Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-10-06 Football hooliganism in Turkey

Mediation Case: 2006-10-06 Football hooliganism in Turkey
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Request Information

 * Request made by: Waggers 09:26, 6 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Where is the issue taking place?
 * Mainly Football hooliganism although the dispute originated over the Galatasaray article about a year ago. The edit histories of both articles should make interesting reading, together with discussions on the talk pages of the articles and the users involved.


 * Who's involved?
 * The main dispute has been between User:Englishrose and User: Waya 5. I (Waggers) have been trying to mediate but frankly don't have the time and I believe User: Waya 5 sees me as biassed towards User:Englishrose, so a new, fresh, mediator is probably required.  Other users have been involved in editing the offending sections of both articles in the past, but don't seem to be active at the moment.


 * What's going on?
 * In two words, edit warring (including breaches of 3RR). Englishrose is trying to write a neutral account of the subject, including sources.  Sometimes the language he's used hasn't read as neutral, and Waya 5 has reacted by changing the article to reflect his personal views.  I have discussed the issue with both parties, and Englishrose has now composed a much better worded account in his user space (here), but Waya 5 reverts any changes (to the published article), usually without any discussion.


 * ''What would you like to change about that?
 * Sadly, I can see this one going all the way. I'd like the parties involved to discuss the matter and reach concensus, and for the result to be a well-balanced NPOV article (or section, to be precise).  But my initial optimism for such an outcome has diminished; sadly it seems to me now that the only way to achieve the desired result is for the matter to go to ArbCom and for Waya 5 to be banned from editing the article.


 * Would you prefer we work discreetly? If so, how can we reach you?
 * No, I think it's best that this is done out in the open so that the process is transparent and there can be no accusations of people clubbing together "behind the scenes". Please contact me on my talk page.

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