Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-11-29 ITWA

Mediation Case: 2006-11-29 ITWA
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Request Information

 * Request made by: Rklawton 18:31, 29 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Where is the issue taking place?
 * Thumb wrestling (at present)


 * Who's involved?
 * User:Slyder Pilot


 * What's going on?
 * Slyder Pilot is using his account to promote a bogus "professional league": International Thumb Wrestling Association.  This "association" consists of a one-person, personal website on Geocities.  An article about this "association" has been AfD'd.  The International Thumb Wrestling Association article has since been protected from recreation.  At present, Slyder Pilot insists on placing a link to this personal website in the Thumb wrestling article.  Given that this website is the sole product of an individual's imagination (a nice way of saying "hoax"), it's not encyclopedic, and it doesn't belong a legitimate article about the children's game.


 * I'm working through the standard dispute resolution steps:


 * 1) I've exchanged messages with Slyder Pilot over the summer about this.
 * 2) I've waited a few months to see if things might settle down.
 * 3) I've re-initiated a dialogue with Slyder Pilot - but without success, so I thought I'd try step #3 and see if mediation might help.


 * ''What would you like to change about that?
 * I would like to see the link/reference for the "ITWA" removed from the Thumb wrestling article and any other article that attempts to cast legitimacy on this bogus organization.


 * Would you prefer we work discreetly? If so, how can we reach you?
 * I believe all discussions about this topic should be open to all editors for review or comment. Rklawton 18:31, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Mediator response
OK I'll step in here and look things over. This is sort of an interesting dispute, and I have experience with these kinds of things. DMeyering *talk*
 * This case may be winding down now. Unless something happens again soon, I'll just say the issue worked itself out. Antimatter---talk--- 03:00, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
 * It's been two weeks. No reverts on the thumb wrestling page, no additions to the talk page or case discussion.  I'm gonna say, apprehensively, the mediation was successful.  Case closed! Antimatter---talk--- 17:27, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Compromise offers
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Discussion
January 22, 2007: User:Slyder Pilot has re-added the ITWA (Geocities) link to the Thumb wrestling article again. A policy summary follows: Rklawton 17:34, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
 * The ITWA itself violates WP:NFT (and was AfD'd from Wikipedia last year)
 * The link to the Geocities site fails External links
 * SP's editing of this article represents a Conflict of interest
 * SP immediately removed both discussion and warning from his talk page diff (generally considered a bad idea)

In spite of the conflict of interest and other points raised above and in the ITWA article's AfD, Slyder Pilot has re-added ITWA references to this article again. Given that he knows better than to introduce information into articles when a conflict of interest exists, these edits are clearly disruptive. Rklawton (talk) 16:13, 2 July 2008 (UTC)