Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-12-23 Maria Ozawa and CAJ

Mediation Case: Maria Ozawa and CAJ
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Request Information

 * Request made by: W4wan


 * Where is the issue taking place?

"Maria Ozawa" and "Christian Academy in Japan" wiki


 * Who's involved?

SiobhanHansa, Shiryu22, MightyAtom, some guest editors, (and me of course)


 * What's going on?

Update :

BDuke said "Adding "Maria Ozawa" to the CAJ article is clearly something that would be unacceptable to CAJ if it was not true that she went to the school?"

My response: Well said. Understood the point.

Action taken: Removed "Maria Ozawa" entry on "CAJ" wiki, and added "citation needed" tag on "Maria Ozawa" wiki.

...

Unable to arrive at consensus regarding whether Maria Ozawa should be included in CAJ notable graduates or not. a revert war has begun.

I (W4wan) was pleading that the revert made by SiobhanHansa to be stopped, or the other unverified need to be deleted along with Maria Ozawa.


 * Would you prefer we work discreetly? If so, how can we reach you?

I would prefer that you work publicly. The Wikipedia community should be aware of this.

Compromise offers
This section is for listing and discussing compromise offers.



Discussion
I'm going to find out where the discussion should take place, either here or on the page in dispute. --Mechcozmo 21:28, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm unclear why there is a mediator at all. I was unaware of any request for mediation until your post on the article talk page, W4wan has made no attempt to communicate concerns on the article talk pages, nor has s/he responded to the posts I have made on the talk page and s/he has misrepresented my position on the Maria Ozawa addition to the CAJ page.  I would prefer an attempt be made to simply discuss the addition on the article talk pages (as I had already started on the CAJ article).  My position has always been that this edit simply needs a reliable source.  As far as I am aware I have not suggested that Ozawa is not notable enough.   -- Siobhan Hansa 02:58, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you for replying. I guess I'll mark the case closed, then, pending a comment by W4wan.  From reading the case information, it seems hard make an absolute decision as to if a person is notable or not.  Different people, different thoughts.  If the same criteria used for including the other two alumni is applied to Maria Ozawa and finds her notable, then she should be included.  If the criteria show she is not notable, then she should not be included.  I'll leave it to the various editors of this page to work out what they think the criteria should be. --Mechcozmo 03:05, 28 December 2006 (UTC)