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Copied here. Torinir  ( Ding my phone  My support calls   E-Support Options  ) 18:28, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Proposed solution went too long without adequate input by Tashtastic. ALR has put the article on AFD. Torinir  ( Ding my phone  <small style="color:green;">My support calls <sub style="color:blue;">  E-Support Options  ) 09:02, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Article has been deleted per AFD. Closing case. Torinir <sub style="color:red;"> ( Ding my phone  <small style="color:green;">My support calls <sub style="color:blue;">  E-Support Options  ) 07:24, 9 August 2006 (UTC)