Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-09-12 Rocky Steps screenshot

Mediation Case: 2006-09-12 Rocky Steps screenshot
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Request Information

 * Request made by: evrik 20:07, 12 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Where is the issue taking place?
 * Talk:Rocky Steps


 * Who's involved?
 * evrik and Awyong Jeffrey Mordecai Salleh


 * What's going on?
 * I had placed an image, a screenshot, as a placeholder on a talk page. I was looking for a free image of the Rocky Statue and was hoping someone might have a free one. There were two images Image:Rocky_Steps_screenshot_2.png and Image:Rocky_Steps_screenshot_3.png. I noticed that one had been tagged for deletion, but not the other. When I came back a few days later the image was gone.

I asked the admin responsible if he would restore it, and he has refused.


 * ''What would you like to change about that?
 * I would like to have to avoid using Deletion review and have the image restored.


 * Would you prefer we work discreetly? If so, how can we reach you?
 * n/a

Mediator response
I recommend the case be closed or postponed for the following reason(s):
 * User Awyong Jeffrey Mordecai Salleh is going on a long Wiki break until December.
 * Mediators issue non-binding decisions and CANNOT overrule admin decisions.
 * The admin involved has already refused to restore it.

In the meantime, the best hope would be to ask other admins for some other opinions. If they agree with the admin's decision, your very last resort for appeal would be the Arbitration Committee, although a RfC (request for comment) in that case would be more appropriate than a new ArbCom case. Jsw663 17:29, 20 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Case closed temporarily. Recommended evrik to seek an admin to help as there is nothing to mediate as long as the other party is not on wiki, and that at issue here is whether a photo should be kept - not entirely appropriate for mediation.  Jsw663 07:09, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Compromise offers
This section is for listing and discussing compromise offers.



Discussion

 * ''The following discussions are an archived discussion. Please do not modify it.

==Photo not orphaned == Could you please restore image:Rocky Steps screenshot 3.png. Despite the orphan tag, it was being used for discussion, and was not orphaned. --evrik 15:45, 6 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Which page links to this image? Also, if it's being linked only from a talk page (or any page not in the (Main) namespace), the image is considered orphaned. Awyong Jeffrey Mordecai Salleh 15:47, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

It was being used as a placeholder until we could get permission to post it or someone who could donate a free image. Deletion of the image is really uneccessary, and it could be left to let people know what we need. --evrik 16:31, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I still do not see the need to undelete the image. Awyong Jeffrey Mordecai Salleh 16:39, 6 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Well, you could do it simply out of courtesy, and to spread good will among your fellow wikipedians. Restoring the picture does no harm. --evrik 16:59, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
 * What am I to assume by your silence? --evrik 20:33, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
 * That the file will not be undeleted. Awyong Jeffrey Mordecai Salleh 23:36, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

This was from the talk page of Awyong Jeffrey Mordecai Salleh --evrik 20:11, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I would hope that before Awyong Jeffrey Mordecai Salleh goes on break, that he would at least look at this and reconsider. --evrik 17:42, 20 September 2006 (UTC)