Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-10-18 Lostpedia

Request Information

 * Whats going on?

Hey guys, my issue is to do with the creation of an article for "Lostpedia". Let me explain: Lostpedia is a fansite for the TV show Lost, using the wiki format. The first time an article was created for it by someone unaffiliated with the site. Consequently, it was deleted, being branded as shameful advertisement (which I don't object to). On deletion review it was said that Lostpedia was not notable enough to justify an article. At the time, this was argued as there has been mention of the site in the Guardian newspaper (England), Sci-fi magazine website of the month, as well as other pieces of media. Anyway, there was nothing we could do than wait for greater notability which would justify an article. However, since then, comments in the talk page have been routinely deleted even when they remained within etiquette - and some feel this is a form of censorship.

Equally, when the page became unlocked recently, I added content which was much more objective. This time too I had notability due to the fact that Lostpedia had been mentioned on numerous occassions in the Lost Experience, an alternate reality game officially run by the makers of Lost and the ABC network. Thus, we felt considering other wikis allowed articles like Wookieepedia can only provide one citation of publicity, our press now meant we deserved an article. However, within two minutes of making the page it was marked as questionable notability, and then speedily deleted (despite my requesting for a discussion and using the "hangon" template). Again, the talk page with my plea was also removed.

Now we are in a position where the argument over notability has faded in my opinion, and being used now is "its already had a deletion review and it was endorsed". However, as I mentioned, the deletion review in question was on the old version of the article, and so was deleted due to shameless advertising. Thus, I feel the new version is a different case, but can't allow actual debate as I'm not allowed to show everyone the original content, which listed Lostpedia's official connections to the show.

All I ask is for an actual debate on the topic, instead of constant suppression by deleting content, or the endless circle of going to deletion review to hear there was a past decision made, then when asked about the differences between the contents told to take it up with the deletion review again.

Please could you advice me on what best to do? Thank you very much


 * Who's involved?

Myself and other users. One in particular, MatthewFenton, I fear is being biased as he was previously banned from Lostpedia for causing arguments. Now he is on Wikipedia, I think his influence is extremely unfair.


 * What would you like us to change about it?

Discuss with me where Lostpedia stands at the moment, considering all the facts given in an unbiased and new view.


 * Would you prefer we work discreetly?

No but I would prefer not to cause more arguments.


 * Note: Articles for deletion/Lostpedia and deletion review. Articles for deletion/LOST Wiki is also relevant.,  and  are, I guess, the same user.  This same request is at DRV, the article's Talk and sundry other locations.  The user has made no other contributions to the project other than to request undeletion of Lostpedia.  I suggest this is not a mediation job. Guy 14:39, 18 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Agree with Guy - I'll close the case... Addhoc 22:40, 18 October 2006 (UTC)