Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-08-03 AMC Matador

Mediation Case: 2006-08-03 AMC Matador
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Request Information

 * Request made by: SteveBaker 01:39, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

User:SteveBaker
 * Where is the issue taking place?

AMC Matador - today - but over a variety of other automotive articles. Let's stick with AMC Matador for this mediation.
 * Who's involved?

User:SteveBaker and User:Wiarthurhu - this time around at least. Wiathurhu sometimes changes his signature to read matador300 so look for both names on signatures.
 * What's going on?

User:Wiarthurhu has repeatedly added a photograph of a toy car he claims to have built himself (a pinewood derby racer - his claim to have made it himself is on the image page description) into AMC Matador. I (and others) patiently explain that we don't normally remark on toy cars in articles about real cars because just about every real car has toys made of it - and it's just not notable. In this case, it's worse. The photo is in violation of WP:NOR - and it's WP:Vanity. I and several others have reverted this section of the article on several previous occasions - we've discussed it extensively on the talk page - and MANY other people have complaints about this user that are evident on (for example) Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Automobiles. Today the problematic text and photo reappeared - I reverted it - adding a clear explanation of why in the edit log - and in the talk page. He re-reverted - calling me a vandal (which he knows I'm not from many other discussions and my extensive contributions - including a recent FA.)...so I re-re-reverted - and now he's put it all back again - a WP:3RR violation. Well, I'm at my wit's end.

Postscript: 12 hours after initially posting this request, I have just been made aware of this: Requests for comment/Wiarthurhu - I was completely unaware of this other effort to sanction User:Wiarthurhu for the trouble he's caused in other areas of Wikipedia. The problem obviously goes far beyond AMC Matador - but I would still prefer to have this specific problem mediated so we can fix up this article and move on. SteveBaker 11:48, 3 August 2006 (UTC)


 * ''What would you like to change about that?

I would like User:Wiarthurhu to take a Wikibreak to cool off - and to have someone other than the present protagonists take him quietly to one side and explain why this is wrong.
 * Would you prefer we work discreetly? If so, how can we reach you?

No need to work discreetly. I have nothing to hide.

Mediator response
I respectfully recuse myself as I have been involved with Wiarthurhu/Matador300 in the past and have no further action to contribute to any form of mediation involving him. Please see Requests for comment/Wiarthurhu and Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-07-05 F-14 Tomcat for further details. CQJ 18:34, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

I am taking this case and the others concerning Wiarthurhu off the new cases list as this doesn't particularlly seem to involve content needing mediation, but is a user conduct dispute. WP:RFAR may be a possibility, but it may be best to hold off on that for a bit while some more attempts are made. For now, I'm stalling a bit, but I will speak with Wiarthurhu since this is a clearly growing issue. Cowman109 Talk 06:16, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Wiarthurhu was indefinite blocked, so I guess this case is closed. Cowman109 Talk 06:45, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

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